From jhogan at redhat.com Mon Jul 12 02:15:55 2004 From: jhogan at redhat.com (Jeremy Hogan) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:15:55 -0400 Subject: Fedora on redhat.com Message-ID: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> So we're finally giving Fedora significant prominence on redhat.com. The Fedora page will be a positioning paragraph much like: "Fedora is a Red Hat sponsored, community-developed..." blurb we usually use, but we'll be adding a small widget of links to resources. I thought it could link into the FAQs and Download section, but also to some of the tertiary sites (fedoralegacy, linuxquestions.org etc). What should those sites be? These would be unofficially official (whilst still being officially unofficial), so they should be 4 or 5 sites we're the most comfortable pointing folks at. --jeremy From byte at aeon.com.my Tue Jul 13 22:11:36 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:11:36 +0800 Subject: Fedora on redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1089756696.2668.141.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 10:15, Jeremy Hogan wrote: > So we're finally giving Fedora significant prominence on redhat.com. www.redhat.com ? > The Fedora page will be a positioning paragraph much like: > > "Fedora is a Red Hat sponsored, community-developed..." blurb we usually > use, but we'll be adding a small widget of links to resources. I thought > it could link into the FAQs and Download section, but also to some of > the tertiary sites (fedoralegacy, linuxquestions.org etc). Shouldn't the links be kept at the fedora.redhat.com site? And the new URL that points there should be used, rather than keeping a few links sitting on www.redhat.com itself ? > What should those sites be? These would be unofficially official (whilst > still being officially unofficial), so they should be 4 or 5 sites we're > the most comfortable pointing folks at. Fedora Legacy - www.fedoralegacy.org Fedora Unofficial FAQ - www.fedorafaq.org * FedoraNEWS.ORG - www.fedoranews.org FedoraForums - www.fedoraforums.org * - should we start taking the effort to getting the Fedora Docs project to organise the FAQ, i.e. we consolidate it to our main site at fedora.redhat.com ? Gives us better stature, works better for the project in general, and we'll have to do it eventually (even if its a few years down the line) as newbies will want to know where to get information ASAP - remember, throughout the install, they see links to "fedora.redhat.com" (or its new equivalent) Also, from a usability standpoint, a newbie might go, "what's a FAQ?". So we should try "Frequently Asked Questions" as a link on the main site (rather than unofficial FAQ)... -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From jhogan at redhat.com Tue Jul 13 22:37:40 2004 From: jhogan at redhat.com (Jeremy Hogan) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:37:40 -0400 Subject: Fedora on redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1089756696.2668.141.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> References: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089756696.2668.141.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <1089758260.2608.83.camel@dhcp63-232.rdu.redhat.com> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 18:11, Colin Charles wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 10:15, Jeremy Hogan wrote: > > So we're finally giving Fedora significant prominence on redhat.com. > > www.redhat.com ? Yep. Our site design is changing, and Fedora gets it's own upper level nav. That gives a mini-home page for fedora, that positions it and sends the user to fedora.redhat.com. > Shouldn't the links be kept at the fedora.redhat.com site? And the new > URL that points there should be used, rather than keeping a few links > sitting on www.redhat.com itself ? Maybe, except I have zero direct control over fedora.redhat.com, whereas a traffic request let's me update rh.com. Maybe instead of those sorts of sites, a widget box that deep links into FAQs, Downloads, and projects like the utility links in the upper right of fedora.redhat.com. > > > What should those sites be? These would be unofficially official (whilst > > still being officially unofficial), so they should be 4 or 5 sites we're > > the most comfortable pointing folks at. > > Fedora Legacy - www.fedoralegacy.org > Fedora Unofficial FAQ - www.fedorafaq.org * > FedoraNEWS.ORG - www.fedoranews.org > FedoraForums - www.fedoraforums.org > > * - should we start taking the effort to getting the Fedora Docs project > to organise the FAQ, i.e. we consolidate it to our main site at > fedora.redhat.com ? Yeah, whatever makes us most comfortable with pointing users there. > > Also, from a usability standpoint, a newbie might go, "what's a FAQ?". > So we should try "Frequently Asked Questions" as a link on the main site > (rather than unofficial FAQ)... Yeah, the links have space for text explaining them. --jeremy From byte at aeon.com.my Sat Jul 17 10:25:34 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:25:34 +0800 Subject: Fedora on redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1089758260.2608.83.camel@dhcp63-232.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089756696.2668.141.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> <1089758260.2608.83.camel@dhcp63-232.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1090059933.3704.76.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 06:37, Jeremy Hogan wrote: > > > So we're finally giving Fedora significant prominence on redhat.com. > > > > www.redhat.com ? > > Yep. Our site design is changing, and Fedora gets it's own upper level > nav. That gives a mini-home page for fedora, that positions it and sends > the user to fedora.redhat.com. OK, thats nice to know - when do we see a change? > > Shouldn't the links be kept at the fedora.redhat.com site? And the new > > URL that points there should be used, rather than keeping a few links > > sitting on www.redhat.com itself ? > > Maybe, except I have zero direct control over fedora.redhat.com, whereas > a traffic request let's me update rh.com. Maybe instead of those sorts > of sites, a widget box that deep links into FAQs, Downloads, and > projects like the utility links in the upper right of fedora.redhat.com. Shouldn't direct control be changing slowly? Isn't the process opening up? Widget box sounds good, definitely > > > What should those sites be? These would be unofficially official (whilst > > > still being officially unofficial), so they should be 4 or 5 sites we're > > > the most comfortable pointing folks at. > > > > Fedora Legacy - www.fedoralegacy.org > > Fedora Unofficial FAQ - www.fedorafaq.org * > > FedoraNEWS.ORG - www.fedoranews.org > > FedoraForums - www.fedoraforums.org > > > > * - should we start taking the effort to getting the Fedora Docs project > > to organise the FAQ, i.e. we consolidate it to our main site at > > fedora.redhat.com ? > > Yeah, whatever makes us most comfortable with pointing users there. So, its just you/me/Jack here at the moment... But the above links are what I'd personally recommend/vote for Not to forget fedora.us, since that's really Extras, no? *grin* > > Also, from a usability standpoint, a newbie might go, "what's a FAQ?". > > So we should try "Frequently Asked Questions" as a link on the main site > > (rather than unofficial FAQ)... > > Yeah, the links have space for text explaining them. Sweet -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From byte at aeon.com.my Sat Jul 31 18:38:03 2004 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 04:38:03 +1000 Subject: Fedora on redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1089758260.2608.83.camel@dhcp63-232.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089756696.2668.141.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> <1089758260.2608.83.camel@dhcp63-232.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1091299082.24634.37.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 08:37, Jeremy Hogan wrote: As a follow-up > > > So we're finally giving Fedora significant prominence on redhat.com. > > > > www.redhat.com ? > > Yep. Our site design is changing, and Fedora gets it's own upper level > nav. That gives a mini-home page for fedora, that positions it and sends > the user to fedora.redhat.com. >From the main www.redhat.com site, one can click on Fedora and it goes to http://www.redhat.com/fedora/ > Maybe, except I have zero direct control over fedora.redhat.com, whereas > a traffic request let's me update rh.com. Maybe instead of those sorts > of sites, a widget box that deep links into FAQs, Downloads, and > projects like the utility links in the upper right of fedora.redhat.com. Widget box is still missing (or doesn't exist yet) -- Colin Charles, byte at aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From jhogan at redhat.com Sat Jul 31 22:24:55 2004 From: jhogan at redhat.com (Jeremy Hogan) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:24:55 -0400 Subject: Fedora on redhat.com In-Reply-To: <1091299082.24634.37.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> References: <1089598555.4007.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1089756696.2668.141.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> <1089758260.2608.83.camel@dhcp63-232.rdu.redhat.com> <1091299082.24634.37.camel@hermione.aeon.com.my> Message-ID: <1091312695.3084.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 14:38, Colin Charles wrote: > Widget box is still missing (or doesn't exist yet) It turned out to be in the whitespace on the left, under "project resources" instead of a widget. --jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Mon Jul 19 18:00:32 2004 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:00:32 -0000 Subject: [Fwd: Fedora-Related Speaking Opportunity] Message-ID: <1090259980.5893.45.camel@bree.local.net> Just to make sure this doesn't get lost in the noise... Jeremy -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: William R. Lorenz Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core To: fedora-devel-list at redhat.com Cc: fedora-list at redhat.com Subject: Fedora-Related Speaking Opportunity Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Hi Everyone, I'm working as part of the Ohio LinuxFest team to coordinate this year's event. We drew people from all throughout the Mid-West last year: Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, West Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Illinois. We're planning an even bigger and better event for this year, with speaker representation from the The Apache Software Foundation, Novell, Samba, and more. We have confirmed talks from many authoritative speakers on many interesting topics. The event is free to attend (registration required so that we know how many to expect), and it will be held in Columbus, Ohio. Our website is at http://www.ohiolinux.org/, so you can check us out. I'd like to find a good speaker to represent the Fedora project, and I'm hoping I might find a talkative Fedora developer here who is interested in the opportunity. I'm open to many talk ideas, and if you happen to be an eager Fedora devloper willing to talk at the event, I'd love to help you secure a timeslot at the event this year if you can contact me off-list. I myself use and love Fedora, and so I'd like to help make it happen. In any case, I do hope I might hear from some of you. Tnx, in advance. -- _ __ __ ___ _| | William R. Lorenz \ V V / '_| | http://www.clevelandlug.net/ ; "Every revolution was \./\./|_| |_| first a thought in one man's mind." - Ralph Waldo Emerson