From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu Mar 1 00:53:13 2007 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:53:13 -0500 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Message-ID: <20070301005313.GA18930@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:35:01AM +0100, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: > 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use > Fedora. > I believe that this idea is good for two reason. [...] See: -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 06:20:36 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:20:36 +0100 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Message-ID: <45E670B4.9010500@fedoraproject.org> > 2)The second idea is this: > I want to create something like a dating site but for Fedora user. > Ok, I explain the idea about the dating site. I want to create a site where the user can meet other user in real time. > The site can give at all the Fedora user around the world to know other Fedora user.Can give the possibility to resolv the problem that the newbie can have and in this way is possible to see that bihind the Fedora Project there are real people,and not only a mail address. Hi Giuseppe, Generally Ambassadors meet together at the events, like FAD (Ambassadors only), FUDCONs etc... I think marketing contributors, that aren't ambassador, can join the FUDCONs and the other events. If you want to join an event see Linux Tag in Berlin that will be held in the last days of May, there many ambassador, contributors, etc... will organize conferences, a booth and other activity. And, for Italian guys, i hope to meet together at the end of July, or in the first days in September, with the participation of all Italian Fedora contributors (like translator, developer etc...) Is ok? Thank you Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 10:29:09 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:29:09 +0100 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com> On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: > 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use > Fedora. We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we should be focusing on that effort. I see it's an idea from ubuntu :) http://ubuntucounter.org/ Have a look at the post (+ replies) : "the danger of becoming a cargo cult" https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-February/msg00177.html Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From wolfy at nobugconsulting.ro Thu Mar 1 15:05:33 2007 From: wolfy at nobugconsulting.ro (Manuel Wolfshant) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:05:33 +0200 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <45E670B4.9010500@fedoraproject.org> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <45E670B4.9010500@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45E6EBBD.3080000@nobugconsulting.ro> Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> 2)The second idea is this: >> I want to create something like a dating site but for Fedora user. >> Ok, I explain the idea about the dating site. I want to create a site where the user can meet other user in real time. >> The site can give at all the Fedora user around the world to know other Fedora user.Can give the possibility to resolv the problem that the newbie can have and in this way is possible to see that bihind the Fedora Project there are real people,and not only a mail address. >> > > Hi Giuseppe, > > Generally Ambassadors meet together at the events, like FAD (Ambassadors > only), FUDCONs etc... I think marketing contributors, that aren't > ambassador, can join the FUDCONs and the other events. > > If you want to join an event see Linux Tag in Berlin that will be held > in the last days of May, there many ambassador, contributors, etc... > will organize conferences, a booth and other activity. > What language will be spoken at Linux Tag? Their site is in German only (at least I have not found anything else..). And I am afraid my German skills are a bit rusty.. From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 16:09:24 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:09:24 +0100 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <45E6EBBD.3080000@nobugconsulting.ro> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <45E670B4.9010500@fedoraproject.org> <45E6EBBD.3080000@nobugconsulting.ro> Message-ID: <45E6FAB4.6020505@fedoraproject.org> Manuel Wolfshant ha scritto: > Francesco Ugolini wrote: >>> 2)The second idea is this: >>> I want to create something like a dating site but for Fedora user. >>> Ok, I explain the idea about the dating site. I want to create a site >>> where the user can meet other user in real time. >>> The site can give at all the Fedora user around the world to know >>> other Fedora user.Can give the possibility to resolv the problem that >>> the newbie can have and in this way is possible to see that bihind >>> the Fedora Project there are real people,and not only a mail address. >>> >> >> Hi Giuseppe, >> >> Generally Ambassadors meet together at the events, like FAD (Ambassadors >> only), FUDCONs etc... I think marketing contributors, that aren't >> ambassador, can join the FUDCONs and the other events. >> >> If you want to join an event see Linux Tag in Berlin that will be held >> in the last days of May, there many ambassador, contributors, etc... >> will organize conferences, a booth and other activity. >> > What language will be spoken at Linux Tag? Their site is in German only > (at least I have not found anything else..). And I am afraid my German > skills are a bit rusty.. > It's a German related event, but many other Europeans join the event, it's just the biggest event in Europe ( bigger than FOSDEM, that is, at the end, an European one, but it's smaller than Linux Tag). Regards Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From agk at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 18:33:22 2007 From: agk at redhat.com (Alasdair G Kergon) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:33:22 +0000 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <45E6EBBD.3080000@nobugconsulting.ro> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <45E670B4.9010500@fedoraproject.org> <45E6EBBD.3080000@nobugconsulting.ro> Message-ID: <20070301183322.GB8409@agk.surrey.redhat.com> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:05:33PM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > Francesco Ugolini wrote: > What language will be spoken at Linux Tag? Their site is in German only > (at least I have not found anything else..). Click on the US flag on the top right for English translations where available: http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/index.php?id=358L=de&L=2 Alasdair -- agk at redhat.com From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 18:42:50 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:42:50 +0100 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <20070301183322.GB8409@agk.surrey.redhat.com> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <45E670B4.9010500@fedoraproject.org> <45E6EBBD.3080000@nobugconsulting.ro> <20070301183322.GB8409@agk.surrey.redhat.com> Message-ID: <45E71EAA.909@fedoraproject.org> Alasdair G Kergon ha scritto: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:05:33PM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: >> Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> What language will be spoken at Linux Tag? Their site is in German only >> (at least I have not found anything else..). > > Click on the US flag on the top right for English translations where > available: > http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/index.php?id=358L=de&L=2 > > Alasdair I don't write those words , eheheeheh. Francesco -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From kwade at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 18:55:51 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:55:51 -0800 Subject: Cross-post no more :) Message-ID: <1172775351.4651.451.camel@erato.phig.org> A recent consensus agrees there are separate topics for fedora-ambassadors-list and fedora-marketing-list. To keep messages on-topic, we need to stop cross-posting to the two lists. There is almost no topic that can be on both lists at the same time. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic#fedora-marketing-list If a post does not match the topic as defined there, it is off topic and needs to be posted somewhere else. 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Eventually, the project may change its package guidelines to only allow Free Software." http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/07/03/01/1646249.shtml?tid=107 Rahul From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Fri Mar 2 07:34:47 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:34:47 +0900 Subject: Some Idea....please reply References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003c01c75c9d$417b29c0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chitlesh GOORAH" To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Some Idea....please reply > On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: > >> 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that >> use >> Fedora. > > We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we > should be focusing on that effort. Do we really have noone in Australia? I've just added myself but I'm quite surprised. Regards Marc From byte at aeon.com.my Sat Mar 3 10:26:46 2007 From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:26:46 +1100 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <003c01c75c9d$417b29c0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com> <003c01c75c9d$417b29c0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> Message-ID: <45E94D66.7010904@aeon.com.my> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: >> On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: >> >>> 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people >>> that use >>> Fedora. >> >> We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we >> should be focusing on that effort. > > Do we really have noone in Australia? I've just added myself but I'm > quite surprised. Well, Frappr seems to require Flash that gnash-plugin can't handle, so might not be the best counter for Fedora users (since we believe in freedom, and the Flash player macromedia provide, is binary only, and worse, i386 only) -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 4 07:37:12 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:07:12 +0530 Subject: Fedora 7 KVM Virtualization How-To Message-ID: <45EA7728.1030109@fedoraproject.org> Hi "When it comes to the virtualization possibilities with Fedora 7, developers have hit the head on the nail. The virt-manager and libvirt improvements to allow for QEMU and KVM are phenomenal! We have truly been blown away by the integration of QEMU/KVM in Fedora 7, and are very excited to see how everything will come together in time for its May release. Fedora 7 has the best possibilities for KVM virtualization that we have seen from all Linux distributions to date. We had run into no problems during the virtualization process and are extremely pleased with what we had seen today." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=656&num=8 Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 4 11:06:25 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:36:25 +0530 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <003c01c75c9d$417b29c0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com> <003c01c75c9d$417b29c0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> Message-ID: <45EAA831.9010708@fedoraproject.org> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chitlesh GOORAH" > > To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" > > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: Some Idea....please reply > > >> On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: >> >>> 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people >>> that use >>> Fedora. >> >> We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we >> should be focusing on that effort. > > Do we really have noone in Australia? I've just added myself but I'm > quite surprised. We do have many people in Australia but frappr as a group isnt attractive to many. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 4 11:28:05 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:58:05 +0530 Subject: Build a Fedora Live CD Message-ID: <45EAAD45.3000404@fedoraproject.org> Hi "Though Fedora Linux? is a popular and mature Linux distribution, and many people have created Live CD distributions based on Fedora, the Fedora project itself didn't released its first official Live CD until December 2006. Learn how to build your own custom and easy-to-use Live CDs using a rewrite of Pilgrim, the Fedora Live CD creation tool." http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fedora-livecd/index.html Rahul From nihedmm at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 11:13:32 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:13:32 +0100 Subject: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <45EAA831.9010708@fedoraproject.org> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com> <003c01c75c9d$417b29c0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <45EAA831.9010708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703040313v49749f81v6761a43e69fd9714@mail.gmail.com> +1 for the first idea -1 for the second because we have event for this. 2007/3/4, Rahul Sundaram : > > Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chitlesh GOORAH" > > > > To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" > > > > Cc: > > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:29 PM > > Subject: Re: Some Idea....please reply > > > > > >> On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: > >> > >>> 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people > >>> that use > >>> Fedora. > >> > >> We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we > >> should be focusing on that effort. > > > > Do we really have noone in Australia? I've just added myself but I'm > > quite surprised. > > We do have many people in Australia but frappr as a group isnt > attractive to many. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 4 20:23:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:53:45 +0530 Subject: FOSDEM AIGLX talk Message-ID: <45EB2AD1.8010702@fedoraproject.org> Hi Kristian is the main guy behind AIGLX FYI http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/speakers/kristian+hoegsberg http://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/FOSDEM/2007/FOSDEM2007-AIGLX.ogg Rahul From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Mar 5 08:41:57 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:41:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: FOSDEM AIGLX talk In-Reply-To: <45EB2AD1.8010702@fedoraproject.org> References: <45EB2AD1.8010702@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6385.192.54.193.51.1173084117.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Dim 4 mars 2007 21:23, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Hi > > Kristian is the main guy behind AIGLX FYI > > http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/speakers/kristian+hoegsberg > > http://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/FOSDEM/2007/FOSDEM2007-AIGLX.ogg sound feels "accelerated" in mplayer and totem (rawhide). Does it play correctly on previous Fedora releases ? (and mplayer crashes if you keep going forward till the end of the file) -- Nicolas Mailhot From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 15:58:01 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:28:01 +0530 Subject: FOSDEM AIGLX talk In-Reply-To: <6385.192.54.193.51.1173084117.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <45EB2AD1.8010702@fedoraproject.org> <6385.192.54.193.51.1173084117.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <45EC3E09.2040605@fedoraproject.org> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Dim 4 mars 2007 21:23, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : >> Hi >> >> Kristian is the main guy behind AIGLX FYI >> >> http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/speakers/kristian+hoegsberg >> >> http://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/FOSDEM/2007/FOSDEM2007-AIGLX.ogg > > sound feels "accelerated" in mplayer and totem (rawhide). Does it play > correctly on previous Fedora releases ? > (and mplayer crashes if you keep going forward till the end of the file) This seems completely unrelated to what I posted. Mplayer is not in Fedora repository. Totem does work fine in all the current Fedora releases. If you want to discuss issues in development, post to fedora-test list instead. Rahul From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Mar 5 19:59:17 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:59:17 -0300 Subject: Fedora Message-ID: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Guys! Read this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237 ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7HaEPg3HAC1vlg4RAsskAKC1Z/IrrMezxF7IGxDrZi8Ee6zdjwCglj42 y5joYSTrXwb2ctsMPtEyaD8= =FW+9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon Mar 5 19:57:43 2007 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora In-Reply-To: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> References: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <20070305195743.GA8075@jadzia.bu.edu> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:59:17PM -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > Hi Guys! > Read this: > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237 Or, really, really, really, don't. (It's the ESR "hey everybody look at me" letter again.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From robert at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 21:00:53 2007 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:00:53 +0100 Subject: Self introduction about Robert Scheck Message-ID: <20070305210053.GA10073@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Hello folks, my name is Scheck, Robert Scheck. Currently, I'm 21 years old and I'm from Germany. Maybe you know my name from Bugzilla reports after updating my development system to Fedora Core Development, anciently called Rawhide. I'm also writing some e-mails from time to time to fedora-devel-list and fedora-extras-list. Professionally, I'm a programmer at Linux and ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) environments working for a young and tiny IT company called ETES GmbH. Some time before I did my apprenticeship to IT specialist field systems integration at Hewlett-Packard Germany as result of my personal interest in computers started in December 1998. And in July 2004, I did my certification as Red Hat Certified Technician - during my apprenticeship, but paid by me! ;-) As you surely recognized, I'm more technical related, thus I'm maintainer for 10 packages in Fedora Extras. Oh, but I'm not a greenhorn regarding the representation of company, projects and products: At the CeBIT 2003 in Hannover/Germany I was presenting "wireless clinic" and mobile solutions for on-site technicians for HP - but on the Microsoft booth while listening and watching the Microsoft Windows 2003 Server clips and announcements. It's no joke, even it maybe sounds funny for a Linux guy. Of course I did the same at the HP booth when switching with colleagues from there... When thinking about this, it's a good time to repent at the LinuxTag 2007 in Berlin/Germany which is my initial goal as Fedora Ambassador. At first, I'll mainly support Gerold Kassube and Florian Brand until things for the days are clarified. Finally I want to say thanks to Gerold, who encouraged me to walk this way and to get an ambassador. Greetings, Robert From mstuff at read.org.nz Mon Mar 5 22:15:31 2007 From: mstuff at read.org.nz (Morgan Read) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:15:31 +1300 Subject: Re repo clean-up Message-ID: <45EC9683.6070106@read.org.nz> Hello Folks Following up an article in "fedoranews", I would like to strongly endorse Fedora fully embracing the freedom it talks about. I've been a little concerned recently why, despite Max Spevik's strong assertion (see my footer) Fedora doesn't seem to be recognised more fully as a free distribution. The article and links in "fedoranews" (http://fedoranews.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekly_News_Issue_79#Linux.com:_Fedora_cleans_its_repositories.2C_considers_move_to_Free_Software) go a long way to clarifying up my concern. And, I also believe in given credit where credit is due. Regards, Morgan. -- Morgan Read NEW ZEALAND fedora: Freedom Forever! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview "By choosing not to ship any proprietary or binary drivers, Fedora does differ from other distributions. ..." Quote: Max Spevik http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/17/177220 RMS on Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Marc From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Mar 7 02:16:42 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:16:42 +0900 Subject: Fedora In-Reply-To: <1173200270.3873.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> <1173200270.3873.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <20070307111642.0f80d306@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:57:50 +0900 Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:59 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi Guys! > > > > Read this: > > > > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237 > > > Sorry for the double post but this is a partial copy of his email that link you showed. The 'full' details of all the emails to the fedora-devel list can be found linked to. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01006.html He basically had a bee in his bonnet and it went from there. It seems more of a rant than anything. I'm truly disappointed in him not actually helping to fix the problems but just throwing his hands up in the air and then going off the deep end. Anyway enough out of me you have the link read the emails and you will have to form your own opinion. Cheers, Marc Wiriadisastra From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 11:16:30 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:46:30 +0530 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs Message-ID: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> Hi In just 133 days after the Fedora Core 6 release, we have crossed over 2 million installations. This is going hot! More details at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics. More interesting metrics on the hardware users install Fedora on is available at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 11:29:40 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:59:40 +0530 Subject: Fedora In-Reply-To: <1173200270.3873.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> References: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> <1173200270.3873.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> Message-ID: <45EEA224.6000109@fedoraproject.org> Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:59 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Guys! >> >> Read this: >> >> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237 >> > > I believe Rahul posted that or something along those lines with a pretty > concise article link Yes. If you want more fun. http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/the-redhat-package-mangler Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 11:56:51 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:26:51 +0530 Subject: DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 192 on Fedora Message-ID: <45EEA883.70608@fedoraproject.org> Hi " As such, it looks like the most interesting delivery of the upcoming release season will be coming from the Fedora project. The developers have recently extended their testing cycle by a whole month to include a fourth test release and the extent of the new features and improvements in Fedora 7 seems lengthier than those in Ubuntu or Mandriva. The merging of Core and Extras packages into one massive software repository, dramatic improvements in boot speeds as well as the yum package management system, and a new single-CD method of installing Fedora from a live CD are all excellent improvements. While some of these features have been available in other distributions, it's nice to see that the Fedora development team is willing to learn and adopt successful technologies developed elsewhere. That, combined with their own innovations, should guarantee a highly interesting Fedora 7 in May this year" http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070305 Rahul From gerold at lugd.org Wed Mar 7 12:32:19 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:32:19 +0100 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs In-Reply-To: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> References: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> To be honest ... this counting is not real! This can only be a "minimum" of used Systems, because of: how many users (like me) have a bunch of machines in their LAN and are using a own mirror?! I for myself have five machines in my LAN and these are definitly NOT counted ... MAYBE, maybe ... we should somehow create a "counting page" with registered user with a "value" for registration ... I for myself believe and think this can help us to get better numbers and knowledge about the existing and Fedora using Machines and Users ... Just my five cents Regards Gerold Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 16:46 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > Hi > > In just 133 days after the Fedora Core 6 release, we have crossed over 2 > million installations. This is going hot! > > More details at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics. More > interesting metrics on the hardware users install Fedora on is available > at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats > > Rahul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From mikko.kivinen at scenegroup.fi Wed Mar 7 12:39:52 2007 From: mikko.kivinen at scenegroup.fi (Mikko Kivinen) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:39:52 +0200 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs In-Reply-To: <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <45EEB298.1000208@scenegroup.fi> Good point Gerold. I'd like to add that there are also numerous dedicated server & VPS providers who offer Fedora to their clients and Im sure these are not counted :) Best regards, Mikko Kivinen P.S. It's my first message on the list, been following for some while and I will try to join the discussions more from now on :) Gerold Kassube wrote: > To be honest ... > > this counting is not real! > This can only be a "minimum" of used Systems, because of: > > how many users (like me) have a bunch of machines in their LAN and are > using a own mirror?! I for myself have five machines in my LAN and these > are definitly NOT counted ... > > MAYBE, maybe ... > > we should somehow create a "counting page" with registered user with a > "value" for registration ... > > I for myself believe and think this can help us to get better numbers > and knowledge about the existing and Fedora using Machines and Users ... > > Just my five cents > > Regards > > Gerold > > > Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 16:46 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > >> Hi >> >> In just 133 days after the Fedora Core 6 release, we have crossed over 2 >> million installations. This is going hot! >> >> More details at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics. More >> interesting metrics on the hardware users install Fedora on is available >> at http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats >> >> Rahul >> > > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 12:50:24 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:20:24 +0530 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs In-Reply-To: <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <45EEB510.8000008@fedoraproject.org> Gerold Kassube wrote: > To be honest ... > > this counting is not real! > This can only be a "minimum" of used Systems, because of: > > how many users (like me) have a bunch of machines in their LAN and are > using a own mirror?! I for myself have five machines in my LAN and these > are definitly NOT counted ... This is already explained clearly in statistics page I referred to. Do read that first. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 12:51:35 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:21:35 +0530 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs In-Reply-To: <45EEB298.1000208@scenegroup.fi> References: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <45EEB298.1000208@scenegroup.fi> Message-ID: <45EEB557.7050600@fedoraproject.org> Mikko Kivinen wrote: > Good point Gerold. I'd like to add that there are also numerous > dedicated server & VPS providers who offer Fedora to their clients and > Im sure these are not counted :) > Regardless of who provide the bits, as long as the use the same public mirror list that we use in Yum, they will be counted. Rahul From gerold at lugd.org Wed Mar 7 13:13:48 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:13:48 +0100 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs In-Reply-To: <45EEB557.7050600@fedoraproject.org> References: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <45EEB298.1000208@scenegroup.fi> <45EEB557.7050600@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1173273228.3618.21.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> ok, ... but there is only ONE machine which comes and take the mirror. The Machines in my LAN are pointed to my own mirror in the LAN and you cann't count them, because they are not updating by a mirror in the Internet ... as far as I know, a adress as 192.168.1.25 with netmask 255.255.255.0 is not routed or seen in the internet :-) But you're also right with the mail before ... the next time I write a e-mail I have to red first (and better) the words you wrote like this >This is already explained clearly in statistics page I >referred to. Do read that first. So enjoy the day, night or morning Regards Gerold RahulAm Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 18:21 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > Mikko Kivinen wrote: > > Good point Gerold. I'd like to add that there are also numerous > > dedicated server & VPS providers who offer Fedora to their clients and > > Im sure these are not counted :) > > > > Regardless of who provide the bits, as long as the use the same public > mirror list that we use in Yum, they will be counted. > > Rahul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does it play > > correctly on previous Fedora releases ? > > (and mplayer crashes if you keep going forward till the end of the file) > > This seems completely unrelated to what I posted. Mplayer is not in > Fedora repository. Totem does work fine in all the current Fedora > releases. If you want to discuss issues in development, post to > fedora-test list instead. I think he was asking if there is a problem with the OGG file or his player. Since I'm not having any problems with the audio (totem-mozilla-player running in Firefox, FC 6 updated), then I think the problem is on your system. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 23:51:35 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 05:21:35 +0530 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Linux Eclipses 2M User Mark Message-ID: <45EF5007.6020000@fedoraproject.org> Hi "Red Hat's Fedora Core 6 Linux distribution has reached another big milestone, racking up two million installed users barely two months after tallying 1 million installed users." http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3663951 Rahul From igorm5 at vip.hr Thu Mar 8 08:10:36 2007 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:10:36 +0100 Subject: DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 192 on Fedora In-Reply-To: <45EEA883.70608@fedoraproject.org> References: <45EEA883.70608@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45EFC4FC.4090806@vip.hr> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > " As such, it looks like the most interesting delivery of the upcoming > release season will be coming from the Fedora project. The developers > have recently extended their testing cycle by a whole month to include a > fourth test release and the extent of the new features and improvements > in Fedora 7 seems lengthier than those in Ubuntu or Mandriva. The > merging of Core and Extras packages into one massive software > repository, dramatic improvements in boot speeds as well as the yum > package management system, I can agree to all of that, except the Yum thing. I haven't noticed some Yum speed improvement on my Rawhide system I update every day. Yum is still very very slow. SmartPM is much faster, but still more buggy than Yum :-/ -- Igor Jagec From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Thu Mar 8 09:12:39 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:12:39 -0600 Subject: DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 192 on Fedora In-Reply-To: <45EFC4FC.4090806@vip.hr> References: <45EEA883.70608@fedoraproject.org> <45EFC4FC.4090806@vip.hr> Message-ID: <45EFD387.40509@prodigy.net.mx> Igor Jagec escribi?: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >> Hi >> " As such, it looks like the most interesting delivery of the upcoming >> release season will be coming from the Fedora project. The developers >> have recently extended their testing cycle by a whole month to include a >> fourth test release and the extent of the new features and improvements >> in Fedora 7 seems lengthier than those in Ubuntu or Mandriva. The >> merging of Core and Extras packages into one massive software >> repository, dramatic improvements in boot speeds as well as the yum >> package management system, >> > > I can agree to all of that, except the Yum thing. I haven't noticed some > Yum speed improvement on my Rawhide system I update every day. Yum is > still very very slow. SmartPM is much faster, but still more buggy than > Yum :-/ > > The way I see it, better leave Yum mature than tamper with yet-another-alternative. The main advantage apt has over yum is that it has been in development way longer than yum, and as such lots of bugs have already been fixed. I'd say that the Yum team should focus on the most prominent bugs in the PM before going for speed optimizations. The worst of the problems right now (IMO) are the ones regarding to: * Whole transaction stalled when encountering a dependency problem which cannot be resolved. The consensus amongst users seems to be that the program should be able to continue with which packages it can update, and inform (whether a message on the screen or an entry in the log) of those packages which couldn't be updated/installed and the reasons. * Problems managing the repositories. It seems that a lot of users have encountered this problem at one point or another. Yum will refuse to update the packages' list giving a failed checksum error, and entering into maddened loop fetching the primary.xml.gz from every single mirror. The only way I've been able to workaround this problem is by cleaning the cache. So either Yum should automatically clean the cache upon transaction end or be done programmatically to avoid this issue, or fix it in the given case. The problem is that for users who have no idea what may be happening, Pirut and Pup simply don't respond, and there is no way to find out what's going on other than running Yum from the command line. * Another "problem" many other users complain about is that from time to time (and even with the "fastestmirror" plug-in installed) yum will connect to *extremely* slow mirrors (we're talking about mirrors from which data is fetched @1-2Kb/s), from which large updates (like OOo) are a nightmare to even think about. I'm not sure why some times this happens, I've only encountered this "problem" a couple of times my self (in all the time I've been using Fedora, which is from Yarrow). * Also the issue of Yum being unable to read the local package list, which (as the other problems) stalls Yum. This is more dramatic (just as the mirror primary.xml.gz problem, and mirror looping) when yumupdatesd is running, because the instance of yumupdatesd renders yum unusable (Pirut, Pup and yum CLI included) unless the process is stopped. This is particularly problematic for users who may not have a clue what's going on, nor how to see what's happening or know how to fix it. In most cases running "yum clean all" is enough, though I've seen some cases where manual download of an updated yum package is required (especially in new FC5 installations, I've seen this thus far in 6 new FC5 installations, where yum stalls while trying to run 'yum update'). From what I see in Bugzilla pretty much all of these problems have been reported in one way or another, and for some of these issues, there doesn't seem to be a clear reason why it even happens (at least I don't have the slightest idea). However the point of yum and the relevance of YUM for the distribution, is of extreme relevance and importance, as (I'd be willing to say) it is if not *the* most, one of the _most_ *important* pieces of software in the distribution, and the one new users have the most problems with. This renders proper Yum operation *critical* for Fedora. It's worked fine until now, and it should only improve and squash whatever bugs remain, then focus on the speed issue. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 8 13:30:13 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:00:13 +0530 Subject: DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 192 on Fedora In-Reply-To: <45EFC4FC.4090806@vip.hr> References: <45EEA883.70608@fedoraproject.org> <45EFC4FC.4090806@vip.hr> Message-ID: <45F00FE5.8010906@fedoraproject.org> Igor Jagec wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Hi >> " As such, it looks like the most interesting delivery of the upcoming >> release season will be coming from the Fedora project. The developers >> have recently extended their testing cycle by a whole month to include a >> fourth test release and the extent of the new features and improvements >> in Fedora 7 seems lengthier than those in Ubuntu or Mandriva. The >> merging of Core and Extras packages into one massive software >> repository, dramatic improvements in boot speeds as well as the yum >> package management system, > > I can agree to all of that, except the Yum thing. I haven't noticed some > Yum speed improvement on my Rawhide system I update every day. Yum is > still very very slow. SmartPM is much faster, but still more buggy than > Yum :-/ The comments are regarding the plans. Not what exists right now in Fedora development. Rahul From mackay3 at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 20:17:07 2007 From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:17:07 -0600 Subject: 2 Million Fedora Core 6 installs In-Reply-To: <1173273228.3618.21.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <45EE9F0E.2020607@fedoraproject.org> <1173270739.3618.15.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <45EEB298.1000208@scenegroup.fi> <45EEB557.7050600@fedoraproject.org> <1173273228.3618.21.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703081217w12decddi9252757a1451c83e@mail.gmail.com> At least the install numers are not bloated up. On 3/7/07, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > ok, ... > but there is only ONE machine which comes and take the mirror. The > Machines in my LAN are pointed to my own mirror in the LAN and you > cann't count them, because they are not updating by a mirror in the > Internet ... > > as far as I know, a adress as 192.168.1.25 with netmask 255.255.255.0 is > not routed or seen in the internet :-) > > But you're also right with the mail before ... > the next time I write a e-mail I have to red first (and better) the > words you wrote like this > > >This is already explained clearly in statistics page I > >referred to. Do read that first. > > So enjoy the day, night or morning > > Regards > > Gerold > > > > RahulAm Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 18:21 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > > Mikko Kivinen wrote: > > > Good point Gerold. 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Old ones aren't uptodate ! # Any ambassador who wants produce swag can use a (already owned) Fedora id at santafetex - JoergSimon # LinuxTagBerlin: JoergSimon can produce sails with lightmetall stands but it will cost. JoergSimon will propose a price next week. # Executive will possess accountdata and id in shops which will be useful to produce swags or dvds (proposed by JoergSimon) # ThomasCanniot - well if you are too create a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there are no tax at all normally (or at least in france) the account(proposed by JoergSimon) must be at the name of someone. And this person, whoever it may be, can take the money and go away. Even if it is someone we can have some trust in today. Moreover, if this person happens to die for example accidently or has financial problems, banks can take the money to reimbursed its debt # Mar 7-8, 2007 - Berne, Switzerland OpenExpo 2007 GeroldKassube: small, independant event # Mar 16-17, 2007Nantes, France - Linux Party XI ArmelKermorvant was absent ! No updates on this event yet. # Mar 22-23, 2007 Dakshh 2007 http://dakshh.org SusmitShannigrahi was absent! No updates on this event yet. # March 24 2007 ISEIT Install Fest GuillermoGomez was absent! No updates on this event yet. # March, 2007 Open Source in Administration and Education March, 2007 PawelSadowski was absent! Pawel has some exams # April 11, 2007 IU LinuxFest JeremyGaddis didn't respond! No updates on this event yet. # April 28, 2007 Festival Latinoamericano de Instalaci?n de Software Libre PERU HernanPachas was absent! No updates on this event yet. # April 28, 2007 FLISOL 2007 Venezuela GuillermoGomez WilmerJaramillo WalterCervini were absent! No updates on this event yet. # May 30-Jun 2, 2007 Berlin, Germany LinuxTag Berlin 2007 GeroldKassube: from todays perspective it will have also more success to Fedora as the basicaly planed event FOSDEM because we will try to have a big event at LT with a install party, Fedora will organize - a troubleshooting contest - a Fudcon - the global launch of F7 (directly with a dedicated mirror on LT) - a booth party - and last but not least we will have Max, spot and MikeMcGrath at the booth, at the FUDCon and in a special workshop with Opensuse [we will have also a dedicated "team" which meets end of march to prepare all these things in Karlsruhe the Team which prepares LT is done by: AndreasRau, ClausReheis, FlorianBrand, JensKuehnel, ChitleshGoorah, JoergSimon and me Claus is doing a special kind of massage for signed Attendees of the LT for a Fedora Donation twice a day Thanks FrancescoUgolini for chairing that meeting. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From kwade at redhat.com Fri Mar 9 22:24:18 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:24:18 -0800 Subject: talking points for Fedora 7 release announcement Message-ID: <1173479058.3935.277.camel@erato.phig.org> We are going to try something new and exciting for the Fedora 7 release announcement that is traditionally written in only in English. The plan is for us to write up a list of "talking points" by collaborating on fedora-marketing-list (under this thread), and on the Wiki[1]. Local country/region teams then write up their own announcement, following a simple process that includes vetting the quality of the content. The fedora-fr.org team did this last release on their own, and it had a good impact. By formalizing it, we make it easier for other teams to follow suit, and we ensure that the message quality and contents are similar. The plan is to have Ambassadors lead the effort but work closely with the language-specific translation (L10N) teams. This is a good blend of marketing and content experience. Here is the announcement/RFC to Fedora Ambassadors sent a few weeks ago: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-February/msg00314.html Here is the page where the work is being done: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ReleaseAnnouncements [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ReleaseAnnouncements/TalkingPoints According to the initial schedule, the first draft of the talking points is 22 March, following feature freeze. Let's get started! - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I encourage people to vote by March 23rd. Hopefully there will be a high number of votes for Fedora and/or RHEL depending on what people think is the better choice for Dell to ship. Getting support from a big name hardware vendor for Fedora or even a Fedora-based distribution such as RHEL would be really cool for Fedora. Feel free to forward this on to others. [1] http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Wed Mar 14 07:37:47 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:37:47 +0900 Subject: Dell Linux Survey has Fedora as an option References: <45F74D3B.2020807@redhat.com> Message-ID: <002601c7660b$ab21f030$0201a8c0@strikeforce> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Aillon" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Dell Linux Survey has Fedora as an option > Just a note that Fedora is listed on Dell's Linux Survey[1] as an option > for a potential OS to be preinstalled on future Dell hardware. I > encourage people to vote by March 23rd. Hopefully there will be a high > number of votes for Fedora and/or RHEL depending on what people think is > the better choice for Dell to ship. Getting support from a big name > hardware vendor for Fedora or even a Fedora-based distribution such as > RHEL would be really cool for Fedora. > > Feel free to forward this on to others. > > > [1] http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey > > Reading the comments from the posts below is a bit disheartening. http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/03/13/7985.aspx#comments It seems that a lot of people's perception of Fedora is that of an unstable server centred OS which to me seems contradictory to what it is. We have a lot of work to do. Regards, Marc From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 08:53:26 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno3) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:53:26 +0100 Subject: Dell Linux Survey has Fedora as an option In-Reply-To: <002601c7660b$ab21f030$0201a8c0@strikeforce> References: <45F74D3B.2020807@redhat.com> <002601c7660b$ab21f030$0201a8c0@strikeforce> Message-ID: <1173862408.2685.27.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Indeed, tiresome to see all the fanboys trying to impose what they feel is "the best thing" as the standard for the yet-to-see Dell preloaded Linux distro. Sure, Fedora had and continues to have (minor) bugs, just like any distro, but I can't help thinking that much of the anti-Fedora prejudice is pure hearsay. Have the Fedora-bashers ever used it? In the end, to a lot of people it doesn't matter what Dell preloads because they will install their own favourite distribution instead. Yet much is, theoretically, at stake here. If people, especially those new to Linux, try it out and buy such a Dell machine, and they like what they see, they won't uninstall it. Anyway, we all know it will be either Suse or Ubuntu, unless Red Hat is going to subsidise Dell a little, which I don't think is their business model. (?) If Dell preloads Ubuntu, it will be blob time soon. What has the Linux/FOSS world gained then? herman Op wo, 14-03-2007 te 16:37 +0900, schreef Marc Wiriadisastra: > > > Reading the comments from the posts below is a bit disheartening. > http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/03/13/7985.aspx#comments > > It seems that a lot of people's perception of Fedora is that of an unstable > server centred OS which to me seems contradictory to what it is. > > We have a lot of work to do. > > > Regards, > > > Marc > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 14 10:04:49 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:34:49 +0530 Subject: Dell Linux Survey has Fedora as an option In-Reply-To: <1173862408.2685.27.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> References: <45F74D3B.2020807@redhat.com> <002601c7660b$ab21f030$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <1173862408.2685.27.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Message-ID: <45F7C8C1.10902@fedoraproject.org> hymno3 wrote: > Indeed, tiresome to see all the fanboys trying to impose what they feel > is "the best thing" as the standard for the yet-to-see Dell preloaded > Linux distro. The nature of the survey almost guarantees that. It's very interesting to see Fedora as one of the three choices which is based on the earlier ideastorm user requests. Regardless of some of the comments Fedora remains very much relevant to a lot of folks. > In the end, to a lot of people it doesn't matter what Dell preloads > because they will install their own favourite distribution instead. Yet > much is, theoretically, at stake here. If people, especially those new > to Linux, try it out and buy such a Dell machine, and they like what > they see, they won't uninstall it. Yes and perhaps more importantly if Fedora happens to be preloaded you can move over to anything you want without being struck on binary blobs. > Anyway, we all know it will be either Suse or Ubuntu, unless Red Hat is > going to subsidise Dell a little, which I don't think is their business > model. (?) If you are talking about Fedora then subsidising on a Free software distribution doesn't make much sense. For OEM systems all vendors are willing to cut down rates to get better volumes. Rahul From michel.salim at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 19:14:20 2007 From: michel.salim at gmail.com (Michel Salim) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:14:20 -0400 Subject: Dell Linux Survey has Fedora as an option In-Reply-To: <1173862408.2685.27.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> References: <45F74D3B.2020807@redhat.com> <002601c7660b$ab21f030$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <1173862408.2685.27.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Message-ID: <883cfe6d0703141214q1a0d194fp30cfa06369e7202f@mail.gmail.com> 2007/3/14, hymno3 : > Indeed, tiresome to see all the fanboys trying to impose what they feel > is "the best thing" as the standard for the yet-to-see Dell preloaded > Linux distro. > It is rather disheartening. Linux distributions are (mostly) cooperating with each other, but some of the users are definitely doing each other more harm than taking away from Microsoft. > Sure, Fedora had and continues to have (minor) bugs, just like any > distro, but I can't help thinking that much of the anti-Fedora prejudice > is pure hearsay. Have the Fedora-bashers ever used it? > Most of them, probably not. There's the fantasyland of Red Hat being the next Microsoft (this dates back to even before RHEL's launch). > In the end, to a lot of people it doesn't matter what Dell preloads > because they will install their own favourite distribution instead. Yet > much is, theoretically, at stake here. If people, especially those new > to Linux, try it out and buy such a Dell machine, and they like what > they see, they won't uninstall it. > > Anyway, we all know it will be either Suse or Ubuntu, unless Red Hat is > going to subsidise Dell a little, which I don't think is their business > model. (?) > > If Dell preloads Ubuntu, it will be blob time soon. What has the > Linux/FOSS world gained then? > I commented on the blog, advocating that making Linux drivers available is more important than what distribution is shipped by default. Considering Dell just switched their supported Linux configuration to SLES/D, I do agree with you that they'd probably go with either SuSE or Ubuntu .. hopefully, if it's the former it's openSUSE (no silly Microsoft extortion money), and if it's the latter, we'll still get free drivers. Dell's computers can normally be configured to use components with free drivers (e.g. for wireless, you can choose between Dell Wireless and Intel 3945 -- the latter is *almost* free; for graphics you can choose b/w Intel and nVidia), so the only two things we need is 1) Linux certification: the hardware works without non-FOSS drivers 2) BIOS updates, etc. are released in a way that they can be applied without Windows onboard I made these points on the blog; please add anything else you could think of. -- Michel Salim http://hircus.wordpress.com/ From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Mar 14 21:40:08 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:40:08 +0100 Subject: Dell Linux Survey has Fedora as an option In-Reply-To: <883cfe6d0703141214q1a0d194fp30cfa06369e7202f@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F74D3B.2020807@redhat.com> <002601c7660b$ab21f030$0201a8c0@strikeforce> <1173862408.2685.27.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <883cfe6d0703141214q1a0d194fp30cfa06369e7202f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1173908408.22102.26.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 ? 15:14 -0400, Michel Salim a ?crit : > 2007/3/14, hymno3 : > > Indeed, tiresome to see all the fanboys trying to impose what they feel > > is "the best thing" as the standard for the yet-to-see Dell preloaded > > Linux distro. > > > It is rather disheartening. Linux distributions are (mostly) > cooperating with each other, but some of the users are definitely > doing each other more harm than taking away from Microsoft. > > > Sure, Fedora had and continues to have (minor) bugs, just like any > > distro, but I can't help thinking that much of the anti-Fedora prejudice > > is pure hearsay. Have the Fedora-bashers ever used it? > > > Most of them, probably not. There's the fantasyland of Red Hat being > the next Microsoft (this dates back to even before RHEL's launch). Actually, it's funny Whatever the hiped distro of the year is, it attracts new users that defend it with the faith of new converts. Used to be Mandriva, then Gentoo and now Ubuntu. They all settle down after a while, and don't need Fedora-bashing to assert themselves. Witness the very tame messages of this year's Gentooers/Mandrivers. -- Nicolas Mailhot From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 16 18:57:48 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:27:48 +0530 Subject: Fedora User Statistics Message-ID: <45FAE8AC.6050909@fedoraproject.org> Hi If you are attending a event promoting and discussing Fedora, you might want to take advantage of this poster that has been successfully used in FOSDEM 2007. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/StatisticsPoster Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 16 23:29:06 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:29:06 +0100 Subject: Fedora User Statistics In-Reply-To: <45FAE8AC.6050909@fedoraproject.org> References: <45FAE8AC.6050909@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703161629g79a58cc7h357e601af7b72ce5@mail.gmail.com> On 3/16/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > If you are attending a event promoting and discussing Fedora, you might > want to take advantage of this poster that has been successfully used in > FOSDEM 2007. And in Chemnitz Linuxtag as well two weeks ago. :) regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sun Mar 18 03:44:06 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:44:06 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT Message-ID: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Guys!! The Fedora Project need a mascot. What do you think about this ? ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/LWGPg3HAC1vlg4RAqX1AJ0dIppsxDDxAUGLABZay6XYmc8ERACffMKF pK08clMXPa98tVBRGFJ3OjI= =2FFq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nihedmm at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 06:23:50 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:23:50 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703182323j1abbc9a4s3dd81979700da6fc@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I think that is good But you must change the color of the bar in the bottom. and for for the mascot, do you have a idea ?? it will be a animal like other open source product ? ?? thank you 2007/3/18, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Guys!! > > > The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > What do you think about this ? > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > www.projetofedora.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF/LWGPg3HAC1vlg4RAqX1AJ0dIppsxDDxAUGLABZay6XYmc8ERACffMKF > pK08clMXPa98tVBRGFJ3OjI= > =2FFq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A modified tux or another animal ?? Animals in use: elephant = PostgreSQL dolphin = MySQL camaleon = Suse Gnu = Gnu Project Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh Penguin = Linux Dino = Mozilla fox = Firefox bird = Firebird, Thunderbird We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot. ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > I prefer an animal :) > > Francesco Ugolini > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >> Hi Guys!! >> >> >> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >> >> What do you think about this ? >> >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >> www.projetofedora.org >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/OUVPg3HAC1vlg4RAktcAJ4xRarhGhQmXZ+H6RTdP1NzH5l1NgCffJaR 48NL1/AHaGqpxwufNPZk7NE= =XsG1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From siddharth at techbugs.org Mon Mar 19 07:04:26 2007 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:34:26 +0530 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat Regards Siddharth On 3/18/07, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > +1 > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > Animals in use: > > elephant = PostgreSQL > dolphin = MySQL > camaleon = Suse > Gnu = Gnu Project > Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh > Penguin = Linux > Dino = Mozilla > fox = Firefox > bird = Firebird, Thunderbird > > > We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot. > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera > > > Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > > I prefer an animal :) > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > >> Hi Guys!! > >> > >> > >> The Fedora Project need a mascot. > >> > >> What do you think about this ? > >> > >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > >> www.projetofedora.org > >> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF/OUVPg3HAC1vlg4RAktcAJ4xRarhGhQmXZ+H6RTdP1NzH5l1NgCffJaR > 48NL1/AHaGqpxwufNPZk7NE= > =XsG1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 07:17:22 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:17:22 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45FE3902.5050801@nicubunu.ro> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > > The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > What do you think about this ? Last time when this was discussed (IIRC, around the time the logo was created) the majority opined a mascot is not needed. Maybe the ambassadors can change that... with experience accumulated on the Fedora Art team and policies around the logo, I have to ask this: what copyright status would have such a mascot? Usage policies? If we end with something users/community members will not be allowed to use at will, then better not have anything. With those being said, I am sure the Art Team would have a lot of fun being involved in such a project. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 07:21:44 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:21:44 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45FE3A08.6040105@nicubunu.ro> Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that. Sure, if we select a cute animal and users are free to make modifications of it, probably some of them will add hats on their own (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) And about a Tux - I think we want something more personal, Tux with a small emblem look too much like 10 years ago... -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nihedmm at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 07:57:13 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:57:13 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE3A08.6040105@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <45FE3A08.6040105@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703190057h73e80d09k27051a0c08b36150@mail.gmail.com> I dislike the idea of Tux. I think that new mascot will be best then other modification of tux. We can propose to fedora artwork to make some examples then choose the best :) 2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei : > > Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > > How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat > > Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that. > Sure, if we select a cute animal and users are free to make > modifications of it, probably some of them will add hats on their own > (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) > > And about a Tux - I think we want something more personal, Tux with a > small emblem look too much like 10 years ago... > > -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How about a cool icebear with sunglasses and a baseball cap? herman 2007/3/19, nihed mbarek : > > I dislike the idea of Tux. > I think that new mascot will be best then other modification of tux. > We can propose to fedora artwork to make some examples then choose the > best :) > > 2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei < nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>: > > > > Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > > > > How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat > > > > Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that. > > Sure, if we select a cute animal and users are free to make > > modifications of it, probably some of them will add hats on their own > > (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) > > > > And about a Tux - I think we want something more personal, Tux with a > > small emblem look too much like 10 years ago... > > > > -- > > nicu > > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > -- > M'BAREK Med Nihed, > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just my five cents Gerold Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > +1 > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > Animals in use: > > elephant = PostgreSQL > dolphin = MySQL > camaleon = Suse > Gnu = Gnu Project > Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh > Penguin = Linux > Dino = Mozilla > fox = Firefox > bird = Firebird, Thunderbird > > > We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot. > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera > > > Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > > I prefer an animal :) > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > >> Hi Guys!! > >> > >> > >> The Fedora Project need a mascot. > >> > >> What do you think about this ? > >> > >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > >> www.projetofedora.org > >> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF/OUVPg3HAC1vlg4RAktcAJ4xRarhGhQmXZ+H6RTdP1NzH5l1NgCffJaR > 48NL1/AHaGqpxwufNPZk7NE= > =XsG1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From johan.cwiklinski at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 19 08:52:16 2007 From: johan.cwiklinski at fedoraproject.org (Johan Cwiklinski) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:52:16 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <45FE4F40.2050301@fedoraproject.org> Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > we should choose "the king" of the animals, ... > > as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... > > the LION! > > all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora Project" :-) > > powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also majestic! > > Just my five cents > > Gerold > > > > Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de > Oliveira: > +1 > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > Animals in use: > > elephant = PostgreSQL > dolphin = MySQL > camaleon = Suse > Gnu = Gnu Project > Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh > Penguin = Linux > Dino = Mozilla > fox = Firefox > bird = Firebird, Thunderbird > > > We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot. > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera > > > Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > >>> I prefer an animal :) > >>> > >>> Francesco Ugolini > >>> > >>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > >>>> Hi Guys!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. > >>>> > >>>> What do you think about this ? > >>>> > >>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > >>>> www.projetofedora.org > >>>> Hello, Are not Lions also lazy animals ? :-D I think our mascot should also seem sympathic, as the Fedora community... While I won't vote for a penguin, I think an animal is a very good idea :) Regards, Johan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 23:33:55 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno3) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:33:55 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1174260835.2672.4.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 09:38 +0100, schreef Gerold Kassube: > we should choose "the king" of the animals, ... > > as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... Well, nothing wrong with ambitions. > the LION! See the Pardus logo, I like that. I think it's not a lion though. > all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora Project" :-) > > powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also majestic! And lazy, arrogant, letting the women do all the work, and killing a female's existing offspring to seduce her into mating? ;) > Just my five cents > > Gerold You can have mine too. ;) > > Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de > Oliveira: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > +1 > > > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > > > > Animals in use: > > > > elephant = PostgreSQL > > dolphin = MySQL > > camaleon = Suse > > Gnu = Gnu Project > > Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh > > Penguin = Linux > > Dino = Mozilla > > fox = Firefox > > bird = Firebird, Thunderbird > > > > > > We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot. > > > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera > > > > > > Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > > > I prefer an animal :) > > > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > > >> Hi Guys!! > > >> > > >> > > >> The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > >> > > >> What do you think about this ? > > >> > > >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > >> www.projetofedora.org > > >> > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFF/OUVPg3HAC1vlg4RAktcAJ4xRarhGhQmXZ+H6RTdP1NzH5l1NgCffJaR > > 48NL1/AHaGqpxwufNPZk7NE= > > =XsG1 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From naoki at valuecommerce.com Mon Mar 19 08:52:50 2007 From: naoki at valuecommerce.com (Naoki) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:52:50 +0900 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat : http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) : http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote: > +1 LION > > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube : > we should choose "the king" of the animals, ... > > as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... > > the LION! > > all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora > Project" :-) > > powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also > majestic! > > Just my five cents > > Gerold > > > > Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula > de > Oliveira: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > +1 > > > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > From nihedmm at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 09:04:14 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:04:14 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703190204m1263182k377a9eab5b61b8b@mail.gmail.com> Why not a cat ? ? familial animal and beautiful :) 2007/3/19, Naoki : > > > No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most > courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat : > http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html > > > Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known > relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) : > http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html > > > > > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote: > > +1 LION > > > > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube : > > we should choose "the king" of the animals, ... > > > > as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... > > > > the LION! > > > > all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora > > Project" :-) > > > > powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also > > majestic! > > > > Just my five cents > > > > Gerold > > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula > > de > > Oliveira: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > > > > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naoki at valuecommerce.com Mon Mar 19 09:01:50 2007 From: naoki at valuecommerce.com (Naoki) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:01:50 +0900 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703190204m1263182k377a9eab5b61b8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bddd8fd0703190204m1263182k377a9eab5b61b8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174294910.30851.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 10:04 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote: > Why not a cat ? ? > familial animal > and beautiful :) Because cats are evil. Honestly though, how about : * The dolphin? Everybody loves them, and they are social, intelligent, and tasty. * The tortoise, a wonder of evolution. Or my favourite option... * Platypus - The greatest animal on the planet, built up from many small strange parts you can find elsewhere in nature. The most bizarre animal around, and at the same time perfectly suited to the environment in which it lives. From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 23:48:13 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno3) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:48:13 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> That goat is very cool. Let's take it! Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 17:52 +0900, schreef Naoki: > No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most > courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat : > http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html > > > Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known > relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) : > http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html > > > > > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote: > > +1 LION > > > > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube : > > we should choose "the king" of the animals, ... > > > > as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... > > > > the LION! > > > > all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora > > Project" :-) > > > > powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also > > majestic! > > > > Just my five cents > > > > Gerold > > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula > > de > > Oliveira: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > > > > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > > From naoki at valuecommerce.com Mon Mar 19 09:05:44 2007 From: naoki at valuecommerce.com (Naoki) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:05:44 +0900 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Message-ID: <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 00:48 +0100, hymno3 wrote: > That goat is very cool. > Let's take it! > > Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 17:52 +0900, schreef Naoki: > > No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most > > courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat : > > http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 09:23:32 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:23:32 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Naoki wrote: > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but instead *if* a mascot will be used or not. For reference go back to http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any constructive comments" There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very enthusiastically on a new initiative. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nihedmm at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 09:29:27 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:29:27 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703190229t1374cc15mcd9b1f4d21c45e02@mail.gmail.com> +1 for a mascot 2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei : > > Naoki wrote: > > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? > > Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but > instead *if* a mascot will be used or not. > > For reference go back to > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and > ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any > constructive comments" > > There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we > will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very > enthusiastically on a new initiative. > > -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Mar 19 09:33:19 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:33:19 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1174296799.3928.9.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> +2 to Nicos reply ... Am Montag, den 19.03.2007, 11:23 +0200 schrieb Nicu Buculei: > Naoki wrote: > > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? > > Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but > instead *if* a mascot will be used or not. > > For reference go back to > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and > ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any > constructive comments" > > There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we > will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very > enthusiastically on a new initiative. > > -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From naoki at valuecommerce.com Mon Mar 19 09:35:12 2007 From: naoki at valuecommerce.com (Naoki) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:35:12 +0900 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1174296912.30851.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 11:23 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Naoki wrote: > > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? > > Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but > instead *if* a mascot will be used or not. > > For reference go back to > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and > ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any > constructive comments" > > There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we > will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very > enthusiastically on a new initiative. Opps sorry, got into the thread waay too late it seems. In my defence though a vote for a goat is a vote of a mascot (which could be the slogan for the "Goat for FC mascot" campaign..) A logo is a must, and we have a good one already.. A mascot is nice, people like mascots, but there are arguments against having one, such as they are cheesy, or gimmicky. Here are some arguments against a masocot made on meta wiki (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_mascot#No_mascot.2C_please.21) : "Mascots have an inherent playfulness in them that is fine for most projects, but dangerous ground for an encylcopedia" - In this case an OS.. "mascot serves no purpose/an animal popular or recognizable in one culture may be tabboo, feared or unrecognized in another." - True. But the vastly overwhelming response is people do want a mascot, which is fine, but does it actually help the project, or the marketing of that project. No. It does not. It doesn't help the project, and the marketing should be about evangelising the technical merits, or the benefits of open source. There is one place a mascot helps though, and that is mind-share, it gives people something a little tangible to associate with. So at the very least we need an un-official mascot so that our local Zoos can nick-name a goat "Fedora", and techs can have something on the back of their T-shirts for proud display (snarling horned goat staring you down and so on). It will also give FC loving sites a plush toy to sell for revenue. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Mar 19 10:11:50 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:11:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <18546.192.54.193.51.1174299110.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Lun 19 mars 2007 10:23, Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we > will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very > enthusiastically on a new initiative. IMHO a mascot is a good way to attract new users and break our techie-only image. I won't comment on the timing and cold showers part. -- Nicolas Mailhot From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 09:29:37 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:29:37 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <45FE5801.7070003@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > > For reference go back to > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and > ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any > constructive comments" The thread was so huge, it continued in the next month: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-July/thread.html And yet one more month later we talked even concrete images (dogs, chemical elements. etc.): http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-August/thread.html -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:29:57 2007 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:29:57 -0700 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20070319122957.GA10988@gja.in> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Naoki sent out 0.5K bytes to say: > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? A Goat stands for LiveJournal, which is a FOSS project, and a well recognised logo anyway. How about a plant? -- Tejas Dinkar http://gja.in From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 09:59:33 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:59:33 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174296912.30851.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> <1174296912.30851.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45FE5F05.7000709@nicubunu.ro> Naoki wrote: > > But the vastly overwhelming response is people do want a mascot, which > is fine, but does it actually help the project, or the marketing of that > project. No. It does not. It doesn't help the project, and the marketing > should be about evangelising the technical merits, or the benefits of > open source. My personal point of view based on my experience in the Art Team: a mascot could allow us to create a lot of unofficial graphics which a lot of users may love and use. Yes, any of us can do cute graphics using his own imagery and publish them in his own channels (and some already do that), but having a mascot agreed by everyone could allow a concerted effort and higher visibility. > There is one place a mascot helps though, and that is mind-share, it > gives people something a little tangible to associate with. > > It will also give FC loving sites a plush toy to sell for revenue. also T-shirts, mouse pads, stickers, calendars -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From rerushg at homexpressway.net Mon Mar 19 12:55:10 2007 From: rerushg at homexpressway.net (rerushg at homexpressway.net) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora Mascot Message-ID: <38914.165.166.0.80.1174308910.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.net> I'm a newcomer to all this but I'll throw in two cents anyway. Been on Fedora some two months now so my view is as a relative newbie, lots of computer experience but not a "geek" or "power user". In my past career I was responsible for a technical product that was the best. Even our competition did not argue. But being the best is not enough. You must still "sell" your product. An important part of selling is making the potential customer feel comfortable with you, with the product, and with your company. Having said that..... One of you said something about the "techie image". I think that comment was right on target. Website needs to be "softened" (see Ubuntu site:...people...working together). Maybe a formal mascot is not necessay. There are possible pitfalls with use of mascot. Maybe reworking the website a bit to make it more friendly could be helped by using small "unofficial" images of "possible mascots" as place markers. Maybe one of the images will become popular. By the way. People don't think much of goats in US. Unfortunately, an athlete who goofs up at the wrong time is called a "goat"; the guy who lost the game for the team. I like dolphins though. Don't know of any bad thoughts about dolphins. Intelligence, speed, freedom, good attitude all come to mind. And it would be easy to work dolphins into the existing Fedora blue colors. Mascots (or at least "organic" images) connote "warm & fuzzy". Fedora could use some warm & fuzzy. From gotencoolwebmaster at yahoo.es Mon Mar 19 14:13:21 2007 From: gotencoolwebmaster at yahoo.es (Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Villagr=E1n?= Morales) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:13:21 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: > I prefer an animal :) > > Francesco Ugolini > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > > Hi Guys!! > > > > > > The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > > > What do you think about this ? > > > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > www.projetofedora.org > > > > -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales [linuxuser:#384391] Embajador Fedora - Chile sip:gotencool at ekiga.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do not vote on what animal the mascot should > be, but > instead *if* a mascot will be used or not. > > For reference go back to > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag > idea" and > ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have > any > constructive comments" > > There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide > first if we > will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to > start very > enthusiastically on a new initiative. > > -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > -- > M'BAREK Med Nihed, > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales [linuxuser:#384391] Embajador Fedora - Chile sip:gotencool at ekiga.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ncorrare at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 14:43:30 2007 From: ncorrare at redhat.com (Nicolas Antonio Corrarello) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:43:30 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FEA192.60709@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dolphin is MySQL logo, Real artists ship nihed mbarek escribi?: > but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) > > 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello : >> > +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor > > Eduardo Villagr?n Morales escribi?: >> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. >> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: >>> I prefer an animal :) > >>> Francesco Ugolini > >>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >>>> Hi Guys!! >>>> >>>> >>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >>>> >>>> What do you think about this ? >>>> >>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >>>> www.projetofedora.org >>>> >>> -- >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > >> - -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/qGS4UWy+d/Ik+4RAvomAJ9+UMzW/cBkP6Nvi2T++CNZOAWb+ACfUjjR BDqKsTvQ1ew1R+bzzhwHAvE= =sD1V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Mar 19 14:48:13 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:48:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <37891.192.54.193.51.1174315693.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Lun 19 mars 2007 15:40, nihed mbarek a ?crit : > but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) Dolphins and tuxes have been used and abused I like the goat idea. Saw a feral one happily nursing a kid at noon in the Australian bush (50?C). Impressive -- Nicolas Mailhot From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:45:55 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:45:55 +0800 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: flying symbolize freedom +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom perhaps not condor, other birds?? -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Mar 19 15:10:17 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:10:17 +0900 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org><45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco><45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com><5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <37891.192.54.193.51.1174315693.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <019e01c76a38$b4d80fc0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Mailhot" To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Cc: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: FEDORA MASCOT > > Le Lun 19 mars 2007 15:40, nihed mbarek a ?crit : >> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) > > Dolphins and tuxes have been used and abused > > I like the goat idea. Saw a feral one happily nursing a kid at noon in the > Australian bush (50?C). Impressive > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > You were obviously taking a break to see that. Every time I see one of them its generally me going past at 110km/h and with the aircon turned up. -1 to the goat +1 to something relating to a mascot not sure what yet nothing has 'jumped' out. Cheers Marc From gotencoolwebmaster at yahoo.es Mon Mar 19 14:15:24 2007 From: gotencoolwebmaster at yahoo.es (Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Villagr=E1n?= Morales) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:15:24 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174313724.5369.4.camel@trauco> The goat is nice, is a 4x4 animal, for all conditions. Puppylinux use puppy as mascot El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 17:52 +0900, Naoki escribi?: > No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most > courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat : > http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html > > > Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known > relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) : > http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html > > > > > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote: > > +1 LION > > > > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube : > > we should choose "the king" of the animals, ... > > > > as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... > > > > the LION! > > > > all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora > > Project" :-) > > > > powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also > > majestic! > > > > Just my five cents > > > > Gerold > > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula > > de > > Oliveira: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > An animal is a very good idea!! > > > > > > A modified tux or another animal ?? > > > > -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales [linuxuser:#384391] Embajador Fedora - Chile sip:gotencool at ekiga.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sun Mar 18 15:48:02 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:48:02 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FD5F32.2010105@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 But it's used in MySQL Project nihed mbarek escreveu: > but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) > > 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello >: > > +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor > > Eduardo Villagr?n Morales escribi?: >> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. >> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: >>> I prefer an animal :) >>> >>> Francesco Ugolini >>> >>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >>>> Hi Guys!! >>>> >>>> >>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >>>> >>>> What do you think about this ? >>>> >>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >>>> www.projetofedora.org >>>> >>> -- >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini >>> > - -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- > M'BAREK Med Nihed, > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/V8yPg3HAC1vlg4RAlYGAKCdbFr0IXOUwL7r4JsZEtWAFNileACfRsvS 4bMgOrN6SvHKDFQX/2c1lAk= =Gp8r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Mar 19 15:44:14 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:44:14 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > flying symbolize freedom > +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom > > perhaps not condor, other birds?? > How about an owl? Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 15:48:53 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno3) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:48:53 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1174319333.23388.3.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Before the entire animal kingdom is passing by, does anyone have an idea of the kind of procedures such ideas should be going through, with the fedora art team and all? There's no democracy in designish/artistic taste. Before it is taken too seriously, let's contact a few artistic types to see how they feel and what things they've been coming up with. I have the feeling there are quite competent artists in the fedora art team. Or else, post a few links with drawings, sketches, suggestions, people have already made. Otherwise, it is getting quite meaningless. herman Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 16:44 +0100, schreef Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > > flying symbolize freedom > > +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom > > > > perhaps not condor, other birds?? > > > > How about an owl? > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 15:50:53 2007 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:50:53 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> How about a puppy? From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 15:54:04 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:54:04 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45FEB21C.9010600@nicubunu.ro> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > > The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > What do you think about this ? I started a talk on the Art list [1] about this. Will think a bit about it, consult with other members of the community and lay down a plan in the wiki (with rules and dates). As a start, here is how I think a mascot should be: - Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks); - lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot; - produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our community's baby. I am very confident the Art Team can reach a sensible result, please participate in the process. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-March/thread.html -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 15:57:09 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:57:09 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174319333.23388.3.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <1174319333.23388.3.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> Message-ID: <45FEB2D5.1080305@nicubunu.ro> hymno3 wrote: > Before the entire animal kingdom is passing by, does anyone have an idea > of the kind of procedures such ideas should be going through, with the > fedora art team and all? There's no democracy in designish/artistic > taste. I just forwarded the subject to the Art Team along with a call to action. > Before it is taken too seriously, let's contact a few artistic types to > see how they feel and what things they've been coming up with. I have > the feeling there are quite competent artists in the fedora art team. And I think this project could be a very important jump start for the team. > Or else, post a few links with drawings, sketches, suggestions, people > have already made. Otherwise, it is getting quite meaningless. Please post such drawings to the Art list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sun Mar 18 16:19:23 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:19:23 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FD5F32.2010105@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FD5F32.2010105@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45FD668B.4000707@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My Sugestions: Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg White Tiger (Good Idea): http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus): http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif White Shark (My favorite): http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-shark.jpg Orca (Good idea): http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg BLUE ANIMALS Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea): http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot) Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu: > But it's used in MySQL Project > > nihed mbarek escreveu: >> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) > >> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello > >: > >> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor > >> Eduardo Villagr?n Morales escribi?: >>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. >>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: >>>> I prefer an animal :) >>>> >>>> Francesco Ugolini >>>> >>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >>>>> Hi Guys!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >>>>> >>>>> What do you think about this ? >>>>> >>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >>>>> www.projetofedora.org >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini >>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/WaKPg3HAC1vlg4RAhoJAKCPJcuRhESn4CyyLd3G5uNZoqlpYACguJYr r0KJru1LLr5yZn1C3pjWmL4= =0cMx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 19 15:59:49 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:59:49 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> Alex Maier wrote: > How about a puppy? I remember the puppy idea was highly circulated in 2005 when we talked the last time about a mascot. And now with the god in the pup icon not uses in the distro anywhere, probably we can use that. But, pretty please, can we talk implementation details on the Art list? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ncorrare at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 16:24:03 2007 From: ncorrare at redhat.com (Nicolas Antonio Corrarello) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:24:03 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FD668B.4000707@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FD5F32.2010105@projetofedora.org> <45FD668B.4000707@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45FEB923.2090408@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Loved the blur arara Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escribi?: > My Sugestions: > > Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg > > White Tiger (Good Idea): > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg > > Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus): > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif > > White Shark (My favorite): > http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-shark.jpg > > Orca (Good idea): > http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif > > Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg > > > BLUE ANIMALS > > Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea): > http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot) > > Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm > > Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg > > > > Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition > > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu: >> But it's used in MySQL Project > >> nihed mbarek escreveu: >>> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) >>> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello >> >: >>> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor >>> Eduardo Villagr?n Morales escribi?: >>>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. >>>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: >>>>> I prefer an animal :) >>>>> >>>>> Francesco Ugolini >>>>> >>>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >>>>>> Hi Guys!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think about this ? >>>>>> >>>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >>>>>> www.projetofedora.org >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/rkj4UWy+d/Ik+4RAvZHAKCYpe1TI3b+nfdTFM4Xp5uU5oqlKACfUjg+ wv7T150rTCJlLg2eSPHxCCA= =x7bH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sun Mar 18 16:39:32 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:39:32 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FEB923.2090408@redhat.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FD5F32.2010105@projetofedora.org> <45FD668B.4000707@projetofedora.org> <45FEB923.2090408@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45FD6B44.3060600@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It's is very beautiful! More pictures: http://www.caiman.com.br/caiman/img/ararazul_03.jpg More information: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arara-azul-grande Nicolas Antonio Corrarello escreveu: > Loved the blur arara > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escribi?: >> My Sugestions: > >> Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg > >> White Tiger (Good Idea): >> http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg > >> Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus): >> http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif > >> White Shark (My favorite): >> http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-shark.jpg > >> Orca (Good idea): >> http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif > >> Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg > > >> BLUE ANIMALS > >> Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea): >> http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot) > >> Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm > >> Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg > > > >> Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition > > >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > >> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu: >>> But it's used in MySQL Project >>> nihed mbarek escreveu: >>>> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) >>>> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello >>> >: >>>> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor >>>> Eduardo Villagr?n Morales escribi?: >>>>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. >>>>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: >>>>>> I prefer an animal :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Francesco Ugolini >>>>>> >>>>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >>>>>>> Hi Guys!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think about this ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >>>>>>> www.projetofedora.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/WtEPg3HAC1vlg4RAt4ZAKC4syutugSKXMSM8HiuO5V2CIUUnACfQP72 ZN4KS2+zVfR7eNx3jQt717A= =6ZTi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gotencoolwebmaster at yahoo.es Mon Mar 19 17:09:37 2007 From: gotencoolwebmaster at yahoo.es (Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Villagr=E1n?= Morales) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:09:37 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FEB923.2090408@redhat.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FD5F32.2010105@projetofedora.org> <45FD668B.4000707@projetofedora.org> <45FEB923.2090408@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1174324177.5852.1.camel@trauco> Blue Arara parrot is cool!, but my preferences are: 1. Condor 2. Goat 3. Parrot Arara El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 13:24 -0300, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello escribi?: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Loved the blur arara > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escribi?: > > My Sugestions: > > > > Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg > > > > White Tiger (Good Idea): > > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg > > > > Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus): > > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif > > > > White Shark (My favorite): > > http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-shark.jpg > > > > Orca (Good idea): > > http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif > > > > Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg > > > > > > BLUE ANIMALS > > > > Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea): > > http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot) > > > > Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm > > > > Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg > > > > > > > > Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition > > > > > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > > > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu: > >> But it's used in MySQL Project > > > >> nihed mbarek escreveu: > >>> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) > >>> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello >>> >: > >>> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor > >>> Eduardo Villagr?n Morales escribi?: > >>>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux. > >>>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: > >>>>> I prefer an animal :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Francesco Ugolini > >>>>> > >>>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > >>>>>> Hi Guys!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What do you think about this ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > >>>>>> www.projetofedora.org > >>>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > >>>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF/rkj4UWy+d/Ik+4RAvZHAKCYpe1TI3b+nfdTFM4Xp5uU5oqlKACfUjg+ > wv7T150rTCJlLg2eSPHxCCA= > =x7bH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales [linuxuser:#384391] Embajador Fedora - Chile sip:gotencool at ekiga.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Condor or Blue Arara Parrot El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 22:45 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail escribi?: > flying symbolize freedom > +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom > > perhaps not condor, other birds?? > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > regards > Hikaru > ----------------------------------------------- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > ----------------------------------------------- > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > ----------------------------------------------- > -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales [linuxuser:#384391] Embajador Fedora - Chile sip:gotencool at ekiga.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From lxmaier at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:19:51 2007 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex Maier) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:19:51 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> On 3/19/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Alex Maier wrote: > > How about a puppy? > > I remember the puppy idea was highly circulated in 2005 when we talked > the last time about a mascot. And now with the god in the pup icon not > uses in the distro anywhere, probably we can use that. > > But, pretty please, can we talk implementation details on the Art list? I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here: How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat? Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 19 17:22:11 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:22:11 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FEC6C3.1000708@fedoraproject.org> +1 Alex Maier ha scritto: > On 3/19/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Alex Maier wrote: >> > How about a puppy? >> >> I remember the puppy idea was highly circulated in 2005 when we talked >> the last time about a mascot. And now with the god in the pup icon not >> uses in the distro anywhere, probably we can use that. >> >> But, pretty please, can we talk implementation details on the Art list? > > I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here: > > > How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat? > > > Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a > long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists > now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional > imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Mon Mar 19 17:29:58 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:29:58 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <1174325398.3630.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dimanche 18 mars 2007 ? 00:44 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira a ?crit : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Guys!! > > > The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > What do you think about this ? > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > www.projetofedora.org Too bad, I can't see your proposal because your website is being migrated. OK, here is my 2 cents about a mascot. I think that we also have to think about one thing : we already have a nice logo. Take for example Firefox and its logo. The animal is a part of the logo itself, and so it is for the other examples (MySQL, SUSE...). As the animal is part of the logo, adopting an animal, would make us change the logo to add the animal in it or around the Fedora brand. Here is my proposal : how to mix our logo with an animal and to add meaning to both of them at the same time. The animal, well the insect I suggest, is a bee. Why a bee ? Because it is maybe the only insect who has in charge the reproduction process of flowers, by spreading pollen. Lets compare flowers to Linux Distributions then, and pollen to technology in general. Isn't Fedora the most bleeding edge distribution which sees most of its technologies spread among the free and open source world, i.e. Linux distributions ? OK, now, how to mix a bee and our present logo ? I definitely see a bee with Fedora logo wings. How beautiful would it be to make the Voice of the Community with the Infinite Symbol fly in the sky, and taking altitude, helping the bee (Fedora) to spread technology (pollen) among flowers (distributions) ! Cheers ! Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Animals in use: elephant = PostgreSQL dolphin = MySQL camaleon = Suse Gnu = Gnu Project Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh Penguin = Linux Dino = Mozilla fox = Firefox bird = Firebird, Thunderbird We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot. +1 ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera Francesco Ugolini escreveu: > I prefer an animal :) > > Francesco Ugolini > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: >> Hi Guys!! >> >> >> The Fedora Project need a mascot. >> >> What do you think about this ? >> >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >> www.projetofedora.org >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/OUVPg3HAC1vlg4RAktcAJ4xRarhGhQmXZ+H6RTdP1NzH5l1NgCffJaR 48NL1/AHaGqpxwufNPZk7NE= =XsG1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Mon Mar 19 13:02:01 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:02:01 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <1174309321.3726.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dimanche 18 mars 2007 ? 00:44 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira a ?crit : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Guys!! > > > The Fedora Project need a mascot. > > What do you think about this ? > > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > www.projetofedora.org Too bad, I can't see your proposal because your website is being migrated. OK, here is my 2 cents about a mascot. I think that we also have to think about one thing : we already have a nice logo. Take for example Firefox and its logo. The animal is a part of the logo itself, and so it is for the other examples (MySQL, SUSE...). As the animal is part of the logo, adopting an animal, would make us change the logo to add the animal in it or around the Fedora brand. Here is my proposal : how to mix our logo with an animal and to add meaning to both of them at the same time. The animal, well the insect I suggest, is a bee. Why a bee ? Because it is maybe the only insect who has in charge the reproduction process of flowers, by spreading pollen. Lets compare flowers to Linux Distributions then, and pollen to technology in general. Isn't Fedora the most bleeding edge distribution which sees most of its technologies spread among the free and open source world, i.e. Linux distributions ? OK, now, how to mix a bee and our present logo ? I definitely see a bee with Fedora logo wings. How beautiful would it be to make the Voice of the Community with the Infinite Symbol fly in the sky, and taking altitude, helping the bee (Fedora) to spread technology (pollen) among flowers (distributions) ! Cheers ! Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 19 18:19:26 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:19:26 +0100 Subject: R: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <200703191803.l2JI2w9J000382@m-02.th.seeweb.it> References: <200703191803.l2JI2w9J000382@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Message-ID: <45FED42E.9010005@fedoraproject.org> I think the discussion is just closed (Alex underline that this discussion was just closed). We can continue talking about dolphins, horse etc... but we have just our point of reference, discuss just a year ago. I will work to create a wiki page with all marketing closed item, one of this is Fedora Logo (that, at the end, represents our project, like BSD logo, MySql etc...), in fact we chose the infinite logo as our own logo, as other projects chose animal, symbol, signs etc... Regards Francesco Ugolini > Alex Maier wrote: > > I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here: > > > How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat? > > > Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a > long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists > now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional > imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html Francesco Ugolini From gdk at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 18:24:35 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Alex Maier wrote: > Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a > long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists > now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional > imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html /me shrugs. If the Fedora community wants a mascot that they can use independently of the Fedora Logo -- which is Trademarked And Thus Unavailable For Free Usage -- I have no problem watching them try. The official mark is clearly a settled question. But the beauty of unofficial marks is just that; they are unofficial. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From naoki at valuecommerce.com Tue Mar 20 06:16:31 2007 From: naoki at valuecommerce.com (Naoki) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:16:31 +0900 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174371391.11269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm still digging the goat because it's sort of like the Gnu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildebeest). They live in almost any environment, in harsh conditions, they are sturdy and reliable, eat anything, and have horns. The best argument against so far was that it is already the mascot for LiveJournal : http://www.livejournal.com/site/goat.bml Wonder if we can share ;) If not, the obviously the platypus is the best animal : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus Go on, I dare you to show me a more mixed up mammal. From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Tue Mar 20 06:32:20 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:32:20 -0600 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174294910.30851.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <"11742 94370.30851.21.camel"@localhost.localdomain> <"5bddd8fd0703190204m1263182k37 7a 9eab5b61b8b"@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FF7FF4.30105@prodigy.net.mx> Naoki escribi?: > Or my favourite option... > > * Platypus - The greatest animal on the planet, built up from many small > strange parts you can find elsewhere in nature. The most bizarre animal > around, and at the same time perfectly suited to the environment in > which it lives. Already taken, it's the mascot for Darwin, the actual OS of MacOS X (MacOS X without Quartz and Aqua) I'd be all for a Lion or a Tiger (my favorite big cats) From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Tue Mar 20 06:39:29 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:39:29 -0600 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE3A08.6040105@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <"f9fac7f40703190004i5edfed7dn71828ddc4d c78dd0"@mail.gmail.com> <45FE3A08.6040105@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <45FF81A1.2070708@prodigy.net.mx> Nicu Buculei escribi?: > Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that. Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? I mean, Fedora is named *after* a hat, "losing the hat" is like losing the identity (or rendering the word meaningless, hence the quest for a new identity, found in the Speech+Infinite+Freedom Fedora logo we now have), I suppose the "no Hats allowed" rule comes straight from Red Hat and "marketing confusion/brand recognition" if a hat was used by Fedora (not to say the perpetuation of the stigma that Fedora is Red Hat's playground)... Just found this fact to be kind of... contradictory. Alas a name change at this point (about the 7th release) is [completely] out of the question. From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Tue Mar 20 06:55:44 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:55:44 -0600 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <"5bddd8fd07031 90740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b"@mail.gmail.com> <"c44298520703190745j68e62c b5 mdb95351e25836460"@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <"7f617d270 70 3190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca"@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FF8570.3000408@prodigy.net.mx> Alex Maier escribi?: > I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here: > > > How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat? > > > Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a > long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists > now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional > imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html > > Since Logos are directly related to branding, their terms of use are rather stiff. Instead, and I take Tux as example, a mascot gives more liberty to the users (as long as the terms of use say that) to use and modify as long as the essence is preserved. Gives the users the chance to do things with it, play with it (after all, that's what we humans have mascots in real life, and that's pretty much their definition also, as they're not animals to perform any specific task, but rather to keep us company and to play with)... I don't mind not adopting a mascot (though I'd prefer that) and just stick to the Logo, but I really like the *freedom* a mascot would bring for custom *redistributable* graphics and such. From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Mar 19 13:12:31 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:12:31 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FF7FF4.30105@prodigy.net.mx> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <"11742 94370.30851.21.camel"@localhost.localdomain> <"5bddd8fd0703190204m1263182k37 7a 9eab5b61b8b"@mail.gmail.com> <45FF7FF4.30105@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <45FE8C3F.5020306@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gian Paolo Mureddu escreveu: > Naoki escribi?: >> Or my favourite option... >> >> * Platypus - The greatest animal on the planet, built up from many small >> strange parts you can find elsewhere in nature. The most bizarre animal >> around, and at the same time perfectly suited to the environment in >> which it lives. > > Already taken, it's the mascot for Darwin, the actual OS of MacOS X > (MacOS X without Quartz and Aqua) > I'd be all for a Lion or a Tiger (my favorite big cats) > White Tiger is very beautiful and Blue Arara (Parrot) is a good idea... Fedora is BLUE. A blue animal is the best way! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/ow/Pg3HAC1vlg4RAseZAJ9PfYKa3p361+vgIa1oPx4tPPdOtACdG/XH I7H4kJ2L/c6osNXh04hhZ3w= =NNsf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Mar 19 13:30:26 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:30:26 -0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FF8570.3000408@prodigy.net.mx> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <"5bddd8fd07031 90740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b"@mail.gmail.com> <"c44298520703190745j68e62c b5 mdb95351e25836460"@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <"7f617d270 70 3190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca"@mail.gmail.com> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <45FF8570.3000408@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <45FE9072.6090701@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 +1 Gian Paolo Mureddu escreveu: > Alex Maier escribi?: >> I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here: >> >> >> How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat? >> >> >> Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a >> long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists >> now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional >> imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html >> >> > > Since Logos are directly related to branding, their terms of use are > rather stiff. Instead, and I take Tux as example, a mascot gives more > liberty to the users (as long as the terms of use say that) to use and > modify as long as the essence is preserved. Gives the users the chance > to do things with it, play with it (after all, that's what we humans > have mascots in real life, and that's pretty much their definition also, > as they're not animals to perform any specific task, but rather to keep > us company and to play with)... I don't mind not adopting a mascot > (though I'd prefer that) and just stick to the Logo, but I really like > the *freedom* a mascot would bring for custom *redistributable* graphics > and such. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF/pByPg3HAC1vlg4RAi3dAKDFOtt7HA5Ioo0VvsW0kRb4DTvA0QCeOh7d 6TiF2ZjEv/yBA17RGCBq31M= =IJ4M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paulds at bu.edu Tue Mar 20 14:20:37 2007 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:20:37 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FF81A1.2070708@prodigy.net.mx> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <"f9fac7f40703190004i5edfed7dn71828ddc4dc78dd0"@mail.gmail.com> <45FE3A08.6040105@nicubunu.ro> <45FF81A1.2070708@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <20070320142037.GA26830@jadzia.bu.edu> On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 12:39:29AM -0600, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > Nicu Buculei escribi?: > >Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that. > > Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? I mean, Fedora is named *after* a hat, Maybe, but that's the way it is going to be. Please refer to the list archives (previously linked to) for an *extensive* discussion of this. I don't think we need to discuss it again, since nothing has changed. > Speech+Infinite+Freedom Fedora logo we now have), I suppose the "no Hats > allowed" rule comes straight from Red Hat and "marketing confusion/brand > recognition" if a hat was used by Fedora (not to say the perpetuation of Correct. Blame US trademark law, and the follies of human perception. - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From ryanc75 at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 20:23:35 2007 From: ryanc75 at gmail.com (Ryan Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:23:35 +0000 Subject: Projects Wanted Message-ID: <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81@mail.gmail.com> Hello All, I have just joined the Fedora Wiki and wanted to know if there are any projects which i can help out on. I have a good linux experience and have been using fedora for about 2 years also i have been working on linux (RedHat) servers for about 3 years. If anyone has any ideas on anything i can help out on please email me at ryanc75 AT gmail.com and if i can i will help. Thanks Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 20:44:55 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:14:55 +0530 Subject: Projects Wanted In-Reply-To: <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460047C7.2070000@fedoraproject.org> Ryan Coleman wrote: > Hello All, > > I have just joined the Fedora Wiki and wanted to know if there are any > projects which i can help out on. I have a good linux experience and > have been using fedora for about 2 years also i have been working on > linux (RedHat) servers for about 3 years > If anyone has any ideas on anything i can help out on please email me at > ryanc75 AT gmail.com and if i can i will help. Since you wanted to be involved in coordinating news to the press as you indicated earlier on the offlist mail I would describe what I had in mind. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SpreadingNews If you look at the above page there is a list of press outlets that we would like to reach to when we have events of interest within Fedora which might as big as a new release or a major milestone. Currently we would have to send it manually. What would be useful is to have a single place where we can feed in this information and get a automated way to send it out to every relevant website via different mechanisms like a submit API, form fill or even a email address. Would you be interested in creating a infrastructure for that or alternatively acting as a gateway and sending the info manually? Rahul From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 20:44:06 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:44:06 +0100 Subject: Projects Wanted In-Reply-To: <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81@mail.gmail.com> References: <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46004796.6060204@fedoraproject.org> Ambassadors Project is wanting you ! If you want to give an help promoting Fedora around the world (and yes in your city), you are welcomed, just ask to join the Ambassadors group in account system. Best regards Francesco Ugolini Ryan Coleman ha scritto: > Hello All, > > I have just joined the Fedora Wiki and wanted to know if there are any > projects which i can help out on. I have a good linux experience and > have been using fedora for about 2 years also i have been working on > linux (RedHat) servers for about 3 years. > > If anyone has any ideas on anything i can help out on please email me at > ryanc75 AT gmail.com and if i can i will help. > > Thanks > Ryan > -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 20 20:47:06 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:17:06 +0530 Subject: Projects Wanted In-Reply-To: <46004796.6060204@fedoraproject.org> References: <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81@mail.gmail.com> <46004796.6060204@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4600484A.5070902@fedoraproject.org> Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Ambassadors Project is wanting you ! > > If you want to give an help promoting Fedora around the world (and yes > in your city), you are welcomed, just ask to join the Ambassadors group > in account system. > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > He is already one. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RyanColeman Rahul From caillon at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 16:54:23 2007 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:54:23 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Naoki wrote: >> I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? > > Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but > instead *if* a mascot will be used or not. > Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote. We can set up polls if need be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems unfair to all the contributors and users we have who may not be subscribed here who might have a say in the mascot of the community project. From ryanc75 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:55:35 2007 From: ryanc75 at gmail.com (Ryan Coleman) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:55:35 +0000 Subject: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 33, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: <20070321160008.4601E73258@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20070321160008.4601E73258@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <136c5afe0703210955g5769126r6d67b84e13008fb9@mail.gmail.com> Ok Rahul i would be interested. At the least i will do this manually but i will have a look at these sites and think about some way i could automate this. Thanks for the idea. Ryan On 21/03/07, fedora-marketing-list-request at redhat.com < fedora-marketing-list-request at redhat.com> wrote: > > Send Fedora-marketing-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-marketing-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-marketing-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-marketing-list digest..." > > > NOTE: When replying to digest messages, please set the subject to match > the original message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Projects Wanted (Ryan Coleman) > 2. Re: Projects Wanted (Rahul Sundaram) > 3. Re: Projects Wanted (Francesco Ugolini) > 4. Re: Projects Wanted (Rahul Sundaram) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:23:35 +0000 > From: "Ryan Coleman" > Subject: Projects Wanted > To: fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <136c5afe0703201323u3901e816nfd2c8fb3ec130f81 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello All, > > I have just joined the Fedora Wiki and wanted to know if there are any > projects which i can help out on. I have a good linux experience and have > been using fedora for about 2 years also i have been working on linux > (RedHat) servers for about 3 years. > > If anyone has any ideas on anything i can help out on please email me at > ryanc75 AT gmail.com and if i can i will help. > > Thanks > Ryan > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/attachments/20070320/89971a92/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:14:55 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Re: Projects Wanted > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Message-ID: <460047C7.2070000 at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have just joined the Fedora Wiki and wanted to know if there are any > > projects which i can help out on. I have a good linux experience and > > have been using fedora for about 2 years also i have been working on > > linux (RedHat) servers for about 3 years > > If anyone has any ideas on anything i can help out on please email me at > > ryanc75 AT gmail.com and if i can i will help. > > Since you wanted to be involved in coordinating news to the press as you > indicated earlier on the offlist mail I would describe what I had in mind. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SpreadingNews > > If you look at the above page there is a list of press outlets that we > would like to reach to when we have events of interest within Fedora > which might as big as a new release or a major milestone. Currently we > would have to send it manually. What would be useful is to have a single > place where we can feed in this information and get a automated way to > send it out to every relevant website via different mechanisms like a > submit API, form fill or even a email address. > > Would you be interested in creating a infrastructure for that or > alternatively acting as a gateway and sending the info manually? > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:44:06 +0100 > From: Francesco Ugolini > Subject: Re: Projects Wanted > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Message-ID: <46004796.6060204 at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ambassadors Project is wanting you ! > > If you want to give an help promoting Fedora around the world (and yes > in your city), you are welcomed, just ask to join the Ambassadors group > in account system. > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > Ryan Coleman ha scritto: > > Hello All, > > > > I have just joined the Fedora Wiki and wanted to know if there are any > > projects which i can help out on. I have a good linux experience and > > have been using fedora for about 2 years also i have been working on > > linux (RedHat) servers for about 3 years. > > > > If anyone has any ideas on anything i can help out on please email me at > > ryanc75 AT gmail.com and if i can i will help. > > > > Thanks > > Ryan > > > > -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:17:06 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Re: Projects Wanted > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Message-ID: <4600484A.5070902 at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > Ambassadors Project is wanting you ! > > > > If you want to give an help promoting Fedora around the world (and yes > > in your city), you are welcomed, just ask to join the Ambassadors group > > in account system. > > > > Best regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > He is already one. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RyanColeman > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > End of Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 33, Issue 22 > ***************************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Wed Mar 21 16:56:38 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon wrote: > Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote. We can set up polls if need > be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems unfair to > all the contributors and users we have who may not be subscribed here who > might have a say in the mascot of the community project. Voting... meh. Vote by doing something. If you like a particular mascot, send it to everyone you know. If we end up with an "official" mascot that The Proletariat Voted Upon For The Good Of The Community, I don't know that we're any better off. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:57:26 2007 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:57:26 -0700 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20070321165726.GA29302@gja.in> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon sent out 0.6K bytes to say: > Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote. We can set up polls if > need be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems > unfair to all the contributors and users we have who may not be > subscribed here who might have a say in the mascot of the community project. What gave you the impression there was a vote going on here? -- Tejas Dinkar http://gja.in From crazymulgogi at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 17:15:51 2007 From: crazymulgogi at gmail.com (hymno3) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:15:51 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1174497351.2658.1.camel@dhcppc0.lokaal> Op wo, 21-03-2007 te 12:56 -0400, schreef Greg Dekoenigsberg: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon wrote: > > > Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote. We can set up polls if need > > be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems unfair to > > all the contributors and users we have who may not be subscribed here who > > might have a say in the mascot of the community project. > > Voting... meh. > > Vote by doing something. If you like a particular mascot, send it to > everyone you know. > > If we end up with an "official" mascot that The Proletariat Voted Upon For > The Good Of The Community, I don't know that we're any better off. > > --g +1. From rerushg at homexpressway.net Wed Mar 21 17:38:25 2007 From: rerushg at homexpressway.net (rerushg at homexpressway.net) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FEDORA MASCOT Message-ID: <27306.165.166.0.80.1174498705.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.net> Quick opinion from a newbie (3 months) here. Maybe compromise is to add a picture to the site home page to warm to it up a bit. Would need to be "OK'd" but maybe not formally "approved" as anything more than just art. Change it every week or so. Maybe one will become popular. Also: Did someone say; "No hats!"? There is a blue hat in the header of the forum page. From paulds at bu.edu Wed Mar 21 18:11:22 2007 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:11:22 -0400 Subject: Yes, we have no hats. (was: Re: FEDORA MASCOT) In-Reply-To: <27306.165.166.0.80.1174498705.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.net> References: <27306.165.166.0.80.1174498705.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.net> Message-ID: <20070321181122.GA2942@jadzia.bu.edu> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 01:38:25PM -0400, rerushg at homexpressway.net wrote: > Also: Did someone say; "No hats!"? There is a blue hat in the header of > the forum page. I assume you are referring to fedoraforum.org, which has no affiliation with the Fedora Project, and is free to use whatever graphics they feel they can legally get away with. - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From tejasdinkar at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 18:49:23 2007 From: tejasdinkar at gmail.com (Tejas Dinkar) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:49:23 -0700 Subject: Yes, we have no hats. (was: Re: FEDORA MASCOT) In-Reply-To: <20070321181122.GA2942@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <27306.165.166.0.80.1174498705.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.net> <20070321181122.GA2942@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20070321184923.GA30840@gja.in> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Paul Stauffer sent out 0.6K bytes to say: > I assume you are referring to fedoraforum.org, which has no affiliation with > the Fedora Project, and is free to use whatever graphics they feel they can > legally get away with. I don't think that is _stricly_ true. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=50704 But they are pretty much a seperate, independant entity. -- Tejas Dinkar http://gja.in From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Wed Mar 21 19:58:50 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:58:50 -0600 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <27306.165.166.0.80.1174498705.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.net> References: <27306.165.166.0.80.1174498705.squirrel@webmail2.homexpressway.n et> Message-ID: <46018E7A.1090808@prodigy.net.mx> rerushg at homexpressway.net escribi?: > Quick opinion from a newbie (3 months) here. > Maybe compromise is to add a picture to the site home page to warm to it > up a bit. > Would need to be "OK'd" but maybe not formally "approved" as anything more > than just art. > Change it every week or so. Maybe one will become popular. > > Also: Did someone say; "No hats!"? There is a blue hat in the header of > the forum page. > > www.fedoraforum.org is not the "official" forum for Fedora (though many of us use it quite extensively), the site is not endorsed by, supported by, approved by or anything-else-by Red Hat nor the Fedora Foundation. If there was a problem with that fact, I'm sure Red Hat and Fedora people will let the site administrators know and ask them to remove the image (if need be) From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 00:08:06 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:08:06 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> On 3/19/07, Alex Maier wrote: > Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a > long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists > now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional > imagery that will end up diluting the whole image. > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html I undestand that it must be annoying to go through the same discussion again and again. On the other side, there is a high interest in the subject and it may be worth to be rediscussed. In order not to redo the same old arguments for or against a mascot and to avoid that several people have to read through a hundred emails it woud be very useful if someone who discussed this subject last year could make a wikipage with the major arguments and why in the end the decision was made against the mascot so that we can move on from this point. Mirjam PS: ... by now I'd favourise a goat-derivation: the chamois ;-) From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 00:22:11 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:22:11 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> Hum, maybe my mail is already obsolete, while we're talking, the marketing team is already acting: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot Cheers, Mirjam From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 22 03:56:14 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:26:14 +0530 Subject: The Fedora Desktop User Guide needs some editing (Linux.com) Message-ID: <4601FE5E.8050005@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/03/13/1919208 Ongoing discussions in fedora-docs list to do "some editing" Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 22 06:46:29 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:46:29 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> Mirjam W?ckerlin wrote: > Hum, maybe my mail is already obsolete, while we're talking, the > marketing team is already acting: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot This is the Art team making some initial steps. Even if we don't get a mascot in the end, we at least spend some quality time doing what we like (drawing). It can't see any harm in it. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 08:29:24 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:29:24 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703220129p62664d36p20c8a1f328da7792@mail.gmail.com> On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Mirjam W?ckerlin wrote: > > Hum, maybe my mail is already obsolete, while we're talking, the > > marketing team is already acting: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot > > This is the Art team making some initial steps. > Even if we don't get a mascot in the end, we at least spend some quality > time doing what we like (drawing). It can't see any harm in it. what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e. " http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bee1_n.svg " -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But that is only a rough sketch. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 08:50:39 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:50:39 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <46023FE6.8050003@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> <8e1ee2a30703220129p62664d36p20c8a1f328da7792@mail.gmail.com> <46023FE6.8050003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703220150g3391ef6fuc4f22ad99e3483c5@mail.gmail.com> On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > > > what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e. > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bee1_n.svg > > Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet is calligraphic tools comes with Inkscape or you using external? can you name that tool as well, btw, i like your free hand art :-D not required, you can use just a mouse). But that is only a rough sketch. > > -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 22 09:31:02 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:31:02 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703220150g3391ef6fuc4f22ad99e3483c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> <8e1ee2a30703220129p62664d36p20c8a1f328da7792@mail.gmail.com> <46023FE6.8050003@nicubunu.ro> <8e1ee2a30703220150g3391ef6fuc4f22ad99e3483c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46024CD6.9090801@nicubunu.ro> Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > On 3/22/07, *Nicu Buculei* wrote: > Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > > > what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e. > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bee1_n.svg > > > Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet is > > calligraphic tools comes with Inkscape or you using external? can you > name that tool as well, btw, i like your free hand art :-D Yes, is one of the basic tools in Inkscape, along with freehand lines and bezier curves. Start Inkscape and go in the menu to Help > Tutorials > Inkscape: Calligraphy Another reading source is http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-Creating.html#Paths-Calligraphy If you have more questions on the subject, let's move the discussion on a more appropriate place. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 09:35:20 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:35:20 +0100 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <2afa92000703220235g2c338612g3da03de7f8418bb3@mail.gmail.com> On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > This is the Art team making some initial steps. > Even if we don't get a mascot in the end, we at least spend some quality > time doing what we like (drawing). It can't see any harm in it. Me neither, I'm glad that the Art Team is doing so. What I wanted to say was that we're "just" talking - I like the principle of getting things done immediately. Mirjam From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 09:48:01 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:48:01 +0200 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <46024CD6.9090801@nicubunu.ro> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211708y4282d264h37de123ef60968d1@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703211722p2b252d13gb8d246327102c81f@mail.gmail.com> <46022645.3000002@nicubunu.ro> <8e1ee2a30703220129p62664d36p20c8a1f328da7792@mail.gmail.com> <46023FE6.8050003@nicubunu.ro> <8e1ee2a30703220150g3391ef6fuc4f22ad99e3483c5@mail.gmail.com> <46024CD6.9090801@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703220248w1a76c36dv9edfbec3d7ed1628@mail.gmail.com> On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > On 3/22/07, *Nicu Buculei* wrote: > > Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > > > > > what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e. > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bee1_n.svg > > < > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bee1_n.svg > > > > > > Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet > is > > > > calligraphic tools comes with Inkscape or you using external? can you > > name that tool as well, btw, i like your free hand art :-D > > Yes, is one of the basic tools in Inkscape, along with freehand lines > and bezier curves. > > Start Inkscape and go in the menu to Help > Tutorials > Inkscape: > Calligraphy > > Another reading source is > > http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-Creating.html#Paths-Calligraphy excellent, in fact i wanted to do some stuff in calligraphy, it will help me alot. If you have more questions on the subject, let's move the discussion on > a more appropriate place. -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caillon at redhat.com Thu Mar 22 16:27:12 2007 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:27:12 -0400 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <20070321165726.GA29302@gja.in> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <45FCE515.3090701@projetofedora.org> <1174293528.3928.7.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <5bddd8fd0703190148rec21d5fv1c226daf169afe7f@mail.gmail.com> <1174294370.30851.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174261693.2672.6.camel@dhcppc1.lokaal> <1174295144.30851.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FE5694.9070809@nicubunu.ro> <4601633F.10609@redhat.com> <20070321165726.GA29302@gja.in> Message-ID: <4602AE60.4080807@redhat.com> Tejas Dinkar wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon sent out 0.6K bytes to say: >> Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote. We can set up polls if >> need be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems >> unfair to all the contributors and users we have who may not be >> subscribed here who might have a say in the mascot of the community project. > > What gave you the impression there was a vote going on here? Did you read the mails I quoted? Counting the number of people who agree with a given point is a vote or poll. Whether it was sanctioned is not relevant to the fact that at least one person was collecting votes for a given proposal. From tcallawa at redhat.com Fri Mar 23 21:56:28 2007 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:56:28 -0500 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174371391.11269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <1174371391.11269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174686988.5072.36.camel@1cc-dhcp-162.media.mit.edu> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:16 +0900, Naoki wrote: > I'm still digging the goat because it's sort of like the Gnu > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildebeest). > > They live in almost any environment, in harsh conditions, they are > sturdy and reliable, eat anything, and have horns. > > The best argument against so far was that it is already the mascot for > LiveJournal : http://www.livejournal.com/site/goat.bml Goats are rather well known in America for being trash eaters. They have a propensity to go stiff-legged and faint whenever startled. Also, all goats are infested with stomach worms. I think the frog would be a much better mascot. They live in virtually all parts of the world, come in many colorful varieties, are versatile (they can live in the water and on land), and easily recognized. Of course I'm biased here, but I think a frog would make an awesome mascot. :) ~spot From gdk at redhat.com Fri Mar 23 21:54:42 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: <1174686988.5072.36.camel@1cc-dhcp-162.media.mit.edu> References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <1174371391.11269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174686988.5072.36.camel@1cc-dhcp-162.media.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > Goats are rather well known in America for being trash eaters. They have > a propensity to go stiff-legged and faint whenever startled. Also, all > goats are infested with stomach worms. > > I think the frog would be a much better mascot. They live in virtually > all parts of the world, come in many colorful varieties, are versatile > (they can live in the water and on land), and easily recognized. I think that we're limiting ourselves unnecessarily to actual animals. I propose munging some animals together to see what we get. I'm a big fan of the Fedora bear-walrus myself. Chester the Fedora Bear-Walrus. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 26 06:06:35 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:06:35 +0300 Subject: FEDORA MASCOT In-Reply-To: References: <45FCB586.5020803@projetofedora.org> <45FE3206.4020900@fedoraproject.org> <1174313601.5369.1.camel@trauco> <45FE9D59.6050305@redhat.com> <5bddd8fd0703190740v2de36f60mb79d9576011dff6b@mail.gmail.com> <45FEAFCE.9040801@kanarip.com> <7f617d270703190850h41e9d59bt1fe8d9e6257f18ca@mail.gmail.com> <45FEB375.8030905@nicubunu.ro> <7f617d270703191019q42a0aa93qdd2b8ff3e0bfe695@mail.gmail.com> <1174371391.11269.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174686988.5072.36.camel@1cc-dhcp-162.media.mit.edu> Message-ID: <460762EB.1050501@nicubunu.ro> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > I think that we're limiting ourselves unnecessarily to actual animals. We are not limiting ourselves with anything, we have sketched even a couple of aliens: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot > I propose munging some animals together to see what we get. I'm a big > fan of the Fedora bear-walrus myself. Chester the Fedora Bear-Walrus. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 28 22:38:14 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:38:14 -0700 Subject: Fedora News Project is Looking for Writers Message-ID: <369bce3b0703281538r4333da03x2f9e5b11c958ecb1@mail.gmail.com> Currently Fedora News Project[1] is looking for two or more writers for up-coming-issue of Fedora Weekly News. Selected writers are expected to pick out the several major topics discussed in that week from following mailing lists and summarized them in a few paragraph.: * Development Section: fedora-devel-list, fedora-extras-list and fedora-maintainers-list * Documentation Section: fedora-docs-list * Events and Meetings: fedora-ambassadors-list and fedora-marketing-list These paragraphs will be edited by our editors and eventually published in our next issue of Fedora Weekly News. If you're interested in this project, please contact me as soon as possible. Regards, [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung