From linux.rafa at gmail.com Wed Apr 1 02:35:52 2009 From: linux.rafa at gmail.com (Rafael Gomes) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:35:52 -0300 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <49D26D7F.9070507@redhat.com> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> <49D26D7F.9070507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7256ccd50903311935o1f1b23e8q9a3dae5d1028c0a1@mail.gmail.com> I get in our list of marketing from Brazil this article[1] and I already put in our wiki[2]. This is the better thing to do, correct? [1] - http://idgnow.uol.com.br/computacao_corporativa/2009/03/31/versao-beta-do-fedora-11-inova-em-seguranca-e-desenvolvimento/ [2] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/F11#Fedora_11_Press_Reports Thanks Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI Embaixador Fedora LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772 Fedora Talk : 5103520 III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da Bahia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Wed Apr 1 04:07:18 2009 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:07:18 +0800 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49D2E876.2070400@gmail.com> Rafael Gomes wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am from Brazil and I am thinking about an improvement to our > Announcement of new version. > > What do all you thing if we separate the new features for groups of > interest? Same as the Announcement of Gnome. Take a look: > > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/index.html.en#rnusers > > IMO It is better than we have now. +1 But not to lengthy, just concise and able to highlight the main important features will be a plus. -- Best Regards, Jason Singapore Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Apr 1 06:47:10 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:47:10 +0200 Subject: 2009-03-31 meeting log In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1238568430.2888.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 00:16 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-03-31-marketing.html > I'm working on press kits right now with my class, we should have 4 different kits targeted at different audiences (general, school, university, companies/state) by the end of the week. The only problem: they will be in French, and will need translation. Steven From yanstadel at googlemail.com Wed Apr 1 07:55:34 2009 From: yanstadel at googlemail.com (Yannik Stadelmaier) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:55:34 +0200 Subject: 2009-03-31 meeting log In-Reply-To: <1238568430.2888.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1238568430.2888.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49D31DF6.5090202@googlemail.com> Hi Steven, Is there any wiki-page or sth. like that aboout those press kits? What do they include? I had french for 6 years in school, so maybe i am able to translate it (or at least able to translate *some* content). greetings Yannik Steven Moix schrieb: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 00:16 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > >> http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-03-31-marketing.html >> >> > > I'm working on press kits right now with my class, we should have 4 > different kits targeted at different audiences (general, school, > university, companies/state) by the end of the week. The only problem: > they will be in French, and will need translation. > > Steven > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 1 16:32:14 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:32:14 -0400 Subject: French Press Kits WAS Re: 2009-03-31 meeting log In-Reply-To: <1238568430.2888.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1238568430.2888.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49D3970E.1010605@redhat.com> Okay, so how about I will wait until the end of the week and see what you have and maybe work with the translation team on putting things together. Meanwhile, is this up somewhere or do you have a list of contents? Jack Steven Moix wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 00:16 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > >> http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-03-31-marketing.html >> >> > > I'm working on press kits right now with my class, we should have 4 > different kits targeted at different audiences (general, school, > university, companies/state) by the end of the week. The only problem: > they will be in French, and will need translation. > > Steven > > From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Apr 1 18:37:57 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:37:57 +0200 Subject: French Press Kits WAS Re: 2009-03-31 meeting log In-Reply-To: <49D3970E.1010605@redhat.com> References: <1238568430.2888.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49D3970E.1010605@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1238611077.2909.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 12:32 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Okay, so how about I will wait until the end of the week and see what > you have and maybe work with the translation team on putting things > together. Meanwhile, is this up somewhere or do you have a list of > contents? It's not advanced enough to be available right now, but we have 4 press kits planned, each one has a "common" part with generalities about Fedora, then each press kit has a specific content targeting a specific audience. The design will be done with Scribus as far as I know, the form-factor is an A3 paper sheet cut in half (in the length) and folded in 3. This is to allow ambassadors to print them themselves. So we will have 6 faces in total, which will contain: - The front cover with the Fedora logo - A general description (the common part) - A place to put a CD/USB and instructions on how to use it - A page with screenshots concerning the specific target audience - A page with generic Fedora screenshots - The back cover with contact informations It looks like that: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/dscn2491.jpg Steven From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Apr 1 18:40:10 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:40:10 +0200 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1238611210.2909.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 20:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Better question then: are people actively looking for these sorts of > stories, and where will we aggregate them? It usually takes 1-3 days for the stories to get published. It started today for me. So calm down :p Steven From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 1 21:22:41 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:22:41 -0400 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <1238611210.2909.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> <1238611210.2909.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49D3DB21.2070609@redhat.com> Ha! I didn't say that, Max did! Jack Steven Moix wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 20:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > >> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> Better question then: are people actively looking for these sorts of >> stories, and where will we aggregate them? >> > > It usually takes 1-3 days for the stories to get published. It started > today for me. So calm down :p > > Steven > > From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 1 21:53:57 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:53:57 -0400 Subject: I thought we had more ideas... Message-ID: <49D3E275.1090106@redhat.com> Hey All, There has been very little activity in the last week on the release slogan: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F11_Release_Slogan. I thought we had more ideas. I know some people are shy because they don't think their idea is good enough, but please, post up what you have. If no one has anything else, I'm going to make the submission deadline this coming Tuesday by the marketing meeting and then things will be in the hands of others! Thanks, Jack From indigo196 at rochester.rr.com Thu Apr 2 04:02:56 2009 From: indigo196 at rochester.rr.com (indigo196 at rochester.rr.com) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 0:02:56 -0400 Subject: I thought we had more ideas... In-Reply-To: <49D3E275.1090106@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090402040256.MYB4C.23824.root@hrndva-web24-z01> I will give it some thought... and reply by this weekend. Thanks for prodding me. :-) ---- Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey All, > > There has been very little activity in the last week on the release > slogan: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F11_Release_Slogan. I > thought we had more ideas. I know some people are shy because they > don't think their idea is good enough, but please, post up what you > have. If no one has anything else, I'm going to make the submission > deadline this coming Tuesday by the marketing meeting and then things > will be in the hands of others! > > Thanks, > Jack > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From giallu at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 07:05:15 2009 From: giallu at gmail.com (Gianluca Sforna) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:05:15 +0200 Subject: Fedora 11 beta bares chest to all-comers Message-ID: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/fedora_11_beta/ -- Gianluca Sforna http://morefedora.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna From steven.moix at axianet.ch Thu Apr 2 08:32:33 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:32:33 +0200 Subject: Fedora 11 beta bares chest to all-comers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1238661153.5810.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:05 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/fedora_11_beta/ > Fine, I added it to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/F11 From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 2 13:02:56 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:32:56 +0530 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49D4B780.30404@fedoraproject.org> Rafael Gomes wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am from Brazil and I am thinking about an improvement to our > Announcement of new version. > > What do all you thing if we separate the new features for groups of > interest? Same as the Announcement of Gnome. Take a look: > > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/index.html.en#rnusers > > IMO It is better than we have now. Are you willing to contribute? We have been writing release summaries for a similar audience Example http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/ReleaseSummary Rahul From rafaelgomes at projetofedora.org Thu Apr 2 17:43:15 2009 From: rafaelgomes at projetofedora.org (Rafael Gomes) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:43:15 -0300 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <49D4B780.30404@fedoraproject.org> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <49D4B780.30404@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7256ccd50904021043w56621f18xdddd06669d544d3d@mail.gmail.com> Rahul, I wanna contribute. I just wanna know if it is a good thing to do after a good discussion. What all you think about this? I can help with it. My english isn't good enough, but I will have help from my private english teacher. 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Rahul From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 02:55:42 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:55:42 -0800 Subject: Linux game console ready to ship In-Reply-To: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> References: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910904021955r3b8995i6a80e254dac5f249@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5134160105.html > > "Envizions announced that it is taking orders for an open-source Linux > gaming system, and will start shipping beta units to game developers, > resellers, and software partners on April 10. The EVO Smart Console is > based on a 2.4GHz Athlon, and includes a Fedora-based Linux distro." whoa! -jef From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 03:10:55 2009 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:10:55 +0800 Subject: Linux game console ready to ship In-Reply-To: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> References: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49D57E3F.8000606@gmail.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5134160105.html > > "Envizions announced that it is taking orders for an open-source Linux > gaming system, and will start shipping beta units to game developers, > resellers, and software partners on April 10. The EVO Smart Console is > based on a 2.4GHz Athlon, and includes a Fedora-based Linux distro." > > Rahul > > Wow, finally a dream came true, LINUX powered gaming console! -- Best Regards, Jason Singapore Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From mohaas05 at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 04:08:16 2009 From: mohaas05 at gmail.com (Kamin Horvath) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:08:16 -0400 Subject: Linux game console ready to ship In-Reply-To: <49D57E3F.8000606@gmail.com> References: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> <49D57E3F.8000606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9C2F18F2-5A2E-4F1E-9A43-6B2BB2DC8744@gmail.com> Someone else tried this before. Basically it failed because it didn't have the support of developers. I wouldn't be surprised if this one did too. Kamin Horvath Fedora Ambassadors USA On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Jason Benedict Low wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi >> >> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5134160105.html >> >> "Envizions announced that it is taking orders for an open-source >> Linux >> gaming system, and will start shipping beta units to game developers, >> resellers, and software partners on April 10. The EVO Smart Console >> is >> based on a 2.4GHz Athlon, and includes a Fedora-based Linux distro." >> >> Rahul >> >> > Wow, finally a dream came true, LINUX powered gaming console! > > -- > Best Regards, > Jason > Singapore Fedora Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low > VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org > ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 06:41:00 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:11:00 +0530 Subject: Linux game console ready to ship In-Reply-To: <9C2F18F2-5A2E-4F1E-9A43-6B2BB2DC8744@gmail.com> References: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> <49D57E3F.8000606@gmail.com> <9C2F18F2-5A2E-4F1E-9A43-6B2BB2DC8744@gmail.com> Message-ID: > > >>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5134160105.html >>> >>> "Envizions announced that it is taking orders for an open-source Linux >>> gaming system, and will start shipping beta units to game developers, >>> resellers, and software partners on April 10. The EVO Smart Console is >>> based on a 2.4GHz Athlon, and includes a Fedora-based Linux distro." >>> >>> Rahul >>> >>> >>> Wow, finally a dream came true, LINUX powered gaming console! >> >> -- > > i have always had a dream that one day linux might also have games like the windows... but usually the linux games are not like the others (eg: crisis, gta) is it possible for linux to have these kind of games.. Gaming is the best idea of marketting (60% of people using windows, does it for gamings) I also thought it would be great if the gaming companies like the Electronic arts, ubisoft could create games for linux (atleast a linux support for the games they create like the NFS) Then most of the people would migrate to linux.... i still dream about these hope to see it one day -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gaming is the > best idea of marketting (60% of people using windows, does it for gamings) > I also thought it would be great if the gaming companies like the > Electronic arts, ubisoft could create games for linux (atleast a linux > support for the games they create like the NFS) > Then most of the people would migrate to linux.... i still dream about > these hope to see it one day Electronics Arts or any other game company won't port games for Linux unless there is a real commercial demand. Look up the cost for producing a modern 3d shooter. It goes up to over 20 million dollars and has something like a TB of content. This is unlikely to happen without a huge desktop share leading to a proportional customer demand or some vendor paying these companies outright to get a good port running. Sorry, there are no easy answers, here. Rahul From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 07:17:54 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:47:54 +0530 Subject: Linux game console ready to ship In-Reply-To: <49D5B4D5.4020402@fedoraproject.org> References: <49D543FF.10100@fedoraproject.org> <49D57E3F.8000606@gmail.com> <9C2F18F2-5A2E-4F1E-9A43-6B2BB2DC8744@gmail.com> <49D5B4D5.4020402@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > > > Electronics Arts or any other game company won't port games for Linux > unless there is a real commercial demand. Look up the cost for producing > a modern 3d shooter. It goes up to over 20 million dollars and has > something like a TB of content. This is unlikely to happen without a > huge desktop share leading to a proportional customer demand or some > vendor paying these companies outright to get a good port running. > Sorry, there are no easy answers, here. > yes, it is not possible unless there is a real commercial demand. If there is any other way to make this possible then there would be a revolution in the linux demand ( running these 3d games in wine is trouble-some) i also thought of creating some great emulator, which would make this possible... (like the dos-box, other game emulators) Which would enable people to install these games .exe at ease (unlike the UI in wine) and play it safely Just an idea -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmbabich at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 09:13:54 2009 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:13:54 +0300 Subject: Marketing Suggestion for F11 Launch Message-ID: <9d2c731f0904030213i79e10c7ey4c2061e8db62c383@mail.gmail.com> To All: I listen regularly to Leo Laporte's This Week in Tech (TWiT) at http://twit.tv. I recently started listening to a companion show, FLOSS Weekly, at http://twit.tv/FLOSS. The show is a well-produced podcast and has a large listening audience. The hosts, Leo and Randal Schwartz, are actively seeking principal members of FLOSS projects. They emphasize that it should be a leader within the Fedora team. Guests are usually interviewed via Skype. The contact email is merlyn at stonehenge.com. This sounds like an excellent opportunity for Paul Frields or another leader within the Fedora Project to publicize the upcoming release of Fedora 11. There appear to be openings on the show aound F11's release date. For your consideration, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project From stickster at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 11:35:03 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:35:03 -0400 Subject: Marketing Suggestion for F11 Launch In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0904030213i79e10c7ey4c2061e8db62c383@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d2c731f0904030213i79e10c7ey4c2061e8db62c383@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090403113503.GB31524@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 12:13:54PM +0300, John Babich wrote: > To All: > > I listen regularly to Leo Laporte's This Week in Tech (TWiT) at http://twit.tv. > > I recently started listening to a companion show, FLOSS Weekly, at > http://twit.tv/FLOSS. The show is a well-produced podcast and has a > large listening audience. > > The hosts, Leo and Randal Schwartz, are actively seeking principal > members of FLOSS projects. They emphasize that it should be a leader > within the Fedora team. Guests are usually interviewed via Skype. > > The contact email is merlyn at stonehenge.com. > > This sounds like an excellent opportunity for Paul Frields or another > leader within the Fedora Project to publicize the upcoming release of > Fedora 11. There appear to be openings on the show aound F11's release > date. Thanks John, I've made a note of this and I'm going to get in contact with them. I've listened to this podcast a few times and it is very well done! I do wish they *used* FLOSS for their broadcast instead of Skype, but I suppose I'll install Skype if that's what it takes. ("We've established what you are, madam, now we're merely haggling over price.") -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cross) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:50 -0600 Subject: Despirate need for copies In-Reply-To: <7e9ad95b0904031349r4e10d3e3g90d0caa2a734b2f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e9ad95b0904031349r4e10d3e3g90d0caa2a734b2f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Hlompho Mota wrote: > I have an increasing demand in people that want to get on Fedora on my side > of the planet. But Due 2 slow internet on this side, We cant exactlly > download copies. if anyone can help, I am in need of a copy of CD's and > DVD's as soon as possible. > I think it will be more easy to give you advice on how to get those copies, if you make more evident where is your side of the planet. If you are near by my side of the planet (Nicaragua), I will sure send you come copies. Best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 5 05:38:46 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:08:46 +0530 Subject: First look: Fedora 11 beta shows promise Message-ID: <49D843E6.3040009@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/04/first-look-fedora-11-beta-shows-promise.ars "Fedora 11, which is codenamed Leonidas, is scheduled for final release at the end of May. It will include several new features and noteworthy improvements, such as RPM 4.7, which will reduce the memory consumption of complex package activity, tighter integration of PackageKit, faster boot time with a target goal of 20 seconds, and reduced power consumption thanks to a major tuning effort." "All things considered, Fedora 11 progress looks good and the release is shaping up nicely. The developers are already looking to the future and have begun the process of drafting a schedule for Fedora 12, which could potentially arrive in October." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 5 05:53:39 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:23:39 +0530 Subject: Could somebody please resuscitate GNU/Linux? Message-ID: <49D84763.9080700@fedoraproject.org> Hi A critical look at marketing in some OS including a couple of Linux distros http://kablingy.ie/blog/2009/04/could-somebody-resuscitate-gnulinux-please/ Rahul From gerold at lugd.org Sun Apr 5 09:38:26 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:38:26 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Weekly News] Message-ID: <1238924306.5549.20.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> Hi everybody, please find below a text which arrived this week in my inbox from a German Linux Radio Station. In short words (translated) they asked me if it's possible to get somebody (or a group) who is willing to "announce" the FWN weekly in German in the radio of that Linux station in a five-minutes-cast. I know that there are a bunch of german speaking Ambassador who're only reading that list and I want to ask who will participate in that "new sub-Project" which I think is really new. Personally I think there should be a group of 5 to six people who are willing to work together, translate the FWN (maybe have some additional region informations) and record them to a hearable stream in the requested format and transfer that to the station. It is imho important that we fullfill that request, because it's important to be "heared" and we have the possibility to "show up" weekly in a 5 minutes session but "YES, we can ....!" ... instead of other Groups, Projects and Distributions which are not as organzied as the EMEA AMbassador and also Marketing Team. At the moment I have Christoph Wickert and Yannik Stadelmaier who are helping. Anybody else??? Waiting for your reply, also about your (additional) ideas Regards Gerold -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: S.Kemter > An: Gerold Kassube > Betreff: Re: Fedora Weekly News > Datum: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:29:26 +0200 > > Am Freitag, den 03.04.2009, 18:20 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > > wie stellst DU Dir das vor? > > Ganz einfach man nehme Mikro und Audacity erzeuge Mp3 lege dann > hinterher es bei RadioTux ins uploadverzeichnis. > > Muss da dann jemand vor Ort sein, per Telefon? > > nein bequem von jedem Ort der Welt aus > > > Was willst Du da haben; die "?bersetzung" der Original-FWNs? > > Deutsch sollte es sein, sonst m??ten wir es ja wieder dubben. Eine > Zusammenfassung des FWN, manches n?her erl?utert. in rund 5min > > > > Oder wie???? > > > > gruss > > > > Gerold > > > > mfg Sirko > > > > > > Am Freitag, den 03.04.2009, 14:32 +0200 schrieb S.Kemter: > > > Hallo Gerold, > > > > > > > > > Ich br?uchte mal Deine Hilfe. Ich suche f?r RadioTux ein oder mehrere > > > Ambasadors die die wichtigsten Punkte der FWN w?chentlich einsprechen > > > w?rden. > > > RadioTux macht das seit einiger Zeit bereits mit Suse aber wir wollen > > > allen Distributionen die M?glichkeit bieten. > > > An wen k?nnte ich mich da wenden? > > > > > > > > > mfg SIrko -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:41:55 -0400 Subject: Interview with Dimitris & Diego In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090406114155.GB8056@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 10:45:54PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > Right before Dimitris and Diego returned to Greece, we sat down and I > conducted a brief interview with them about Fedora Localization, > Transifex, and their various contributions to Fedora. > > The 15 minute interview is available here: > > http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/glezos-diegobz-20090403.ogg > > The total download size is only 9 MB. Please enjoy & share! Great work -- this was a fascinating interview. As soon as my voice has recovered from illness, I have a couple of these on deck to record and distribute as well. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Apr 7 13:59:10 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:59:10 +0200 Subject: French press kits Message-ID: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello all, Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on heavy paper. Steven From jaa at redhat.com Tue Apr 7 14:01:32 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:01:32 -0400 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49DB5CBC.1010601@redhat.com> Hey Steven, This is awesome. They are really spectacular!!! Are you able to post up the text you have on their either in original or translated form? Keep up all the awesome work, Jack Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > heavy paper. > > Steven > > From jaa at redhat.com Tue Apr 7 14:04:25 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:04:25 -0400 Subject: Meeting TODAY 2009.04.07 @ 21.00 UTC Message-ID: <49DB5D69.5020304@redhat.com> Hello All, Fedora Marketing Team Meeting When: Tuesday the 7th of April 2009 @ 21.00 UTC, remember this is now 5PM Eastern and 2PM Pacific, Also 23.00 CET. Where: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net What: Continuing work on the agenda, update on progress of press kits, deadline for slogan entries, faces of fedora update, etc. Gearing up for preview and final release. See you all there! Jack From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Tue Apr 7 14:05:04 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:05:04 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6c7685939b310bb572c7ea82b9c849ef@localhost> On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:59:10 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > heavy paper. > > Steven Impressive !!!!! Congrats :) Thomas From pingou at pingoured.fr Tue Apr 7 14:14:38 2009 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:14:38 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239113678.32051.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 15:59 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > heavy paper. Really nice :) P.Yves From mostafa.daneshvar at gmail.com Tue Apr 7 14:13:22 2009 From: mostafa.daneshvar at gmail.com (Mostafa Daneshvar) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:43:22 +0430 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 15:59 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > heavy paper. > > Steven > Wow, That's GREAT. Well-done :) Mostafa Daneshvar Fedora Ambassador Iran https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mostafadaneshvar http://mostafadaneshvar.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Well-done :) Note, for those who didn't know this, that this is a teamwork with my class, it's not my design. The texts will come later. Steven From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Tue Apr 7 14:23:38 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:23:38 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <34da3475caffbe8dbbb893043e770fb6@localhost> On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:21:44 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 18:43 +0430, Mostafa Daneshvar wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 15:59 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: >> > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG >> > >> > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the >> > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed >> > on >> > heavy paper. >> > >> > Steven >> > >> Wow, That's GREAT. Well-done :) > > Note, for those who didn't know this, that this is a teamwork with my > class, it's not my design. The texts will come later. > > Steven Don't hesitate to send them love ! :) Thomas From shakthimaan at gmail.com Tue Apr 7 14:31:01 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:01:01 +0530 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Steven Moix wrote: | Note, for those who didn't know this, that this is a teamwork with my | class, it's not my design. The texts will come later. \-- Excellent work! Please mention their names. Credit must be given to all of them! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 7 14:48:38 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:48:38 -0400 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090407144838.GA23842@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:59:10PM +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > heavy paper. This is really spectacular, Steven! Are the sources for the designs posted anywhere? It might be useful for us to make the interior text available for translation to other languages. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From armel.kermorvant at orange.fr Tue Apr 7 16:17:30 2009 From: armel.kermorvant at orange.fr (Armel Kermorvant) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:17:30 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi Steven, Very good job!! Cordialement Armel Le 7 avr. 09 ? 15:59, Steven Moix a ?crit : > > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be > printed on > heavy paper. > > Steven > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > From luya at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 7 17:36:02 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:36:02 -0700 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49DB8F02.9000502@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Steven Moix a ?crit : | Hello all, | | Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: | http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG | | It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the | middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on | heavy paper. | | Steven | Nice layout. Make sure to take off widow on "r?seaux" because it looks akward that way. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknbjv4ACgkQa10Jb0NOz+EtQwCfdC9XVA32AZCfO2mSjYKwWpv5 zIUAn05FI+9yuycLCjyO3W7465HHi30L =FFGC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Apr 7 18:33:35 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:33:35 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <20090407144838.GA23842@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090407144838.GA23842@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239129215.4218.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 10:48 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:59:10PM +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > > heavy paper. > > This is really spectacular, Steven! Are the sources for the designs > posted anywhere? It might be useful for us to make the interior text > available for translation to other languages. They will be available Friday, we still have to work on them until then... Steven From opossum1er at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 7 21:16:12 2009 From: opossum1er at fedoraproject.org (Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er)) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:16:12 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239138972.3325.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mardi 07 avril 2009 ? 15:59 +0200, Steven Moix a ?crit : > Hello all, > > Here is the first picture of an almost finished French press kit: > http://www.alphatek.info/divers/DSC00084.JPG > > It was designed for Live CDs and has a little support for them in the > middle, the final version won't have the white borders and be printed on > heavy paper. > > Steven > Awesome Steven, really. :D ++ -- Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er) French fedora ambassador opossum1er at fedoraproject.org GPG fingerprint : 1E38 D153 476F C831 0CF6 0A6A 2E7A 992F 8958 8851 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello all, Some months ago, we all voted to hold our IRC meetings at 21h UTC. This was perfectly fine for the continental-European people during the winter (we are at UTC+1) because the meetings were held at 22h. Now let's introduce Daylight Savings Time (DST) to the party...it adds another hour in the summer, which brings the meeting to 23h. It's clearly too late for me... R?sum?: Winter: meeting at 22h Summer: meeting at 23h So my question is...can we hold the meetings at 21h UTC in the winter and at 20h UTC in the summer? It would have the effect to keep a constant meeting time (22h) during the whole year for us... Any comments? Steven From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Apr 8 17:42:03 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:42:03 +0200 Subject: some talking points for FEL Message-ID: <50baabb30904081042r65ce1696ofb9c43c5004a785c@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, It was requested several times, - what items should one talk about FEL and - how to seduce new FEL users. Below you will find 3 blog posts that explain briefly FEL and its goal. You will also find 2 images on these urls which you can use for your fedora presentations. #1 FEL's targetted users http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fels-solutions-for-design-centre.html #2 Where FEL stands with respect to the commercial world and to R&D departments: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fel-position-paper-for-national-science.html #3 FEL's roadmap and what defines it http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-we-shaped-fel.html Happy Marketing, Kind regards, Chitlesh From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 8 18:04:59 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul Frields) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:04:59 -0400 Subject: Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC? In-Reply-To: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > Some months ago, we all voted to hold our IRC meetings at 21h UTC. This > was perfectly fine for the continental-European people during the winter > (we are at UTC+1) because the meetings were held at 22h. Now let's > introduce Daylight Savings Time (DST) to the party...it adds another > hour in the summer, which brings the meeting to 23h. It's clearly too > late for me... > > R?sum?: > Winter: meeting at 22h > Summer: meeting at 23h > > So my question is...can we hold the meetings at 21h UTC in the winter > and at 20h UTC in the summer? It would have the effect to keep a > constant meeting time (22h) during the whole year for us... > > Any comments? I've always thought that (1) teams should be free to set their meetings either at strict UTC, or following DST however they can agree; and (2) computers work in UTC, and humans work on wall clocks. My $DAYJOB schedule, for example, @3:00pm on a Thursday doesn't change suddenly in the spring and fall to accommodate UTC. The same meeting I had at 3:00pm the week before stays at 3:00pm and moves according to UTC. So in short, I'm for staying on human time. The only time we have to worry about a difference is when only some people are on DST and not others. Then there's a chance for confusion, so the meeting page should set the policy. Paul From anton.cost at gmail.com Wed Apr 8 18:23:04 2009 From: anton.cost at gmail.com (Konstantinos Antonakoglou) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:23:04 +0300 Subject: some talking points for FEL In-Reply-To: <50baabb30904081042r65ce1696ofb9c43c5004a785c@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30904081042r65ce1696ofb9c43c5004a785c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1239214984.4179.35.camel@KOSTAS-PC> Chitlesh, this is very helpful! I was just going to ask for this as I will present FEL on May here in Greece at FossComm 2009[1]. Thanks! [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Fosscomm_2009 On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 19:42 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > > It was requested several times, > - what items should one talk about FEL and > - how to seduce new FEL users. > > Below you will find 3 blog posts that explain briefly FEL and its > goal. You will also find 2 images on these urls which you can use for > your fedora presentations. > > #1 > FEL's targetted users > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fels-solutions-for-design-centre.html > > #2 > Where FEL stands with respect to the commercial world and to R&D departments: > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fel-position-paper-for-national-science.html > > #3 > FEL's roadmap and what defines it > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-we-shaped-fel.html > > Happy Marketing, > Kind regards, > Chitlesh > -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B constanton @ Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks! > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Fosscomm_2009 > > On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 19:42 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > It was requested several times, > > - what items should one talk about FEL and > > - how to seduce new FEL users. > > > > Below you will find 3 blog posts that explain briefly FEL and its > > goal. You will also find 2 images on these urls which you can use for > > your fedora presentations. > > > > #1 > > FEL's targetted users > > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fels-solutions-for-design-centre.html > > > > #2 > > Where FEL stands with respect to the commercial world and to R&D > departments: > > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fel-position-paper-for-national-science.html > > > > #3 > > FEL's roadmap and what defines it > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-we-shaped-fel.html > > > > Happy Marketing, > > Kind regards, > > Chitlesh > > > -- > Konstantinos Antonakoglou > PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B > > constanton @ Freenode > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 8 21:29:37 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:29:37 -0400 Subject: Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC? In-Reply-To: References: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49DD1741.2090308@redhat.com> Paul Frields wrote: > I've always thought that (1) teams should be free to set their > meetings either at strict UTC, or following DST however they can > agree; and (2) computers work in UTC, and humans work on wall clocks. > My $DAYJOB schedule, for example, @3:00pm on a Thursday doesn't change > suddenly in the spring and fall to accommodate UTC. The same meeting > I had at 3:00pm the week before stays at 3:00pm and moves according to > UTC. > > So in short, I'm for staying on human time. The only time we have to > worry about a difference is when only some people are on DST and not > others. Then there's a chance for confusion, so the meeting page > should set the policy. > > > For what its worth, IMHO we should go by regular, non-UTC fixed, because I wouldnt want to be at a meeting which was at 23:00. Jack From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 8 21:32:19 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:32:19 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC? In-Reply-To: <49DD1741.2090308@redhat.com> References: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49DD1741.2090308@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > For what its worth, IMHO we should go by regular, non-UTC fixed, > because I wouldnt want to be at a meeting which was at 23:00. We basically chose our 5pm eastern time meeting because that was when Ian and Mo could make it to the meetings. At the time we chose it, that meant 10pm in central europe. Now europe has moved ahead an hour, but the 5pm eastern time problem remains. --Max From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 8 21:36:28 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:36:28 -0400 Subject: Happy Holidays and My Schedule Message-ID: <49DD18DC.10208@redhat.com> Hello All, I would like to wish everyone a happy holiday season. Thursday and Friday are Passover and Friday is Good Friday and Sunday is Easter. I personally will not be around, on the computer or phone until sometime this weekend, lots of family stuff going on! If you need anything you can try asking Steven Moix, Ewan Luca, Paul Frields or Max Spevack in my absence if you need something done urgently. Otherwise, please enjoy the holidays and all the festivities taking place. Our meeting next week will take place as usual, hopefully at a new time, which is not fixed to UTC. I'll leave Steven Moix responsible for tracking that in my absence. See his thread. Thanks, Jack From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 11 12:42:31 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:12:31 +0530 Subject: April tribute to the Fedora Project art team Message-ID: <49E09037.2030806@fedoraproject.org> Hi Interview with the Fedora Art community members http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?topic=705.msg5198 Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 11 12:50:04 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:20:04 +0530 Subject: Tutorial: Build Your Own Linux Distro Message-ID: <49E091FC.9080001@fedoraproject.org> Hi step by step guide on using revisor to customize and create your own distribution derived from Fedora http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3020 "We're used to thinking of Linux distributions being set in stone. They're either KDE or Gnome, use a certain kernel and bundle certain applications. But this doesn't have to be the case. If you find yourself making the same adjustments each time you install a new distribution, it's worth creating your own customised version. Revisor is a tool that lets you do just this, and in this tutorial, we'll show you how..." Rahul From affix at FedoraProject.org Sat Apr 11 13:41:40 2009 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:41:40 +0100 Subject: Tutorial: Build Your Own Linux Distro In-Reply-To: <49E091FC.9080001@fedoraproject.org> References: <49E091FC.9080001@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hey Rahul, This is a pretty indepth tutorial :) a very nice find :) On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > step by step guide on using revisor to customize and create your own > distribution derived from Fedora > > http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3020 > > "We're used to thinking of Linux distributions being set in stone. > They're either KDE or Gnome, use a certain kernel and bundle certain > applications. But this doesn't have to be the case. If you find yourself > making the same adjustments each time you install a new distribution, > it's worth creating your own customised version. Revisor is a tool that > lets you do just this, and in this tutorial, we'll show you how..." > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Keiran Smith - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - - Free Software Foundation Associate - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Sat Apr 11 16:03:18 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:03:18 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239465798.10038.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 20:01 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Steven Moix wrote: > | Note, for those who didn't know this, that this is a teamwork with my > | class, it's not my design. The texts will come later. > > Excellent work! Please mention their names. Credit must be given to all of them! The names of the culprits are on http://www.alphatek.info/2009/04/11/bye-bye-heig-vd/ :) So, now I have the final versions of the kits, there is only one problem (and don't laugh): the guy who made them had the beta version of Windows 7 and Scribus was just unusable on it (+ a serious lack of time to learn Scribus). So he used Adobe InDesign CS4 instead, and the press kits ave this format now... I'm downloading the trial version right now in my Vista VM to see if I can do something about that. Steven From steven.moix at axianet.ch Sat Apr 11 16:11:39 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:11:39 +0200 Subject: Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC? In-Reply-To: References: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49DD1741.2090308@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1239466299.10329.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 23:32 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > > For what its worth, IMHO we should go by regular, non-UTC fixed, > > because I wouldnt want to be at a meeting which was at 23:00. > > We basically chose our 5pm eastern time meeting because that was when > Ian and Mo could make it to the meetings. At the time we chose it, that > meant 10pm in central europe. Now europe has moved ahead an hour, but > the 5pm eastern time problem remains. So, the question is: is someone outside DST opposed to this idea? If I don't get any answer before Sunday evening 20h UTC, we can move the schedule for the next meeting. Steven From steven.moix at axianet.ch Sun Apr 12 14:01:50 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:01:50 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239465798.10038.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239465798.10038.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239544910.7080.71.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello all, Bad news, InDesign CS4 has a new proprietary file format, even incompatible with older InDesign versions. Yay! The big question now is...do we want to use these press kits? :) They need some professional printing, Live CD's and CD fixation dots in the middle, which represents a cost of around 1$ to 1.5$ for each kit (rough guess). If yes, 1) I think the best solution is to redesign the whole thing in Scribus for the long term, I'm searching a volunteer! Maybe the Art team? 2) It would also be great if someone could translate them to English (Most of the 4 press kits have the same content)...any volunteers there? The press kits are available as PDF (French) on http://www.alphatek.info/divers/press-kit-FR.zip A picture of some kits: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/press-kits.jpg A kit with a LightScribe Live CD and a F11 press release: http://www.alphatek.info/divers/kit-communique.JPG Have a nice day Steven From jaa at redhat.com Mon Apr 13 15:05:59 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:05:59 -0400 Subject: In depth features profiles Message-ID: <49E354D7.907@redhat.com> Hey All, Can anyone who has an outstanding in depth feature profile due, try and get them done soon. Moksha and Ext4 are outstanding as well as two of my own, I am working on those now. I would like to have them done by the meeting next week. Thanks, Jack From steven.moix at axianet.ch Mon Apr 13 15:09:04 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:09:04 +0200 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239544910.7080.71.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239465798.10038.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239544910.7080.71.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239635344.7217.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:01 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > 1) I think the best solution is to redesign the whole thing in Scribus > for the long term, I'm searching a volunteer! Maybe the Art team? Note: it looks possible to export them as SVG for Inkscape, pascalp from fedora-fr is working on it. Steven From jaa at redhat.com Mon Apr 13 16:09:36 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:09:36 -0400 Subject: French press kits In-Reply-To: <1239635344.7217.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239112750.3027.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239113602.2874.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239114104.4110.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239465798.10038.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239544910.7080.71.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1239635344.7217.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49E363C0.4080102@redhat.com> Steven Moix wrote: > On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:01 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > >> 1) I think the best solution is to redesign the whole thing in Scribus >> for the long term, I'm searching a volunteer! Maybe the Art team? >> > > Note: it looks possible to export them as SVG for Inkscape, pascalp from > fedora-fr is working on it. > > Steven > > Hey Steven, Is there any way you can just copy and paste the french text to us so that we can translate it in the mean time? Thanks, Jack From steven.moix at axianet.ch Mon Apr 13 17:38:32 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:38:32 +0200 Subject: Meeting schedule, do we need strict UTC? In-Reply-To: <1239466299.10329.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1239209149.4793.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49DD1741.2090308@redhat.com> <1239466299.10329.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1239644312.9036.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I changed the meeting times as proposed: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Meeting_details I don't know if it's really clear though :) Steven From jaa at redhat.com Tue Apr 14 03:01:06 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:01:06 -0400 Subject: New Meeting Time Tomorrow 2009.04.14 @ 20.00 UTC Message-ID: <49E3FC72.2070204@redhat.com> Hey Guys, Sorry I sent this earlier today from my friends computer and was wondering why it didn't show up. He just emailed me now telling me I sent mail through his account. Sorry guys!! Hey Everyone, We have a new meeting time for tomorrow. We are going to go to non-utc fixed, which means we are going back to 20.00 UTC which is 4pm Eastern and 1pm Pacific. This will allow more of our european counterparts to be active, since before it would have meant them being at a meeting at 11pm. See you tomorrow! Jack From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 14 14:09:41 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:09:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: picture book update Message-ID: In summary, we need to separate CONTENT CREATION and DISTRIBUTION into two separate tasks. CONTENT CREATION ================ We need to read over their file creation guide as well as their cover template generator, and their color cover/interior suggestions/guidelines. The sales guy basically said that our job is to deliver them a .pdf file, so anything we use to create content that can spit out a .pdf is going to be ok, but he urged us to read those documents to be sure. We can choose 7x10, 8x10, or 8.5x11 as the "trim" size. They are mailing a sample of their work to Red Hat in Raleigh, where I will be next week to take a look at it. DISTRIBUTION ============ SETUP FEE -- $75 PROOF FEE -- $15 + $.09 per page = $22.20 1-49 copies: $9.50 each 50-99 copies: $9.025 each 100-249 copies: $8.55 each 250-499 copies: $7.60 each 500+ copies: $7.125 each 200 copies will run us $1807.20 plus tax ($9.04 each) 300 copies will run us $2377.20 plus tax ($7.92 each) 400 copies will run us $3137.20 plus tax ($7.84 each) 500 copies will run us $3659.70 plus tax ($7.32 each) We can either (a) do whatever we want with the books or (b) do whatever we want with some of the books and put the others on Amazon, etc. ========= My recommendation is that we continue working to produce the book, and assuming that the quality of their sample is good, we go with LSI. --Max From jaa at redhat.com Tue Apr 14 15:23:14 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:23:14 -0400 Subject: Meeting Today 2009.04.14 @ 20.00UTC / 4 Eastern Message-ID: <49E4AA62.4090605@redhat.com> Hey All, We will have our weekly meeting today, April 14th, 2009, at 20.00 UTC which is 4pm Eastern and 1 Pacific, in #fedora-meeting. We are coming up on the preview release and we need to begin ramping up to the release. Jack From gerold at lugd.org Tue Apr 14 20:46:33 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:46:33 +0200 Subject: Marketing idea mandatory for everybody Message-ID: <1239741993.3351.8.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> Hello everybody out there, what do you think about "name plates" like https://kermit.homelinux.net/misc/nameplate.jpg ? I would like to see every Ambassador with such a name plate (around the world) at the Release Parties, Talks, Events and btw. .... at Linuxtag, Fedora related Speakers from LinuxTag and FUDCon will have such a name plate :-) Can I have your "vote" for a mandatory "Standard name plate for the Release Cycle of F11"? -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Jack From dmaphy at googlemail.com Tue Apr 14 22:32:37 2009 From: dmaphy at googlemail.com (Dominic Hopf) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:32:37 +0200 Subject: Marketing idea mandatory for everybody In-Reply-To: <1239741993.3351.8.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> References: <1239741993.3351.8.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1239748357.3821.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 14.04.2009, 22:46 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > Hello everybody out there, > > what do you think about "name plates" like > https://kermit.homelinux.net/misc/nameplate.jpg ? > > I would like to see every Ambassador with such a name plate (around the > world) at the Release Parties, Talks, Events and btw. .... > > at Linuxtag, Fedora related Speakers from LinuxTag and FUDCon will have > such a name plate :-) > > Can I have your "vote" for a mandatory "Standard name plate for the > Release Cycle of F11"? +1 :) -- Dominic Hopf http://dominichopf.de/ Key Fingerprint: A7DF C4FC 07AE 4DDC 5CA0 BD93 AAB0 6019 CA7D 868D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Steven From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Apr 15 20:38:06 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:38:06 -0500 Subject: picture book update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090415203806.GA31435@gmail.com> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 04:09:41PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > In summary, we need to separate CONTENT CREATION and DISTRIBUTION into > two separate tasks. > > CONTENT CREATION > ================ > > We need to read over their file creation guide as well as their cover > template generator, and their color cover/interior > suggestions/guidelines. The sales guy basically said that our job is to > deliver them a .pdf file, so anything we use to create content that can > spit out a .pdf is going to be ok, but he urged us to read those > documents to be sure. > > We can choose 7x10, 8x10, or 8.5x11 as the "trim" size. > Color books have the option of a "medium paperback" which is 8.5x8.5 trim size. This size is also less expensive than the sizes listed here. (See http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/lsi-docs/uscolorbookaddendum.pdf) I also like the concept of a square book a lot more, but if there are reasons for the sizes above that people can come up with, please reply! > They are mailing a sample of their work to Red Hat in Raleigh, where I > will be next week to take a look at it. > Cool! > My recommendation is that we continue working to produce the book, and > assuming that the quality of their sample is good, we go with LSI. > Yes. If you still have pictures, please take the time to upload them or contact somebody about them. Other than that, we'll be waiting for a huge influx of pictures from FUDCon Berlin. -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We can postpone the book for two months and wait for the Berlin FUDCon, in which case I will scrap my current proposed photos and won't bother with getting the release forms, hopefully will have the opportunity ti get some more, or we can get the photographers to do an effort to release more photos from this large pool: http://www.flickr.com/groups/fudconbrno/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Apr 16 15:36:15 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:36:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: picture book update In-Reply-To: <49E6CF5B.4040309@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090415203806.GA31435@gmail.com> <49E6CF5B.4040309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote: > We can postpone the book for two months Why don't we start laying stuff out with good photos that we have now, and simply add to it after Berlin? We don't have to put everything on hold just because FUDCon Berlin will show us some new pictures, right? --Max From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Apr 16 23:34:17 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:34:17 -0500 Subject: picture book update In-Reply-To: References: <20090415203806.GA31435@gmail.com> <49E6CF5B.4040309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090416233417.GB11389@gmail.com> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 05:36:15PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > Why don't we start laying stuff out with good photos that we have now, > and simply add to it after Berlin? We don't have to put everything on > hold just because FUDCon Berlin will show us some new pictures, right? > As far as I'm concerned we're still in that stage where we want mockups of page styles. I'll ping the art list again. -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe if we make a push for photos, it would be reasonably easy to gather enough images (getting the release forms is the hard part) - after all we need only about 60 images... arguably we may have at least one third of them already submitted. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 17 07:00:44 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:00:44 +0300 Subject: picture book update In-Reply-To: <20090416233417.GB11389@gmail.com> References: <20090415203806.GA31435@gmail.com> <49E6CF5B.4040309@nicubunu.ro> <20090416233417.GB11389@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49E8291C.80404@nicubunu.ro> On 04/17/2009 02:34 AM, Ian Weller wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 05:36:15PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: >> Why don't we start laying stuff out with good photos that we have now, >> and simply add to it after Berlin? We don't have to put everything on >> hold just because FUDCon Berlin will show us some new pictures, right? >> > As far as I'm concerned we're still in that stage where we want mockups > of page styles. I'll ping the art list again. I saw no complaints after the first round of mockups: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups It seems like the people were happy overall with the layout and we may have to get only the special pages (titles, TOC, introduction...) which will follow the same concept anyway. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 18:30:18 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:30:18 -0400 Subject: Smolt in Mandriva In-Reply-To: <49E5241B.2010206@fedoraproject.org> References: <49E5241B.2010206@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <7f692fec0904191130k116a72a4k386550227e34dd43@mail.gmail.com> Pretty sweet :) 2009/4/14 Rahul Sundaram : > Hi > > After Fedora and OpenSUSE, Mandriva also has Smolt now though not yet > used by default > > http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/wordpress/mandriva/smolt-in-mandriva.html > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From jaa at redhat.com Tue Apr 21 15:15:04 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:15:04 -0400 Subject: Meeting TODAY 2009.04.21 @ 20.00 UTC Message-ID: <49EDE2F8.7030403@redhat.com> Hello All, We will be having our regularly scheduled Fedora Marketing meeting today at 20.00UTC. Thats 4 Eastern, 1 Pacific and 22.00 CET, please set you clocks accordingly. The meeting will take place in #fedora-meeting. If you have anything which needs to be done or have any ideas for actionable items for the time of release, please bring them. Jack From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 15:24:25 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:24:25 -0700 Subject: Meeting TODAY 2009.04.21 @ 20.00 UTC In-Reply-To: <49EDE2F8.7030403@redhat.com> References: <49EDE2F8.7030403@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080904210824j7f808a95t6a422cbd7c22884d@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Jack -- I'll be at the MySQL conference today and I'll try to make it. But I can guarantee I'll be there. Larry Cafiero On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hello All, > > We will be having our regularly scheduled Fedora Marketing meeting today at > 20.00UTC. Thats 4 Eastern, 1 Pacific and 22.00 CET, please set you clocks > accordingly. The meeting will take place in #fedora-meeting. > > If you have anything which needs to be done or have any ideas for > actionable items for the time of release, please bring them. > > Jack > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 22 06:46:29 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:16:29 +0530 Subject: Interview with Ricky Zhou Message-ID: <49EEBD45.9090406@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/04/15/interview-with-ricky-zhou-fedora-project/ "I think that Fedora definitely gets credit for that. If you look on a lot of news sites, you?ll see that a lot of people are fairly aware of how and where things have come from. Of course, there are plenty of places where people are off the mark, but that?s to be expected, too. Overall, Fedora does have a good reputation for being an early adopter of many useful features. I?ve seen people mention in a few places that a lot of software has improved and stabilized a lot after being included in Fedora." Rahul From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 22 19:40:23 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:40:23 -0400 Subject: In depth features profiles In-Reply-To: <49E354D7.907@redhat.com> References: <49E354D7.907@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090422194023.GH6404@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:05:59AM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey All, > > Can anyone who has an outstanding in depth feature profile due, try and > get them done soon. Moksha and Ext4 are outstanding as well as two of my > own, I am working on those now. I would like to have them done by the > meeting next week. I've been away on vacation until today. However, I should be able to do my podcast for PackageKit in the next 5 business days. Moksha is a little behind because Luke Macken, the principal developer, is extraordinarily overbooked right now. However, he will have answers to my print interview questions by April 27th. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip == Every bit counts. From a single byte to billions of images, from one line of text to a gigantic tangled semantic web of documents, from clay tablets to 3D holographic memory, storage and the means to organize storage have always been important to humanity. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes, it was said; a sailboat crossing the Atlantic still manages rates of a little over 1GB/s end-to-end. A petabyte of storage weighs about as much as a small car, but a large physics experiment can fill that up in less than a week. The modern rate of data production and amount of data storage --and crucially also data search and retrieval-- have pushed the limits of computer storage and the traditional file system further and further back. The NLUUG Spring Conference 2009 focuses on storage and the means to organise it: file systems, physical storage, connections and search. The keynote speaker at the conference will be Ted Ts'o, author of the ext4 file system in Linux and CTO of the Linux Foundation. Other subjects at the conference are DRBD, desktop search and ZFS. The conference is in conference center 'De Reehorst' in Ede, The Netherlands. Information about the full programme and registration can be found at the conference website: http://www.nluug.nl/events/vj09/index.html As always members of NLUUG and sister organisations as well as students get a hefty discount. From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 23 20:09:48 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:09:48 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux Message-ID: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> Hi Marketeers, There is still some time left before a final slogan is required for the Fedora release web site. (Currently we use the slogan "Fire it up" from the Fedora 10 release.) However, during the intervening period since we collected slogans, the artwork for Fedora 11 has changed significantly, dropping virtually all of the design elements on which we based our slogan guidance. This is not a negative comment; in fact, I really like the new artwork, which is quite different from the earlier versions that I liked as well. You might think I'm easy to please, but there are plenty of people who know me that will tell you otherwise! ;-) I prefer to think that our Artwork team just does consistently great work. Now the artwork features a lion (which is appropriate given the etymology of the F11 release name, "Leonidas"). Since we try to tie the slogan to the artwork, I've come up with some candidates. I would like to open the door for 48 hours for more suggestions. At the end of the process, I'll look at the total list and pick from it. I've updated the wiki and invite you to put in suggestions. *Please* look at the ground rules and try your best to stick to them. If you think your previous slogan should be considered, feel free to just copy it to the new table. I'll look at the results on Saturday night or Sunday and touch base with the list with some thoughts. Thanks everyone! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Currently we use the slogan "Fire it > up" from the Fedora 10 release.) > > However, during the intervening period since we collected slogans, the > artwork for Fedora 11 has changed significantly, dropping virtually > all of the design elements on which we based our slogan guidance. > This is not a negative comment; in fact, I really like the new > artwork, which is quite different from the earlier versions that I > liked as well. You might think I'm easy to please, but there are > plenty of people who know me that will tell you otherwise! ;-) I > prefer to think that our Artwork team just does consistently great > work. > > Now the artwork features a lion (which is appropriate given the > etymology of the F11 release name, "Leonidas"). Since we try to tie > the slogan to the artwork, I've come up with some candidates. I would > like to open the door for 48 hours for more suggestions. At the end > of the process, I'll look at the total list and pick from it. > > I've updated the wiki and invite you to put in suggestions. *Please* > look at the ground rules and try your best to stick to them. If you > think your previous slogan should be considered, feel free to just > copy it to the new table. > > I'll look at the results on Saturday night or Sunday and touch base > with the list with some thoughts. Thanks everyone! > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:38:45 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <2d319b780904231348o69fadea1mbd98f30f3738c8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <90460ac00904231339u4940dce9kb081db7745ea4d0c@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780904231348o69fadea1mbd98f30f3738c8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090423223845.GI19345@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:48:41PM +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > > Let it ROAR > > That's actually nice ! Could we please put suggestions on the wiki page? Thanks! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan#New_slogan_ideas > Is ? roar ? an action verb in english ? Yes. > If so, it could be nice to use it as the main verb of the sentance, > something like ? Roar with pleasure ? (but with something other than ? > pleasure ?, it's a Linux distribution, not an orgasm, even though some > might have weird sexual perversions :) Okay, maybe let's not put *that* one on the wiki. ;-) -- Paul W. 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(but with something other than ?? > pleasure ??, it's a Linux distribution, not an orgasm, Actually I bet there's people that disagree with you here. even though some > might have weird sexual perversions :) > Here too, but those I hope are different people... -Jeroen From stickster at gmail.com Fri Apr 24 13:04:41 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul Frields) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:04:41 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <49F188CC.1070302@kanarip.com> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <90460ac00904231339u4940dce9kb081db7745ea4d0c@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780904231348o69fadea1mbd98f30f3738c8b@mail.gmail.com> <49F188CC.1070302@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > On 04/23/2009 10:48 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >>> >>> Let it ROAR >> >> That's actually nice ! >> >> Is ? roar ? an action verb in english ? >> >> If so, it could be nice to use it as the main verb of the sentance, >> something like ? Roar with pleasure ? (but with something other than ? >> pleasure ?, it's a Linux distribution, not an orgasm, > > Actually I bet there's people that disagree with you here. > > ?even though some >> >> might have weird sexual perversions :) >> > > Here too, but those I hope are different people... You can love your Fedora, just don't *LOVE* your Fedora. ;-) Paul From unidentified221 at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 03:30:28 2009 From: unidentified221 at gmail.com (Emilio Simpkins) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:30:28 -0500 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <90460ac00904231339u4940dce9kb081db7745ea4d0c@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780904231348o69fadea1mbd98f30f3738c8b@mail.gmail.com> <49F188CC.1070302@kanarip.com> Message-ID: lawl? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Paul Frields wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen > wrote: > > On 04/23/2009 10:48 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > >>> > >>> Let it ROAR > >> > >> That's actually nice ! > >> > >> Is ? roar ? an action verb in english ? > >> > >> If so, it could be nice to use it as the main verb of the sentance, > >> something like ? Roar with pleasure ? (but with something other than ? > >> pleasure ?, it's a Linux distribution, not an orgasm, > > > > Actually I bet there's people that disagree with you here. > > > > even though some > >> > >> might have weird sexual perversions :) > >> > > > > Here too, but those I hope are different people... > > You can love your Fedora, just don't *LOVE* your Fedora. ;-) > > Paul > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You might think I'm easy to please, but there are > plenty of people who know me that will tell you otherwise! ;-) I > prefer to think that our Artwork team just does consistently great > work. > > Now the artwork features a lion (which is appropriate given the > etymology of the F11 release name, "Leonidas"). Since we try to tie > the slogan to the artwork, I've come up with some candidates. I would > like to open the door for 48 hours for more suggestions. At the end > of the process, I'll look at the total list and pick from it. > > I've updated the wiki and invite you to put in suggestions. *Please* > look at the ground rules and try your best to stick to them. If you > think your previous slogan should be considered, feel free to just > copy it to the new table. > > I'll look at the results on Saturday night or Sunday and touch base > with the list with some thoughts. Thanks everyone! > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with a fantastic late-breaking entry. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Currently we use the slogan "Fire it > > up" from the Fedora 10 release.) > > > > However, during the intervening period since we collected slogans, the > > artwork for Fedora 11 has changed significantly, dropping virtually > > all of the design elements on which we based our slogan guidance. > > This is not a negative comment; in fact, I really like the new > > artwork, which is quite different from the earlier versions that I > > liked as well. You might think I'm easy to please, but there are > > plenty of people who know me that will tell you otherwise! ;-) I > > prefer to think that our Artwork team just does consistently great > > work. > > > > Now the artwork features a lion (which is appropriate given the > > etymology of the F11 release name, "Leonidas"). Since we try to tie > > the slogan to the artwork, I've come up with some candidates. I would > > like to open the door for 48 hours for more suggestions. At the end > > of the process, I'll look at the total list and pick from it. > > > > I've updated the wiki and invite you to put in suggestions. *Please* > > look at the ground rules and try your best to stick to them. If you > > think your previous slogan should be considered, feel free to just > > copy it to the new table. > > > > I'll look at the results on Saturday night or Sunday and touch base > > with the list with some thoughts. Thanks everyone! > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan > > Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to > hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with > a fantastic late-breaking entry. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robyn.bergeron at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 23:56:34 2009 From: robyn.bergeron at gmail.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:56:34 -0700 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5d4d90c90904261656k7944279es702638e4528fab8c@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 04:09:48PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> Hi Marketeers, >> >> There is still some time left before a final slogan is required for >> the Fedora release web site. ?(Currently we use the slogan "Fire it >> up" from the Fedora 10 release.) >> >> However, during the intervening period since we collected slogans, the >> artwork for Fedora 11 has changed significantly, dropping virtually >> all of the design elements on which we based our slogan guidance. >> This is not a negative comment; in fact, I really like the new >> artwork, which is quite different from the earlier versions that I >> liked as well. ?You might think I'm easy to please, but there are >> plenty of people who know me that will tell you otherwise! ;-) ?I >> prefer to think that our Artwork team just does consistently great >> work. >> >> Now the artwork features a lion (which is appropriate given the >> etymology of the F11 release name, "Leonidas"). ?Since we try to tie >> the slogan to the artwork, I've come up with some candidates. ?I would >> like to open the door for 48 hours for more suggestions. ?At the end >> of the process, I'll look at the total list and pick from it. >> >> I've updated the wiki and invite you to put in suggestions. ?*Please* >> look at the ground rules and try your best to stick to them. ?If you >> think your previous slogan should be considered, feel free to just >> copy it to the new table. >> >> I'll look at the results on Saturday night or Sunday and touch base >> with the list with some thoughts. ?Thanks everyone! >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan > > Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to > hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with > a fantastic late-breaking entry. > I like this one; however, I'd like to point out that lions travel in prides... and wolves / wild dogs travel in packs. I'm not really a nitpicker, and I think it sounds good, but other people (those much more vocal than I :) ) may point out that the group of animals name doesn't exactly match up with the lion, and make a big woop-dee-doo about it. Just sayin' :) Of course, "pride" does have some nice double-entendre action going for it, so things like "Lead with Pride" (or Lead the Pride?) would probably work well... "Run with Pride" would have a nice double-meaning (run the OS with pride, run with the pride of lions) - but I think the preferable thing would be to imply leadership (with lead) rather than being with the group (running with... not necessarily ahead). "Innovate with Pride" could work too... "Create with Pride" ...Okay, that one sounds like a label my mother would have sewn into my clothing at age 5, but I'm just throwing ideas out here that fit with the image. :) I'll add to the wiki, thoughts welcome... I love making last minute suggestions. Doh! -Robyn From robyn.bergeron at gmail.com Mon Apr 27 00:02:07 2009 From: robyn.bergeron at gmail.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:02:07 -0700 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <5d4d90c90904261656k7944279es702638e4528fab8c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> <5d4d90c90904261656k7944279es702638e4528fab8c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5d4d90c90904261702t3341d175g45e21c2fde457515@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 04:09:48PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> Hi Marketeers, >>> >>> There is still some time left before a final slogan is required for >>> the Fedora release web site. ?(Currently we use the slogan "Fire it >>> up" from the Fedora 10 release.) >>> >>> However, during the intervening period since we collected slogans, the >>> artwork for Fedora 11 has changed significantly, dropping virtually >>> all of the design elements on which we based our slogan guidance. >>> This is not a negative comment; in fact, I really like the new >>> artwork, which is quite different from the earlier versions that I >>> liked as well. ?You might think I'm easy to please, but there are >>> plenty of people who know me that will tell you otherwise! ;-) ?I >>> prefer to think that our Artwork team just does consistently great >>> work. >>> >>> Now the artwork features a lion (which is appropriate given the >>> etymology of the F11 release name, "Leonidas"). ?Since we try to tie >>> the slogan to the artwork, I've come up with some candidates. ?I would >>> like to open the door for 48 hours for more suggestions. ?At the end >>> of the process, I'll look at the total list and pick from it. >>> >>> I've updated the wiki and invite you to put in suggestions. ?*Please* >>> look at the ground rules and try your best to stick to them. ?If you >>> think your previous slogan should be considered, feel free to just >>> copy it to the new table. >>> >>> I'll look at the results on Saturday night or Sunday and touch base >>> with the list with some thoughts. ?Thanks everyone! >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan >> >> Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to >> hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with >> a fantastic late-breaking entry. >> > > I like this one; however, I'd like to point out that lions travel in > prides... and wolves / wild dogs travel in packs. ?I'm not really a > nitpicker, and I think it sounds good, but other people (those much > more vocal than I :) ) may point out that the group of animals name > doesn't exactly match up with the lion, and make a big woop-dee-doo > about it. ?Just sayin' :) > > Of course, "pride" does have some nice double-entendre action going > for it, so things like > "Lead with Pride" (or Lead the Pride?) would probably work well... > "Run with Pride" would have a nice double-meaning (run the OS with > pride, run with the pride of lions) - but I think the preferable thing > would be to imply leadership (with lead) rather than being with the > group (running with... not necessarily ahead). "Innovate with Pride" > could work too... "Create with Pride" ...Okay, that one sounds like a > label my mother would have sewn into my clothing at age 5, but I'm > just throwing ideas out here that fit with the image. :) > > I'll add to the wiki, thoughts welcome... I love making last minute > suggestions. Doh! > > -Robyn > In my infinite wisdom, I failed to read the whole wiki page (yeah, I do that sometimes) - so I'd like to wholeheartedly endorse mizmo's "Lead the Pride" suggestion. My viewpoint is simply that there are a lot of negative nancy's out there who might be mean, cruel and heartless about the mixture of the word "pack" with the image of a lion. On their blogs, in the press, etc.... From steven.moix at axianet.ch Mon Apr 27 06:05:35 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:05:35 +0200 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <17fa59580904261406p750fd322u26ddcc81e0e3aed7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> <17fa59580904261406p750fd322u26ddcc81e0e3aed7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1240812335.4075.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:06 -0700, Rashadul Islam wrote: > what about: > MESMERIZE LEADING IN FREEDOM That's a word I don't understand as a non native English, so do probably a lot of other people :p Steven From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Mon Apr 27 14:05:46 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:05:46 -0400 Subject: NLUUG Filesystems & Storage (May 7th) In-Reply-To: <49EF0681.70905@kanarip.com> References: <49EF0681.70905@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <7f692fec0904270705k967e01fy370c2722d4f41fa1@mail.gmail.com> http://www.nluug.nl/activiteiten/events/vj09/kosten.html 290 Euros for non members is highway robbery. And considering how close that location is to the 'snelweg', that's not far from the truth. -Yaakov 2009/4/22 Jeroen van Meeuwen : > Hello, > > I'm sending you this announcement because it's a very interesting event > organized by the Dutch UUG, on the subject of Filesystems & Storage, with > key people giving keynotes and sessions amongst which is the core developer > of ext4. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > == > > Every bit counts. From a single byte to billions of images, from one > line of text to a gigantic tangled semantic web of documents, from clay > tablets to 3D holographic memory, storage and the means to organize > storage have always been important to humanity. Never underestimate the > bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes, it was said; a sailboat > crossing the Atlantic still manages rates of a little over 1GB/s > end-to-end. > > A petabyte of storage weighs about as much as a small car, but a large > physics experiment can fill that up in less than a week. The modern rate > of data production and amount of data storage --and crucially also data > search and retrieval-- have pushed the limits of computer storage and > the traditional file system further and further back. > > The NLUUG Spring Conference 2009 focuses on storage and the means to > organise it: file systems, physical storage, connections and search. > > The keynote speaker at the conference will be Ted Ts'o, author of the > ext4 file system in Linux and CTO of the Linux Foundation. Other > subjects at the conference are DRBD, desktop search and ZFS. > > The conference is in conference center 'De Reehorst' in Ede, The > Netherlands. Information about the full programme and registration can > be found at the conference website: > > http://www.nluug.nl/events/vj09/index.html > > As always members of NLUUG and sister organisations as well as students > get a hefty discount. > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 28 14:12:32 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to > hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with > a fantastic late-breaking entry. I like it too. Fearless Leader, has a final decision been made now? :) --Max, writing this email on an airplane From leonardo.vaz at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 14:38:54 2009 From: leonardo.vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo Menezes Vaz) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:38:54 -0300 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1ff193860904280738o7e7ce52cue1a8d4b7abce1b2b@mail.gmail.com> > There is still some time left before a final slogan is required for > the Fedora release web site. ?(Currently we use the slogan "Fire it > up" from the Fedora 10 release.) What about "Fight for freedom"? It may be appropriated since F11 theme is about Leonidas and the Spartan's fight for freedom. Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 www.tchelinux.org From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 15:37:59 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:37:59 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <1ff193860904280738o7e7ce52cue1a8d4b7abce1b2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <1ff193860904280738o7e7ce52cue1a8d4b7abce1b2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090428153759.GF3350@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:38:54AM -0300, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > > There is still some time left before a final slogan is required for > > the Fedora release web site. ?(Currently we use the slogan "Fire it > > up" from the Fedora 10 release.) > > What about "Fight for freedom"? It may be appropriated since F11 theme > is about Leonidas and the Spartan's fight for freedom. Fighting is not something I feel we should associate with Fedora. (Although it's good alliteration!) :-) -- Paul W. 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It may be appropriated since F11 theme > is about Leonidas and the Spartan's fight for freedom. >>Fighting is not something I feel we should associate with Fedora. >>(Although it's good alliteration!) :-) >> >>-- >>Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ >>gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 >>http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ >>irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug I second that! I feel fighting signifies that Fedora is in competition with other distros which we are not! From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 15:58:28 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:58:28 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <5d4d90c90904261702t3341d175g45e21c2fde457515@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> <5d4d90c90904261656k7944279es702638e4528fab8c@mail.gmail.com> <5d4d90c90904261702t3341d175g45e21c2fde457515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090428155828.GG3350@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:02:07PM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Robyn Bergeron > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > >> Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to > >> hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with > >> a fantastic late-breaking entry. > >> > > I like this one; however, I'd like to point out that lions travel > > in prides... and wolves / wild dogs travel in packs. I'm not > > really a nitpicker, and I think it sounds good, but other people > > (those much more vocal than I :) ) may point out that the group of > > animals name doesn't exactly match up with the lion, and make a > > big woop-dee-doo about it. Just sayin' :) > > > > Of course, "pride" does have some nice double-entendre action > > going for it, so things like "Lead with Pride" (or Lead the > > Pride?) would probably work well... "Run with Pride" would have a > > nice double-meaning (run the OS with pride, run with the pride of > > lions) - but I think the preferable thing would be to imply > > leadership (with lead) rather than being with the group (running > > with... not necessarily ahead). "Innovate with Pride" could work > > too... "Create with Pride" ...Okay, that one sounds like a label > > my mother would have sewn into my clothing at age 5, but I'm just > > throwing ideas out here that fit with the image. :) > > > > I'll add to the wiki, thoughts welcome... I love making last minute > > suggestions. Doh! > > In my infinite wisdom, I failed to read the whole wiki page (yeah, I > do that sometimes) - so I'd like to wholeheartedly endorse mizmo's > "Lead the Pride" suggestion. > > My viewpoint is simply that there are a lot of negative nancy's out > there who might be mean, cruel and heartless about the mixture of the > word "pack" with the image of a lion. On their blogs, in the press, > etc.... I think there are always people who will find negative things to say about any given marketing slogan. It comes with the territory, honestly. There are plenty of ways to turn "Fire it up" into a negative too ("Set it on fire!" "Flame on!"), but we can't really design to the standard of "Stop anyone from saying anything negative." Mo's original suggestion was "Lead the pack," and I still like that one, despite the fact that it's not as correct a word choice as it could be. It's a more familiar idiom and therefore not as awkward as "Lead the pride." But I agree that the sheer number of people who say, "Lions don't travel in packs" will just distract from the message, which is enough to knock it out of the running. On the other hand, "Lead the pride" doesn't have to mean just leading a pride of lions -- it may mean that all FOSS users can be proud of using and running FOSS, but that Fedora is at the forefront of that *feeling* of pride. I'm not sure that clever twist, though, is enough to overcome the inherent awkwardness of the actual wording. So given these issues, I'll fall back to the slogan "Reign." It's short, simple, and best of all, multifaceted. Coincidentally, Mo submitted this one too, but I want to thank *everyone* who donated a clever slogan for consideration. Great job, everybody! I talked this over with my wife, with whom I consult for many important things (like marketing slogans for projects in which she has no involvement -- oh, I meant "important to *ME*"). She suggested the slogan "Let the women do all the work." Those of you who know something about lions' social and survival behaviors will get a kick out of that. I *think* she was being tongue in cheek.... -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Leonardo.Vaz at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 16:05:20 2009 From: Leonardo.Vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo.Vaz at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:20 +0000 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090428153759.GF3350@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <000e0cd4821431de6304689fa1f7@google.com> > Fighting is not something I feel we should associate with Fedora. Sure Paul. ;) > (Although it's good alliteration!) :-) Gotta think a little more. Maybe I can suggest something else in time. :) Leo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougsland at redhat.com Tue Apr 28 17:24:39 2009 From: dougsland at redhat.com (Douglas Schilling Landgraf) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:39 -0300 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090428153759.GF3350@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <1ff193860904280738o7e7ce52cue1a8d4b7abce1b2b@mail.gmail.com> <20090428153759.GF3350@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090428142439.7c727033@medogz.dogs> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:37:59 -0400 "Paul W. Frields" wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:38:54AM -0300, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > > > There is still some time left before a final slogan is required > > > for the Fedora release web site. ?(Currently we use the slogan > > > "Fire it up" from the Fedora 10 release.) > > > > What about "Fight for freedom"? It may be appropriated since F11 > > theme is about Leonidas and the Spartan's fight for freedom. > > Fighting is not something I feel we should associate with Fedora. > (Although it's good alliteration!) :-) > Following Leonardo's suggestion... "Fedora 11 - Leonidas: The king of freedom" ? Cheers, Douglas From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 28 18:06:41 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:06:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Preview today? Message-ID: What's the plan for the preview release today? The servers aren't even sweating yet send me some hits! :) -Mike From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 21:07:25 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:07:25 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090428155828.GG3350@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090423200948.GE19345@localhost.localdomain> <20090426161607.GA18441@localhost.localdomain> <5d4d90c90904261656k7944279es702638e4528fab8c@mail.gmail.com> <5d4d90c90904261702t3341d175g45e21c2fde457515@mail.gmail.com> <20090428155828.GG3350@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <7f692fec0904281407i54776600i7d99aef30022ff34@mail.gmail.com> 2009/4/28 Paul W. Frields : > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:02:07PM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Robyn Bergeron >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > >> >> Thus far I really like "Lead the pack" the best -- but I'm going to >> >> hold this over for another 24 hours just in case someone comes in with >> >> a fantastic late-breaking entry. >> >> >> > I like this one; however, I'd like to point out that lions travel >> > in prides... and wolves / wild dogs travel in packs. ?I'm not >> > really a nitpicker, and I think it sounds good, but other people >> > (those much more vocal than I :) ) may point out that the group of >> > animals name doesn't exactly match up with the lion, and make a >> > big woop-dee-doo about it. ?Just sayin' :) >> > >> > Of course, "pride" does have some nice double-entendre action >> > going for it, so things like "Lead with Pride" (or Lead the >> > Pride?) would probably work well... ?"Run with Pride" would have a >> > nice double-meaning (run the OS with pride, run with the pride of >> > lions) - but I think the preferable thing would be to imply >> > leadership (with lead) rather than being with the group (running >> > with... not necessarily ahead). "Innovate with Pride" could work >> > too... "Create with Pride" ...Okay, that one sounds like a label >> > my mother would have sewn into my clothing at age 5, but I'm just >> > throwing ideas out here that fit with the image. :) >> > >> > I'll add to the wiki, thoughts welcome... I love making last minute >> > suggestions. Doh! >> >> In my infinite wisdom, I failed to read the whole wiki page (yeah, I >> do that sometimes) - so I'd like to wholeheartedly endorse mizmo's >> "Lead the Pride" suggestion. >> >> My viewpoint is simply that there are a lot of negative nancy's out >> there who might be mean, cruel and heartless about the mixture of the >> word "pack" with the image of a lion. ?On their blogs, in the press, >> etc.... > > I think there are always people who will find negative things to say > about any given marketing slogan. ?It comes with the territory, > honestly. ?There are plenty of ways to turn "Fire it up" into a > negative too ("Set it on fire!" ?"Flame on!"), but we can't really > design to the standard of "Stop anyone from saying anything negative." I think "Stop anyone from saying anything negative" would also make a great slogan. -Yaakov From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 21:48:25 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:48:25 -0400 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <000e0cd4821431de6304689fa1f7@google.com> References: <20090428153759.GF3350@localhost.localdomain> <000e0cd4821431de6304689fa1f7@google.com> Message-ID: <20090428214825.GB16500@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 04:05:20PM +0000, Leonardo.Vaz at gmail.com wrote: > > Fighting is not something I feel we should associate with Fedora. > > Sure Paul. ;) > > > (Although it's good alliteration!) :-) > > Gotta think a little more. Maybe I can suggest something else in time. :) I've already edited the wiki to let folks know -- I've closed the entry window already, in line with the guidance I sent previously. So far, "Reign" is the clear front-runner. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 28 23:12:46 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:12:46 -0400 Subject: Preview today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090428231246.GI16500@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:06:41PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > What's the plan for the preview release today? The servers aren't even > sweating yet send me some hits! :) How's about some of you marketeers helping us spread the word? Here are some digg stories: http://digg.com/d1pqgj http://digg.com/d1pqHe The official announcement is located here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-April/msg00011.html Story submissions to the following would be a great help * OSNews.com * osdir.com * Slashdot * others... I realize that pre-releases and full releases are somewhat different in their level of coverage, but the more we can spread the word the better. Make sure people know that in less than a month, May 26, Fedora 11 (Leonidas) will be unleashed! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yum install yum-presto to enable it. * Automatic font and mime installer via PackageKit * Nouveau as the default driver for Nvidia cards (3D support is not mature and disabled however), * Simplified Anaconda text mode installation and minimal installation support, * Automatic Bug Reporting tool, * Native access to Microsoft Exchange using OpenChange, * Firefox 3.1 and ThunderBird 3.0 * Openoffice.org 3.1 * Windows Cross Compiler (MinGW and a comprehensive set of cross compiled libraries) * Ext4 as the default filesystem * Experimental support for the next generation Btrfs filesystem, * Improved I18N with the switch to IBus input system by default, * Much improved Kernel Mode Support with flicker free and fast bootup * Many virtualization and security improvements, * RPM 4.7, GNOME 2.26, KDE 4.2, Xfce 4.6, Linux Kernel 2.6.29, Python 2.6. GCC 4.4 and several other changes. Announcement: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-April/msg00011.html Major Features list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 29 05:49:39 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:19:39 +0530 Subject: History (and Releases) Are Cyclical: This is Fedora 11! Message-ID: <49F7EA73.2050605@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://ostatic.com/blog/history-and-releases-are-cyclical-this-is-fedora-11 "The Fedora Project is rolling out some impressive new features and functions with Leonidas. One of the most notable is the use of ext4 as the default file system (while many distributions are planning on making ext4 the default in the near future, some recent releases have chosen to keep it optional this time around). The Fedora team says that aside from ext4 performance enhancements, Leonidas users will be treated to faster boot and shutdown procedures, an automatic font, codec and clipart installer, and the DeviceKit device management tool designed to work with (and sometimes stand in for) hal. Fedora 11 users can also look forward to updated versions of the KDE, GNOME, and Xfce desktop environments, improvements in direct rendering, and better volume control and power management tools." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 29 05:59:04 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:29:04 +0530 Subject: Fedora 11 preview release media coverage - so far Message-ID: <49F7ECA8.2020400@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3817686/Red+Hat+Fedora+11+Focuses+on+the+Linux+Desktop.htm http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_11_preview&num=1 http://www.h-online.com/open/Preview-of-the-Fedora-11-Linux-distribution-with-new-update-function--/news/113170 http://www.osnews.com/story/21388/Fedora_11_Preview_Release_Announced http://ostatic.com/blog/history-and-releases-are-cyclical-this-is-fedora-11 The following one talks about the alpha release http://linuxsysconfig.com/2009/03/fedora-11-preview/ Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 29 06:06:13 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:36:13 +0530 Subject: Digg This: Fedora 11 preview Message-ID: <49F7EE55.7040703@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_11_Preview Rahul From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Apr 29 14:03:32 2009 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:03:32 +0200 Subject: Interview with Contributor Christoph Wickert (german) Message-ID: <49F85E34.1090500@gmx.de> Hy, last weekend Christoph and I sat together to record a small Interview about his participation around fedora and also a little about the forthcoming Linuxtag [1] and FUDCon [2]. The 10 minute interview in german is available here: http://wonderer.fedorapeople.org/Interview_cwickert_24_Apr_2009.ogg The total download size is only 3,2 MB. Please enjoy & share! [1] = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009 [2] = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConBerlin2009 mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org From affix at FedoraProject.org Wed Apr 29 14:34:29 2009 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:34:29 +0100 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget Message-ID: I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora 11 countdown http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs etc. Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam -- Keiran Smith - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - - Free Software Foundation Associate - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 29 14:41:19 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:41:19 +0300 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49F8670F.3000605@nicubunu.ro> On 04/29/2009 05:34 PM, Keiran Smith wrote: > I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora 11 > countdown > > http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ > > This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs > etc. > > Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam Definitely not spam, I think we can use more stuff like this. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 14:46:58 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:16:58 +0530 Subject: Interview with Contributor Christoph Wickert (german) In-Reply-To: <49F85E34.1090500@gmx.de> References: <49F85E34.1090500@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1241016418.3338.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 16:03 +0200, wonderer wrote: > Hy, > > last weekend Christoph and I sat together to record a small Interview > about his participation around fedora and also a little about the > forthcoming Linuxtag [1] and FUDCon [2]. > The 10 minute interview in german is available here: > > http://wonderer.fedorapeople.org/Interview_cwickert_24_Apr_2009.ogg > > The total download size is only 3,2 MB. Please enjoy & share! > > > [1] = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009 > [2] = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConBerlin2009 > > mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards > Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org > hi, Is it possible to have a text translation of whatever was said? Subtitles would be nice :D but even just text would be great (for us non German folks). regards, Ankur From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 14:58:33 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:28:33 +0530 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: <49F8670F.3000605@nicubunu.ro> References: <49F8670F.3000605@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1241017113.3338.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 17:41 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 04/29/2009 05:34 PM, Keiran Smith wrote: > > I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora 11 > > countdown > > > > http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ > > > > This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs > > etc. > > > > Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam > > Definitely not spam, I think we can use more stuff like this. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > hi, Not a php guy.. How do I use this :| ? regards, Ankur From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 29 15:02:06 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:02:06 +0300 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: <1241017113.3338.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <49F8670F.3000605@nicubunu.ro> <1241017113.3338.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49F86BEE.4040001@nicubunu.ro> On 04/29/2009 05:58 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 17:41 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 04/29/2009 05:34 PM, Keiran Smith wrote: >>> I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora 11 >>> countdown >>> >>> http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ >>> >>> This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs >>> etc. >>> >>> Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam >> Definitely not spam, I think we can use more stuff like this. >> > > hi, > > Not a php guy.. How do I use this :| ? Do you have a wordpress blog? if so http://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins/WordPress_Widgets -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 15:09:18 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:39:18 +0530 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: <49F86BEE.4040001@nicubunu.ro> References: <49F8670F.3000605@nicubunu.ro> <1241017113.3338.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49F86BEE.4040001@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: > >>>> >>>> http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ >>>> >>>> This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> I >>> >>> Nice one dude...! Have you added this plugin to the wordpress.org plugins database? -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostafa.daneshvar at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 15:19:28 2009 From: mostafa.daneshvar at gmail.com (Mostafa Daneshvar) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:49:28 +0430 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1241018368.2888.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:34 +0100, Keiran Smith wrote: > I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora > 11 countdown > > http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ > > This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their > blogs etc. > > Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam > Good one. Simple and useful. I'm using it in my weblog. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 15:51:49 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Interview with Contributor Christoph Wickert (german) In-Reply-To: <49F85E34.1090500@gmx.de> References: <49F85E34.1090500@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, wonderer wrote: > last weekend Christoph and I sat together to record a small Interview > about his participation around fedora and also a little about the > forthcoming Linuxtag [1] and FUDCon [2]. The 10 minute interview in > german is available here: Thank you very much for doing this, Henrik. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:09:54 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:09:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: User Testimonials Message-ID: Going over the marketing schedule, and I see that "own, clean, revitalize" the User Testimonials page had a target date of March 31. What's the status of that page? Do we have a plan for the page, are are we simply going to archive it? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserTestimonials The idea is a good one -- we're going to do a "what do you love about Fedora" project at LinuxTag & FUDCon Berlin. I just don't know what our goals for that particular page are. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:12:37 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Press kits Message-ID: What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? Are they designed? Has the content been reviewed/approved? When will be sending them out? etc. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:15:26 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 screenshots & tour Message-ID: Two of the topics on the marketing schedule are: 1) Update the screenshots page. What is this page? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Screenshots has nothing on it. I put a deadline of next Tuesday's marketing meeting down for this (May 5). 2) Update the Fedora tour page. Jack's currently listed as the owner. What's the plan? --Max From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 16:14:19 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:14:19 -0600 Subject: Fedora Classroom - May 3 - With Noticable changes Message-ID: Hi all, Paul just posted a blog about Fedora Classroom[1], and I wanted to get this out long ago, but I've been really slow. I wanted to get the The Fedora Classroom activities have changed a bit this time around and we wanted to use some of the Fedora Marketing mojo to get the word out. So let's start with the changes: * Fedora Classroom now runs one full date from 12:00 am to 11:59 pm (all in UTC time). ** This means that any class can be scheduled at any time, thus accommodating more schedules * We recommend sessions be approximately 1 to 1.5 hours. (this is a change from scheduled 1 hour sessions) ** This also implies a short break between classroom sessions, but is no longer required. Fedora Classroom is always looking for more presenters. The topic doesn't have to be difficult. You don't even have to be an expert, just have something fedora-related to share. If you are interested in giving a class in your time zone, please sign up on the wiki. Fedora Classroom is always looking for feedback and suggested topics. If you are interested in hearing a particular topic, please add it to the 'Suggest a Class' section, just below the schedule. Fedora Classroom also has an archive of previous classes. This archive is available on the Classroom wiki page as well, under the 'Classroom Archive' section. ---------------------- I'm hoping for some feedback here to improve this message. I'm also looking to put this out on a few of the news distribution lists (we should be adding this to FWN the week before it happens). Any other suggestions, thoughts, improvements are welcomed. Cheers, Clint From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:16:48 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:16:48 -0400 Subject: User Testimonials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49F87D70.7060400@redhat.com> I started trolling around in #fedora a while ago and asking people that. Henrik was supposed to be doing that stuff and he dropped off the face of the earth so we added my name to it. I don't want to archive it, I want to go forward with it. I can spend some time today and tomorrow getting some testimonials, but we also need to make sure to grab testimonials on the day or days after release. What do you think? Jack Max Spevack wrote: > Going over the marketing schedule, and I see that "own, clean, > revitalize" the User Testimonials page had a target date of March 31. > > What's the status of that page? Do we have a plan for the page, are > are we simply going to archive it? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserTestimonials > > The idea is a good one -- we're going to do a "what do you love about > Fedora" project at LinuxTag & FUDCon Berlin. I just don't know what > our goals for that particular page are. > > --Max > From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 16:16:38 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:16:38 -0600 Subject: Fedora Classroom - May 3 - With Noticable changes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > Hi all, > > Paul just posted a blog about Fedora Classroom[1], and I wanted to get > this out long ago, but I've been really slow. ?I wanted to get the > > The Fedora Classroom activities have changed a bit this time around > and we wanted to use some of the Fedora Marketing mojo to get the word > out. ?So let's start with the changes: > > * Fedora Classroom now runs one full date from 12:00 am to 11:59 pm > (all in UTC time). > ** This means that any class can be scheduled at any time, thus > accommodating more schedules > * We recommend sessions be approximately 1 to 1.5 hours. (this is a > change from scheduled 1 hour sessions) > ** This also implies a short break between classroom sessions, but is > no longer required. > > Fedora Classroom is always looking for more presenters. ?The topic > doesn't have to be difficult. ?You don't even have to be an expert, > just have something fedora-related to share. ?If you are interested in > giving a class in your time zone, please sign up on the wiki. > > Fedora Classroom is always looking for feedback and suggested topics. > If you are interested in hearing a particular topic, please add it to > the 'Suggest a Class' section, just below the schedule. > > Fedora Classroom also has an archive of ?previous classes. ?This > archive is available on the Classroom wiki page as well, under the > 'Classroom Archive' section. > > ---------------------- > > I'm hoping for some feedback here to improve this message. ?I'm also > looking to put this out on a few of the news distribution lists (we > should be adding this to FWN the week before it happens). ?Any other > suggestions, thoughts, improvements are welcomed. > > Cheers, > > Clint > Oops, forgot to include links 1 - http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1607 2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom Cheers, Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 16:18:23 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:18:23 -0600 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > Two of the topics on the marketing schedule are: > > 1) Update the screenshots page. ?What is this page? > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Screenshots has nothing on it. ?I put a > deadline of next Tuesday's marketing meeting down for this (May 5). This is what has been done before. I suggest we go with something similar. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/Fedora10/Screenshots Cheers, Clint From jaa at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:22:29 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:22:29 -0400 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? Jack Clint Savage wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > >> Two of the topics on the marketing schedule are: >> >> 1) Update the screenshots page. What is this page? >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Screenshots has nothing on it. I put a >> deadline of next Tuesday's marketing meeting down for this (May 5). >> > > This is what has been done before. I suggest we go with something similar. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/Fedora10/Screenshots > > Cheers, > > Clint > > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:23:50 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:23:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: User Testimonials In-Reply-To: <49F87D70.7060400@redhat.com> References: <49F87D70.7060400@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > I started trolling around in #fedora a while ago and asking people > that. Henrik was supposed to be doing that stuff and he dropped off > the face of the earth so we added my name to it. > > I don't want to archive it, I want to go forward with it. I can spend > some time today and tomorrow getting some testimonials, but we also > need to make sure to grab testimonials on the day or days after > release. > > What do you think? I think a plan for the page is good, but it's lower priority than making sure that some of the other tasks on our schedule get finished on completion. There's more important stuff related to F11 than that page. I just wanted to check to see if we had some sort of plan for it. --Max From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 16:23:49 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:23:49 -0600 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> Message-ID: > Clint Savage wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Max Spevack wrote: >> >>> >>> Two of the topics on the marketing schedule are: >>> >>> 1) Update the screenshots page. ?What is this page? >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Screenshots has nothing on it. ?I put a >>> deadline of next Tuesday's marketing meeting down for this (May 5). >>> >> >> This is what has been done before. ?I suggest we go with something >> similar. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/Fedora10/Screenshots >> >> Cheers, >> >> Clint >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? > > Jack I can probably get the things started, but it's really a job for more than one person. Clint From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:24:48 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether or not he's still able to do it? I think the screenshots should focus LESS on every page of the installer and more on showing some of the cool stuff you can do with Fedora once it is installed. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:26:24 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > 2) Update the Fedora tour page. Jack's currently listed as the owner. > What's the plan? I went ahead and created the stub page for F11's tour. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 16:27:36 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:27:36 -0600 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > >> 2) Update the Fedora tour page. ?Jack's currently listed as the owner. >> What's the plan? > > I went ahead and created the stub page for F11's tour. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour > Ugh! I just finished creating https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour I wonder if they'll work together well Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 16:29:01 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:29:01 -0600 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. ?Can we confirm whether or > not he's still able to do it? > > I think the screenshots should focus LESS on every page of the installer and > more on showing some of the cool stuff you can do with Fedora once it is > installed. Yeah, Last release, Moixs and I worked on getting the screenshots in place. I think having more examples of the theme, what's in the installer, desktop, etc that's new and different is better than showing how to set up F11. Cheers, Clint From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Apr 29 16:41:24 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:41:24 +0200 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1241023284.2938.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > > Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? > > Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether > or not he's still able to do it? Yes yes, it's on my planning for tomorrow. i just need a confirmation from Art that the Anaconda artwork won't change. > I think the screenshots should focus LESS on every page of the installer > and more on showing some of the cool stuff you can do with Fedora once > it is installed. Totally, so feel free to add "real life" pictures. Steven From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 29 16:51:03 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:51:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > Ugh! > > I just finished creating > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour > > I wonder if they'll work together well Yes, because your page is a subset of the larger Tour. :) From affix at ihack.co.uk Wed Apr 29 17:00:55 2009 From: affix at ihack.co.uk (Affix) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:00:55 +0100 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: References: <49F8670F.3000605@nicubunu.ro> <1241017113.3338.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49F86BEE.4040001@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM, magesh wrote: > > >>>>> >>>>> http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ >>>>> >>>>> This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their >>>>> blogs >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> I >>>> >>>> > > Nice one dude...! > > Have you added this plugin to the wordpress.org plugins database? > > > -- > magesh > Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" > > http://magesh.geexhq.com/ > http://twitter.com/mageshcse > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > Why yes I have :) Just waiting on approval for it -- Keiran Smith - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - - Free Software Foundation Associate - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:27:36 -0400 Subject: Interview with Contributor Christoph Wickert (german) In-Reply-To: References: <49F85E34.1090500@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20090429212736.GO18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:51:49PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, wonderer wrote: > >> last weekend Christoph and I sat together to record a small Interview >> about his participation around fedora and also a little about the >> forthcoming Linuxtag [1] and FUDCon [2]. The 10 minute interview in >> german is available here: > > Thank you very much for doing this, Henrik. Hear, hear.... I might listen to this to try and do the brushing up of my German that I should have started months ago. :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 21:36:09 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:36:09 -0400 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090429213609.GP18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 03:34:29PM +0100, Keiran Smith wrote: > I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora 11 > countdown > > http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ > > This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their blogs etc. > > Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam You must be joking! This is awesome, Keiran! http://paul.frields.org -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:07:25 -0400 Subject: Remote Desktop Spin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090429230725.GX18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:38:40PM +0100, Keiran Smith wrote: > Hi Guys, > Recently I was looking for a Remote desktop server that Will allow Multiple > Users to connect to It. I found one and decided to make a spin. The spin will > include various remote desktop tools such as rDesktop, Vino, VNC etc. > I was wondering if anyone would like to help out on this project with > integration nd testing. If you haven't already, you will probably want to visit the Spins SIG and join their mailing list so you can get the technical help and guidance you need putting together a Fedora Remix, if your intention is to make it an official Spin: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_SIG http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-spins -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 22:59:42 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:59:42 -0400 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:12:37PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? > > Are they designed? > > Has the content been reviewed/approved? > > When will be sending them out? Internally at Red Hat, I've worked with Caroline Kazmierski to send out Fedora Preview releases on Live USB keys to a list of journalists who use them to seed major articles to be published on release day. Those kits and their Scribus source files are found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material#Press_Kit I worked on the F10 version last time, and expected to work on the F11 version this time, running it by the Art+Design team to have them do any visual repairs necessary for the best effect. Thankfully the template is kept very generic so it doesn't need to be tweaked a lot for each release. However, I'll be adding a bit to the content to help the journalists make the best possible use of the keys. In other news, we are moving to 4 GB keys this time instead of 2 GB, which should greatly increase the lifetime of the keys even for complete novices. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 23:05:19 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:05:19 -0400 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090429230519.GW18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:29:01AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > > > Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. ?Can we confirm whether or > > not he's still able to do it? > > > > I think the screenshots should focus LESS on every page of the installer and > > more on showing some of the cool stuff you can do with Fedora once it is > > installed. > > Yeah, > > Last release, Moixs and I worked on getting the screenshots in place. > I think having more examples of the theme, what's in the installer, > desktop, etc that's new and different is better than showing how to > set up F11. More specifically, it would be great to make a screenshot to illustrate *at least* every feature in the F11 talking points shown here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points Additional features shown in the expanded feature list could also be featured, in a section following that one. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 23:26:22 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:26:22 -0600 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:12:37PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: >> What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? >> >> Are they designed? >> >> Has the content been reviewed/approved? >> >> When will be sending them out? > > Internally at Red Hat, I've worked with Caroline Kazmierski to send > out Fedora Preview releases on Live USB keys to a list of > journalists who use them to seed major articles to be published on > release day. ?Those kits and their Scribus source files are found > here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material#Press_Kit > > I worked on the F10 version last time, and expected to work on the F11 > version this time, running it by the Art+Design team to have them do > any visual repairs necessary for the best effect. ?Thankfully the > template is kept very generic so it doesn't need to be tweaked a lot > for each release. ?However, I'll be adding a bit to the content to > help the journalists make the best possible use of the keys. > > In other news, we are moving to 4 GB keys this time instead of 2 GB, > which should greatly increase the lifetime of the keys even for > complete novices. Well, It might be a good idea to talk with Moixs about this as he sent me some press kits as well as some to Jack. As I understood it, they were being translated already. Cheers, Clint From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 23:45:19 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:45:19 -0400 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:26:22PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:12:37PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > >> What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? > >> > >> Are they designed? > >> > >> Has the content been reviewed/approved? > >> > >> When will be sending them out? > > > > Internally at Red Hat, I've worked with Caroline Kazmierski to send > > out Fedora Preview releases on Live USB keys to a list of > > journalists who use them to seed major articles to be published on > > release day. ?Those kits and their Scribus source files are found > > here: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material#Press_Kit > > > > I worked on the F10 version last time, and expected to work on the F11 > > version this time, running it by the Art+Design team to have them do > > any visual repairs necessary for the best effect. ?Thankfully the > > template is kept very generic so it doesn't need to be tweaked a lot > > for each release. ?However, I'll be adding a bit to the content to > > help the journalists make the best possible use of the keys. > > > > In other news, we are moving to 4 GB keys this time instead of 2 GB, > > which should greatly increase the lifetime of the keys even for > > complete novices. > > Well, > > It might be a good idea to talk with Moixs about this as he sent me > some press kits as well as some to Jack. As I understood it, they > were being translated already. Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 23:51:05 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:51:05 -0600 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:26:22PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:12:37PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: >> >> What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? >> >> >> >> Are they designed? >> >> >> >> Has the content been reviewed/approved? >> >> >> >> When will be sending them out? >> > >> > Internally at Red Hat, I've worked with Caroline Kazmierski to send >> > out Fedora Preview releases on Live USB keys to a list of >> > journalists who use them to seed major articles to be published on >> > release day. ?Those kits and their Scribus source files are found >> > here: >> > >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material#Press_Kit >> > >> > I worked on the F10 version last time, and expected to work on the F11 >> > version this time, running it by the Art+Design team to have them do >> > any visual repairs necessary for the best effect. ?Thankfully the >> > template is kept very generic so it doesn't need to be tweaked a lot >> > for each release. ?However, I'll be adding a bit to the content to >> > help the journalists make the best possible use of the keys. >> > >> > In other news, we are moving to 4 GB keys this time instead of 2 GB, >> > which should greatly increase the lifetime of the keys even for >> > complete novices. >> >> Well, >> >> It might be a good idea to talk with Moixs about this as he sent me >> some press kits as well as some to Jack. ?As I understood it, they >> were being translated already. > > Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? Pretty much me and Jack since it was physical presskits. I think Moixs was going to put them up on our site but I think how he created them wasn't using free tools and he was trying to find a way to do that. I'm not sure though, so don't quote me on that. Cheers, Clint From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 29 23:56:27 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:56:27 -0400 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090429235627.GF18166@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:51:05PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:26:22PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > >> It might be a good idea to talk with Moixs about this as he sent me > >> some press kits as well as some to Jack. ?As I understood it, they > >> were being translated already. > > > > Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? > > Pretty much me and Jack since it was physical presskits. I think > Moixs was going to put them up on our site but I think how he created > them wasn't using free tools and he was trying to find a way to do > that. I'm not sure though, so don't quote me on that. Let's see if Moixs pokes his head in on this thread tomorrow; he's likely asleep now. The "press kit" I was talking about has a more limited audience, but any press kit that Fedora is sending out really must use free tools. It sounds like that's already being addressed. If the original was prepared in French, I'm keen to see the English translation when finished. Maybe Moixs can tell us who's working on that, unless you or Jack know. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From ewanluca at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 02:20:42 2009 From: ewanluca at gmail.com (Ewan Luca) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:20:42 +0300 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: <20090429235627.GF18166@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429235627.GF18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <8a1586f70904291920w4ff37ba9uf626390036cfda92@mail.gmail.com> I don't know if anybody have some use of what I worked on the other week but you might take a look at http://e1luca.fedorapeople.org/PressKit/ and maybe use some of that material. I stop working on that because at some point Ian Wh*eeler* said the logo was not used correctly so I let those who now how the logo should be used to do a better job. Luca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.s.perttula at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 05:40:15 2009 From: j.s.perttula at gmail.com (jere samuli perttula) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:40:15 +0300 Subject: Slogan, redux In-Reply-To: <20090428214825.GB16500@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090428153759.GF3350@localhost.localdomain> <000e0cd4821431de6304689fa1f7@google.com> <20090428214825.GB16500@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I like the "Reign with Pride" slogan as it has many meanings, is short and simply shows that Fedora reigns (or at least should reign) over all operating systems. It shows that we should really be pride of the FOSS we are using and of showing the way to others and clearing the road for them. The true king is the one who is willing to serve his followers and who is making and showing the way for others. -- Jere Samuli Perttula On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 00:48, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 04:05:20PM +0000, Leonardo.Vaz at gmail.com wrote: >> > Fighting is not something I feel we should associate with Fedora. >> >> Sure Paul. ;) >> >> > (Although it's good alliteration!) :-) >> >> Gotta think a little more. Maybe I can suggest something else in time. :) > > I've already edited the wiki to let folks know -- I've closed the > entry window already, in line with the guidance I sent previously. > > So far, "Reign" is the clear front-runner. > > -- > Paul W. Frields ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?http://paul.frields.org/ > ?gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 ?5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > ?http://redhat.com/ ? - ?- ?- ?- ? http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > ?irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 30 06:56:26 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:26:26 +0530 Subject: Remote Desktop Spin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49F94B9A.3070906@fedoraproject.org> On 04/30/2009 02:08 AM, Keiran Smith wrote: > Hi Guys, > Recently I was looking for a Remote desktop server that Will allow > Multiple Users to connect to It. I found one and decided to make a spin. > The spin will include various remote desktop tools such as rDesktop, > Vino, VNC etc. > I was wondering if anyone would like to help out on this project with > integration nd testing. Does it require a spin? IMO, the desktop spin should serve this purpose as well. Rahul From kkmageshcse at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 07:19:56 2009 From: kkmageshcse at gmail.com (magesh) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:49:56 +0530 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: <20090429161355.2bd12946@medogz.dogs> References: <20090429161355.2bd12946@medogz.dogs> Message-ID: people doing great works like this... needs recognition thats why i asked you.... good keep doing these kind of works -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From giallu at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 08:18:39 2009 From: giallu at gmail.com (Gianluca Sforna) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:18:39 +0200 Subject: Remote Desktop Spin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Keiran Smith wrote: > ? Recently I was looking for a Remote desktop server that Will allow > Multiple Users to connect to It. Isn't this provided by LTSP? https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ -- Gianluca Sforna http://morefedora.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna From steven.moix at axianet.ch Thu Apr 30 10:30:59 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:30:59 +0200 Subject: Fedora Wordpress widget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1241087459.3684.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:34 +0100, Keiran Smith wrote: > I coded a wordpress widget (Its very basic) That displays the fedora > 11 countdown > > http://keiran-smith.net/2009/04/fedora-11-countdown-for-wordpress/ > > This should help people spread the word of fedora throughout their > blogs etc. > > Im sorry if anyone considers this as spam Fantastic, I added it too :) Steven From steven.moix at axianet.ch Thu Apr 30 10:40:05 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:40:05 +0200 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: <20090429235627.GF18166@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429235627.GF18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1241088005.3684.28.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 19:56 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:51:05PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:26:22PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > > >> It might be a good idea to talk with Moixs about this as he sent me > > >> some press kits as well as some to Jack. As I understood it, they > > >> were being translated already. > > > > > > Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? > > > > Pretty much me and Jack since it was physical presskits. I think > > Moixs was going to put them up on our site but I think how he created > > them wasn't using free tools and he was trying to find a way to do > > that. I'm not sure though, so don't quote me on that. > > Let's see if Moixs pokes his head in on this thread tomorrow; he's > likely asleep now. The "press kit" I was talking about has a more > limited audience, but any press kit that Fedora is sending out really > must use free tools. It sounds like that's already being addressed. > If the original was prepared in French, I'm keen to see the English > translation when finished. Maybe Moixs can tell us who's working on > that, unless you or Jack know. Ok, a r?sum? of the situation: * Jack should have translated my physical press kits by now. * I asked the Art team to recreate these press kits in Scribus one week ago, not much going on since then. It's in the design service queue on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService We have 2 choices now if nothing moves quickly: * Send me the English texts and I'll create the PDF files from my Adobe InDesign source (my trial version still hasn't expired), we can always recreate the models in Scribus later. * Use Paul's press kit for the F11 release and only use the new ones for F12. Steven From steven.moix at axianet.ch Thu Apr 30 10:43:13 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:43:13 +0200 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1241088193.3684.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:12 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > What's the status of press kits for Fedora 11? > > Are they designed? 3 press kits exist: * "Mine" which are meant to be physically printed * Jack's kits which are an electronic version * Paul's kits which are a mix of both :p > Has the content been reviewed/approved? Jack, Herlo and you have some of the kits (or they should arrive in the next days at your office in NL) :p > When will be sending them out? Depends on which kit we select for this release. > etc. > > --Max > From steven.moix at axianet.ch Thu Apr 30 10:46:04 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:46:04 +0200 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: <1241023284.2938.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> <1241023284.2938.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1241088364.3684.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:41 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > > > > Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? > > > > Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether > > or not he's still able to do it? > > Yes yes, it's on my planning for tomorrow. i just need a confirmation > from Art that the Anaconda artwork won't change. I got a confirmation from mizmo, I'll go ahead and complete the page in the next couple of hours. Steven From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Apr 30 13:07:57 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:07:57 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? Jack, you need to work to integrate the existing "press kits" with the stuff that you are meeting with Mairin about in Westford, and ultimately get Paul's buy-in on whatever it is you come up with. Best to report back to the list on all of this as well, IMHO. --Max From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 13:40:27 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:40:27 -0400 Subject: Slogan final Message-ID: <20090430134027.GM3111@localhost.localdomain> The slogan for Fedora 11 "Leonidas" will be: "Reign." Thanks everyone for your thoughts and excellent suggestions. Make sure you pick up a copy of the download counter for your personal sites, or check out the Wordpress plugin here: http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/01/fedora-11-countdown-counter/ -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 13:45:19 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:45:19 -0400 Subject: Press kits In-Reply-To: References: <20090429225942.GV18166@localhost.localdomain> <20090429234519.GD18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090430134519.GN3111@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 03:07:57PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> Who's reviewed the text and design at this point? > > Jack, you need to work to integrate the existing "press kits" with the > stuff that you are meeting with Mairin about in Westford, and ultimately > get Paul's buy-in on whatever it is you come up with. One thing I see in these kits that needs to be addressed is the need for a brief "how to use this media" blurb. The Live USB press sheets that Caroline and I send to journalists have instructions on what to do with the Live USB key. They also present factoids on the release that are useful for a journalist even if they don't choose to set up an interview for an article. > Best to report back to the list on all of this as well, IMHO. I cannot emphasize strongly enough that this list remains the best way to make sure that everyone is pulling the same way, and that we all know work is progressing as it should. In other words, big +1. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From steven.moix at axianet.ch Thu Apr 30 15:28:18 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:28:18 +0200 Subject: F11 screenshots & tour In-Reply-To: <1241088364.3684.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <49F87EC5.4060803@redhat.com> <1241023284.2938.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1241088364.3684.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1241105298.7584.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi there, On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 12:46 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:41 +0200, Steven Moix wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:24 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > > > > > > Is someone willing to volunteer to do this? > > > > > > Moixs is listed as the owner of the screenshots. Can we confirm whether > > > or not he's still able to do it? > > > > Yes yes, it's on my planning for tomorrow. i just need a confirmation > > from Art that the Anaconda artwork won't change. > > I got a confirmation from mizmo, I'll go ahead and complete the page in > the next couple of hours. > > Steven > I started to upload pictures on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour As mentioned by Max, I reduced the number of Anaconda/setup screenshots by 50%. I made them during the install (Shift+printscreen saves them "somewhere") but they were not saved after the reboot, I'm quite pissed. Feel free to add your pictures in the "Applications" section. The rules are simple: 1000 pixels wide and only display software available in Fedora, we don't want rpmfusion stuff in there. Can someone make KDE, XFCE or Sugar screenshots? Steven