From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 03:49:04 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:49:04 -0400 Subject: Reminder: #fedora-meeting, 20:00 UTC Message-ID: <4A77AFB0.1080200@redhat.com> Verily, zodbot has spoken. .nextmarketingmeeting mchua: 16 hours, 12 minutes, and 35 seconds Check out https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Meeting_details, because we're going to do things a little differently this week. See you there! --Mel From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 04:56:51 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:56:51 -0400 Subject: Generic Marketing release cycle schedule (draft) In-Reply-To: <20090731215736.GH16883@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A72A723.7060400@redhat.com> <20090731215736.GH16883@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A77BF93.8020808@redhat.com> > Mel, I'd probably put the Red Hat Brand coordination meeting earlier, > something like Alpha availability +1 week. They need significant > headroom in their schedule for things like video production. > > Paul Thanks, Paul (and sorry for the belated answer) - edited. Here's the final generic one - final in the sense that we won't worry about this until the start of F13, since this will certainly be tweaked at the beginning of the next round. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Schedule/Generic Incidentally, we need someone to convert this file to taskjuggler format - see https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/1. (yes, we're using a ticketing system now. You'll see more of this as tasks trickle in...) --Mel PS: Yeah, I know, I should have made the first ticket "not everybody contributes to Fedora" or something like that. PPS: Note the level of detail at which I'm trying to write tickets. I went a little overboard; they don't all have to be this detailed. However, a relative newcomer should be able to read a ticket and immediately know how to start - at the very least, the ticket should point to instructions on how to find someone on IRC to ask about how to get started. This means using URLs instead of vague references ("that site thing") and putting in clear "here's how you tell when you are done" criteria. This will also help us remember what the heck a ticket referred to several years down the line. I'll repeat all this in a "now we have Trac!" email (which will point to a wiki page asking people to do this sort of thing), but as a former QA person, I couldn't resist an opportunity to advocate for good ticket-writing skills. (Further suggestions welcome.) From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 05:37:29 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:37:29 -0400 Subject: F12 Marketing schedule frozen Message-ID: <4A77C919.9070402@redhat.com> ...after making sure no schedule conflicts with other teams ensued. Yay! Schedule attached, and also available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F12_schedule in extraordinarily ugly formatting. (John, is there a better way to format this for you? I followed the Gobby format you wanted, but the items aren't listed in strictly chronological order.) Once this schedule is posted on http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-all-tasks.html, the Extraordinarily Ugly Formatting will be replaced by a much nicer-looking link. Of course, the real question (now that we have a schedule with milestones and all) is how on-track are we for hitting them? Stay tuned, because the answer is coming... *dun-dun-DUNN* at the start of the next Marketing meeting. (In other words, I get to go and calculate that frantically now.) --Mel -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: marketing-f12-schedule.txt URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:00:28 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:00:28 -0400 Subject: Generic Marketing release cycle schedule (draft) In-Reply-To: <4A77BF93.8020808@redhat.com> References: <4A72A723.7060400@redhat.com> <20090731215736.GH16883@localhost.localdomain> <4A77BF93.8020808@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090804120028.GF4667@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:56:51AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: >> Mel, I'd probably put the Red Hat Brand coordination meeting earlier, >> something like Alpha availability +1 week. They need significant >> headroom in their schedule for things like video production. >> >> Paul > > Thanks, Paul (and sorry for the belated answer) - edited. Here's the > final generic one - final in the sense that we won't worry about this > until the start of F13, since this will certainly be tweaked at the > beginning of the next round. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Schedule/Generic > > Incidentally, we need someone to convert this file to taskjuggler format > - see https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/1. (yes, we're using > a ticketing system now. You'll see more of this as tasks trickle in...) I'll ask John about this -- in the past I believe he's taken care of this for teams. > PS: Yeah, I know, I should have made the first ticket "not everybody > contributes to Fedora" or something like that. "Some people think Fedora is just a kind of hat." ;-) > PPS: Note the level of detail at which I'm trying to write tickets. I > went a little overboard; they don't all have to be this detailed. > However, a relative newcomer should be able to read a ticket and > immediately know how to start - at the very least, the ticket should > point to instructions on how to find someone on IRC to ask about how to > get started. This means using URLs instead of vague references ("that > site thing") and putting in clear "here's how you tell when you are done" > criteria. This will also help us remember what the heck a ticket referred > to several years down the line. > > I'll repeat all this in a "now we have Trac!" email (which will point to > a wiki page asking people to do this sort of thing), but as a former QA > person, I couldn't resist an opportunity to advocate for good > ticket-writing skills. (Further suggestions welcome.) This is spot-on in my opinion. Actionable tickets are self-documenting and make collaboration and contribution a snap. Nice work. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From rafaelliu at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 15:35:02 2009 From: rafaelliu at gmail.com (rafaelliu) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:35:02 -0500 Subject: rafaelliu has invited you to Spacelocker Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Aug 4 20:51:21 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:51:21 +0200 Subject: Marketing Meeting 2009-08-04 IRC Log Message-ID: <4A789F49.2090204@axianet.ch> Hi all, Logs for today's meeting are posted at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009. The minutes log is available on http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-04/fedora-meeting.2009-08-04-20.00.html Steven From mel at redhat.com Fri Aug 7 00:46:37 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:46:37 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting :: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 @ 17:00 UTC] Message-ID: <4A7B796D.9000504@redhat.com> Looks like we've got ourselves a discussion topic. ;) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Agenda --Mel -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting :: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 @ 17:00 UTC Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:28:07 -0700 From: John Poelstra To: logistics at lists.fedoraproject.org, Fedora Translation Project List When: 2009-08-12 at 17:00 UTC (1 PM EDT/10 AM PDT) Next Wednesday we are scheduled to have the Release Readiness meeting for the Fedora 12 Alpha. I'm hoping representatives from each of the teams will be able to attend. Please discuss with your teams to see if there are any issues they would like to bring forward. This cross team meeting is held to coordinate and discuss release day issues in real time and to make sure we are ready for a smooth release day. The following list shows the people that represented these teams in past releases. If you cannot attend or no longer wish to represent your team please coordinate and alternate and let me know. >> I still need to know who is representing the translation team << Ambassadors -- David Nalley Design -- M?ir?n Duffy Documentation -- Eric Christensen FESCo -- Jon Stanley Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway Fedora Project Leader -- Paul Frields Infrastructure -- Mike McGrath Marketing -- Mel Chua Quality -- James Laska Release Engineering -- Jesse Keating Translation -- ?? Websites -- Ricky Zhou I will send conference call information privately next week. A recap of this meeting will appear on this list. Thanks, John From mel at redhat.com Fri Aug 7 17:47:40 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:47:40 -0400 Subject: FI roadmap preview Message-ID: <4A7C68BC.9070906@redhat.com> I've been having LAPTOP FAIL issues, so here's a low-tech version until such time as my new netbook is running Fedora and I can sit down to type these into notes*: http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/fi-whiteboard.jpg Everything on this image will be captured on the [[Fedora Insight]] wiki page, and I'll ping this list when that's done, so if you don't look now, you won't be missing anything. Just wanted to give people a chance to see what was going on, because Transparency Is Good. --Mel *instead of stacking books behind my monitor's hinge to keep my hardware from falling physically apart, say. From francesco at ephisia.org Fri Aug 7 19:18:00 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:18:00 +0200 Subject: FI roadmap preview In-Reply-To: <4A7C68BC.9070906@redhat.com> References: <4A7C68BC.9070906@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > I've been having LAPTOP FAIL issues, so here's a low-tech version until such > time as my new netbook is running Fedora and I can sit down to type these > into notes*: http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/fi-whiteboard.jpg > > Everything on this image will be captured on the [[Fedora Insight]] wiki > page, and I'll ping this list when that's done, so if you don't look now, > you won't be missing anything. Just wanted to give people a chance to see > what was going on, because Transparency Is Good. > > --Mel Yeah, trasparency is really good. I see the scheme and sure it's sounds a really interesting one. Naturally if you need something from the Ambassadors side, feel free to ask ;) Regards Francesco From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 11 06:00:26 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:00:26 -0400 Subject: Reminder: #fedora-meeting, 20:00 UTC Message-ID: <4A8108FA.3000101@redhat.com> Check out https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Meeting_details - we've got a few new people joining us this week, so bring any projects you're working on that need some help. ;) See you there! --Mel From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 11 21:03:52 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:03:52 -0400 Subject: Meeting minutes 2009-08-11 Message-ID: <4A81DCB8.9040601@redhat.com> Whoa, crazy meeting. We covered f12 alpha readiness, new folks (WOO!), impending FUDCon... materials for installfest, "i use fedora" stories - lots to keep up with. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-11/fedora-meeting.2009-08-11-20.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-11/fedora-meeting.2009-08-11-20.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-11/fedora-meeting.2009-08-11-20.01.log.html From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 22:14:11 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:14:11 +0200 Subject: Welcome, fellow new people! In-Reply-To: <4A675728.20409@redhat.com> References: <4A675728.20409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30908111514w33f57243j40b0272c71cf520c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > * Rangeen, I saw you work on FEL - does FEL need marketing? Well I'll answer that, yes we actually need marketing. FEL is a robust platform for design electronic hardware and many small companies have deployed "logic design" solution of FEL, while small universities have deployed the analog portion of FEL for research and development. >From what I noticed during LinuxtagBerlin2009, many opensource hardware developers still don't know about FEL. I would appreciate if you find FEL articles roaming somewhere on the internet that you tweet it with the tags #fedora and #EDA . Corporate bloggers are following the tags #EDA, so the more they find #fedora with #EDA the more they will talk about #fedora as well. I think what is missing with FEL's exposure is its presence in wikipedia. Wikipedia has surprisely attracted corporate engineers which are looking for alternative solutions. Can anyone step in please and and write text about FEL into wikipedia please ? I'll try to find time to blog about new features which we are implementing for F-12. As usual we need more contributors :) A dynamic todo list can be found here : https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/report/1 Kind regards, Chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 22:18:04 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:18:04 +0200 Subject: Joining Marketting team In-Reply-To: <4A6755BB.1070000@redhat.com> References: <4A6755BB.1070000@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30908111518u3bae1844tb2afe0cd2fda46fe@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > As a fellow hardware geek (I studied electrical engineering in school and > wish I'd known about FEL back then) I'm particularly glad to see someone > spreading the good news in universities. :) Mel it's never late to design a quick "oxygen level sensor" or your own iPod charger with Fedora Electronic Lab :) or even a "Fedora LED flashing panel" for Fedora booth lol Chitlesh From poelstra at redhat.com Wed Aug 12 02:45:05 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:45:05 -0700 Subject: Fedora 12 Marketing Schedule Message-ID: <4A822CB1.4030204@redhat.com> Hi Marketing People, The Fedora 12 marketing schedule is live and integrated with all the other teams. Big thanks to Mel and Paul for providing the data I needed to put it all in TaskJuggler. Please review the schedule and let me know if there are any changes you'd like me to make. http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing-tasks.html Also available is an iCal file for easy import to your online calendar. Note this is a reduced view of the schedule. If there are certain task you explicitly want in the iCal file let me know I will make it so :) http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-marketing.ics Thanks, John p.s. For those curious about TaskJuggler and what goes on behind the scenes, the source and reporting file is here: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/source/ From stickster at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 23:10:06 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:10:06 -0400 Subject: Summit USB key doco Message-ID: <20090812231006.GA16274@localhost.localdomain> The Red Hat Summit organizers asked me to prepare a small document they can fit in the badge kits for handing out to all attendees. That document is intended to accompany the 2 GB Fedora 11 Live USB key that all attendees will also receive. (Complete with persistence, a separate /home, and yum-presto!) The doc is a double-sided ~4x8" page. I posted the document here, and if you see something vital missing please let me know. The finished product is due shortly. Keep in mind this document is not intended to cover all Fedora bases, because we will have a booth/table there where we can meet people and answer questions. That fact will also be announced to Summit attendees and highlighted in some of the promo material. http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/summit-key/ -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Aug 13 14:55:17 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn?= Duffy) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:55:17 -0400 Subject: Summit USB key doco Message-ID: <1250175317.2716.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Subject: Re: Summit USB key doco > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0400 > > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 19:10 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > I posted the document here, and if you see something vital missing > > please let me know. The finished product is due shortly. > > woooo Scribus :) > > I copied the files into the design team collateral dir, I hope you don't > mind! > > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/USB%20Key% > 20Documentation/ > > Also, some quick feedback, take it or leave it :) None of it is > critical, more stylistic so it may not be worth changing: > > "You can even make changes as you go to make Fedora suit your needs." > > there's two makes here, maybe instead "You can even make changes as you > go to adapt Fedora to your needs." > > "PowerPC based" > > maybe should be "PowerPC-based" > > "check out all the latest summit information through our handy > download page." > > might want to capitalize - "Summit" > > "Just double?click the "Red Hat > Summit 2009" icon on the desktop." > > might be cool to throw a screenshot of the icon in so it's blazingly > obvious > > ~m From mel at redhat.com Thu Aug 13 04:48:14 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:48:14 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform Message-ID: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal: Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a constant motivation ("argh, this workflow isn't made for this software!") to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP. The extra work this would create is not too bad. * migrating articles from wp to zikula when zikula is ready (we'd choose persistent URLs that work for both platforms) * manual cross-linking of translations while using wp (one wp instance per language) * Design's design for FI wp would have to be readapted to fit zikula when the time comes. Rationale: We have people who know wp and can make it function fast; wp was a runner-up during platform comparison (iirc), it's sufficiently feature-limited for the things we want that we'll be dissuaded for using it for way too long, and the number of published items that will go out over FI in the next 6 months is manageable (even if we average one item per day, that's 182.5 items; <200 is small enough to manually migrate if absolutely need be). Question: Can you spot any flaws in this idea? Rip it apart! If there aren't any gaping holes by the weekend, I'll ask Infrastructure to get us up a quick test instance to start with, so we can begin publishing finished material being created right now, like Paul's Summit usb key doco. Help needed: Ian is out of commission for a few weeks as the school year starts, so we're looking for someone to step up to get the infrastructure for an FI platform going. Any takers? (We'll know by this weekend whether it's wordpress or not; if wordpress, it'll be easy.) Context: see log below (slightly edited for relevance). --Mel mchua: i have some bad news about FI ianweller: just saw the email thread - not going to make it in time for F12? mchua: correct ianweller: I'm reading through and trying to understand what the blockers are. ianweller: I've got my heart set on having an FI feed live for Ambassadors to use for the F12 cycle by the time beta goes out ianweller: (...though I could be convinced of the impossibility of this) well, all the luck in the world to you :) ianweller: can you tell me why the following is a terrible idea: ianweller: wordpress as temporary F12 FI feed. none of these reasons might be blockers, i'm playing devil's advocate... 1) may be difficult to import back into zikula. ianweller: quick, dirty, content goes up somewhere; it's tagged, feeds automagically exist, we can pick URLs so that they'll be persistent when we move to zikula. * mchua nods 2) less workflow management. Definitely less workflow management. 3) dirty kludge for the time being that may accidentally become permanent. 3) is what worries me. ...though I am willing to sit down every week and manually crank through workflow, and sit down when zikula comes up and manually port over every article, if need be. that's all i can think of. :) (the latter will actually be 'write a python script that...') python is like crack and if marketing and news folks are gritting their teeth through using wordpress every week, zikula will get up in a freakin' hurry I want wordpress to be functional, but to be functional *with pain* so that we don't get complacent and use it for F13 as well, basically. ianweller: but it's *happy* crack! lol ianweller: i sampled everything in the medicine cabinet for comparison. From stickster at gmail.com Thu Aug 13 22:10:51 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:10:51 -0400 Subject: Summit USB key doco In-Reply-To: <1250175317.2716.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1250175317.2716.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090813221051.GM12411@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:55:17AM -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > > > Subject: Re: Summit USB key doco > > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0400 > > > > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 19:10 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > I posted the document here, and if you see something vital missing > > > please let me know. The finished product is due shortly. > > > > woooo Scribus :) > > > > I copied the files into the design team collateral dir, I hope you don't > > mind! > > > > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/USB%20Key% > > 20Documentation/ > > > > Also, some quick feedback, take it or leave it :) None of it is > > critical, more stylistic so it may not be worth changing: > > > > "You can even make changes as you go to make Fedora suit your needs." > > > > there's two makes here, maybe instead "You can even make changes as you > > go to adapt Fedora to your needs." > > > > "PowerPC based" > > > > maybe should be "PowerPC-based" > > > > "check out all the latest summit information through our handy > > download page." > > > > might want to capitalize - "Summit" > > > > "Just double?click the "Red Hat > > Summit 2009" icon on the desktop." > > > > might be cool to throw a screenshot of the icon in so it's blazingly > > obvious Thanks Mo, I'm going to see if I can get the fixes in before press time! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From robyn.bergeron at gmail.com Fri Aug 14 02:26:01 2009 From: robyn.bergeron at gmail.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:26:01 -0700 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <5d4d90c90908131926k12237025ta69c95619af13c73@mail.gmail.com> So....I could theoretically take on this task. By theoretically, I mean that, "...get the infrastructure for an FI platform going..." sounds fairly benign, but if it involves actual installation and whatnot, I may not be your girl. Feel free to ping me with more details offline... or on-list, in case anyone else is interested in hearing about the nitty-gritty. Or I can get on irc and discuss if that is better. :) Cheers- Robyn On 8/12/09, Mel Chua wrote: > The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to > use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal: > Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this > release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a > constant motivation ("argh, this workflow isn't made for this > software!") to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP. > > The extra work this would create is not too bad. > * migrating articles from wp to zikula when zikula is ready (we'd choose > persistent URLs that work for both platforms) > * manual cross-linking of translations while using wp (one wp instance > per language) > * Design's design for FI wp would have to be readapted to fit zikula > when the time comes. > > Rationale: We have people who know wp and can make it function fast; wp > was a runner-up during platform comparison (iirc), it's sufficiently > feature-limited for the things we want that we'll be dissuaded for using > it for way too long, and the number of published items that will go out > over FI in the next 6 months is manageable (even if we average one item > per day, that's 182.5 items; <200 is small enough to manually migrate if > absolutely need be). > > Question: Can you spot any flaws in this idea? Rip it apart! If there > aren't any gaping holes by the weekend, I'll ask Infrastructure to get > us up a quick test instance to start with, so we can begin publishing > finished material being created right now, like Paul's Summit usb key doco. > > Help needed: Ian is out of commission for a few weeks as the school year > starts, so we're looking for someone to step up to get the > infrastructure for an FI platform going. Any takers? (We'll know by this > weekend whether it's wordpress or not; if wordpress, it'll be easy.) > > Context: see log below (slightly edited for relevance). > > --Mel > > mchua: i have some bad news about FI > ianweller: just saw the email thread - not going to make it in > time for F12? > mchua: correct > ianweller: I'm reading through and trying to understand what the > blockers are. > ianweller: I've got my heart set on having an FI feed live for > Ambassadors to use for the F12 cycle by the time beta goes out > ianweller: (...though I could be convinced of the impossibility > of this) > well, all the luck in the world to you :) > ianweller: can you tell me why the following is a terrible idea: > ianweller: wordpress as temporary F12 FI feed. > none of these reasons might be blockers, i'm playing devil's > advocate... > 1) may be difficult to import back into zikula. > ianweller: quick, dirty, content goes up somewhere; it's tagged, > feeds automagically exist, we can pick URLs so that they'll be > persistent when we move to zikula. > * mchua nods > 2) less workflow management. > Definitely less workflow management. > 3) dirty kludge for the time being that may accidentally > become permanent. > 3) is what worries me. > ...though I am willing to sit down every week and manually crank > through workflow, and sit down when zikula comes up and manually port > over every article, if need be. > that's all i can think of. :) > (the latter will actually be 'write a python script that...') > python is like crack > and if marketing and news folks are gritting their teeth through > using wordpress every week, zikula will get up in a freakin' hurry > I want wordpress to be functional, but to be functional *with > pain* so that we don't get complacent and use it for F13 as well, basically. > ianweller: but it's *happy* crack! > lol > ianweller: i sampled everything in the medicine cabinet for > comparison. > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 14 02:48:28 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:48:28 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> On 2009-08-13 12:48:14 AM, Mel Chua wrote: > The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to > use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal: > Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this > release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a > constant motivation ("argh, this workflow isn't made for this > software!") to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP. Are the same things that were blocking zikula for the docs team blocking zikula for marketing? Would it be that hard to get even an initial, relatively blank zikula instance on servers that are not covered by the Infrastructure change freeze and then work on polishing that? I'm asking because this is almost making it seem like we have the ability to easily setup and play with a wordpress instance while somehow being unable to do this with zikula, which doesn't make all that much sense to me (although I am totally unfamiliar with the specifics here) - are there any specific things that are blocking marketing from working on an initial zikula instance at the moment? 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In parting, it's hard to convey raw emotion as, personally, words cannot describe how privileged I feel to have been affiliated and employed by Red Hat and Fedora for the better part of the last decade. To be a part of Red Hat and Fedora is to be a part of the nobility; a precious pedigree of ideological steadfastness, technological excellence, supreme work ethic, and above all else, the truest, kindest and most passionate and compassionate people. At the same time, it is awkward to be both nobility and revolutionary--two roles which have historically been at antipodes--at the forefront of the great re-establishment of the philosophy of technology and how it is put into practice. This extraordinary conundrum is what drew me to Open Source and to Red Hat and it should serve as a constant source of both inspiration and pride for each of us, constantly. Similar to the Gandhi quote which lines the walls of every Red Hat office, when they said we couldn't we did, when they said we would fail, we succeeded, when they said we were wrong, we have and will continue to prove ourselves right, every moment of every hour of every day. This fierce belief in our ability to transcend and ascend to the highest of heights and noblest of peaks is what Red Hat stands for and it is for instilling this within me that I am thankful. It is true, and those who doubt it, will be forever stuck in the vacuum of time as we climb ever higher. Keep climbing, keep striving and most important keep your faith, we are in the right place and we are winning! Escher was right. Men step down and yet rise up, the hand is drawn by he hand it draws, and a woman is poised on her very own shoulders. Without us, this universe is simple, run with the regularity of a prison. Galaxies spin along stipulated arcs, stars collapse at the specified hour, crows U-turn south and monkeys rut on schedule. But we, whom the cosmos shaped for a billion years to fit this place, we know it failed. For we can reshape, reach an arm through the bars, and, Escher-like, pull ourselves out. And while whales feeding on mackerel are confined forever to the sea, we climb the waves, look down from clouds. Now go tell the kids. This is Jack, choking up and signing off. Godspeed friends. From oliver at linux-kernel.at Fri Aug 14 17:02:00 2009 From: oliver at linux-kernel.at (Oliver Falk) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:02:00 +0200 Subject: AW: The Time Has Come to Say Good Bye Message-ID: <200908141702.n7EH21NP001564@mail.linux-kernel.at> Jack, I wish you all the best! May the force be with you :-) Allthough we didn't have much to do with each other, I really appreciate the work you did in the last decade! Best, Oliver ----- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ----- Von: Jack Aboutboul Gesendet: Freitag, 14. August 2009 18:52 An: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base ; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Betreff: The Time Has Come to Say Good Bye It's hard to say good bye, but part we must. When you love what you do, when you love the people you get to do it with, when you love the way you do it, there is never a good time to leave, but there is a right time, and for me, personally and professionally, this is that right time. I wish to reiterate my gratitude to each and every single person, which I summed up in my email announcing my departure which will always be here: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/07/jack-is-going-going-goinggone.html. In parting, it's hard to convey raw emotion as, personally, words cannot describe how privileged I feel to have been affiliated and employed by Red Hat and Fedora for the better part of the last decade. To be a part of Red Hat and Fedora is to be a part of the nobility; a precious pedigree of ideological steadfastness, technological excellence, supreme work ethic, and above all else, the truest, kindest and most passionate and compassionate people. At the same time, it is awkw [Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wird nicht vollst?ndig eingef?gt.] From mel at redhat.com Fri Aug 14 21:22:43 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:22:43 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> Message-ID: <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> > Are the same things that were blocking zikula for the docs team blocking > zikula for marketing? Would it be that hard to get even an initial, > relatively blank zikula instance on servers that are not covered by the > Infrastructure change freeze and then work on polishing that? Great question. It sounds like some of them are, at least legally: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-August/000140.html (in response to http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-August/000138.html) Technically, though, it should not be that hard. This is what needs to be set up: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-August/000141.html (I don't think there's any real blocker on a test instance happening, just that nobody's stepped up to do it yet.) Robyn, is this something you'd be willing to work on? If Infra can get a test instance installed, could you take some F11 marketing content (for instance, the stuff already written up at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points) and take an hour or two to experiment with publishing those (copy-paste the content into blank articles) through the system to see what the interface/workflow/tags/feeds/etc. look like, to help give us a sense of how this setup might feel like to contribute news to and consume news from? (Or was it a different kind of help you wanted to offer?) That should put us in good shape for a right-after-F12 zikula launch for FI, but doesn't solve the temporary "until that launches in, say, January, we need a place to put content and get feeds" problem which I was hoping to tackle by getting a quick-and-dirty wp install up and skinned so we can concentrate on content for F12 while further platform work progresses in the background. That's why I'm temporarily looking into the wordpress thing. Does this make sense? --Mel From mel at redhat.com Fri Aug 14 23:24:08 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:24:08 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> Well, that was quick. Ignore my last email - seems like I misspoke. >> Are the same things that were blocking zikula for the docs team blocking >> zikula for marketing? Would it be that hard to get even an initial, >> relatively blank zikula instance on servers that are not covered by the >> Infrastructure change freeze and then work on polishing that? After a conversation in #fedora-websites with ricky and poelcat, the answer to "can we make a zikula-based FI go live for F12?" now seems like this: * we aren't sure... * but there actually aren't any good reasons why it wouldn't work, * so we should try it until we hit an actual blocker. The legal things I thought were blocking zikula for us were actually blocking zikula for docs, *not* marketing. All 3 packages we need for an FI zikula instance (zikula, zikula-module-crpTag, and zikula-module-News) are already packaged and legal-happy. And zikula is extremely easy to set up. I just followed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox, and in 14 minutes I went from "which packages should I download?" to "logged into working local instance with both modules installed." So the next step is to get a test instance up. I'm working on this right now and it should be pretty quick (I expect to have it up and running by our Tuesday meeting, given that once I get through all the "join Infrastructure!" stuff it should take no more than 14 minutes for me to do this all again). The ticket is https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/14 - again, I've got it, but if someone gets to it faster than I do (probably super-late tonight; if not, Monday) I have no objections to that. :) After it's up, we're going to need a few testers to learn how to use Zikula and try putting up a few articles (using old content from F11 as dummy text) to see how the workflow goes. Robyn, if you'd like to run forward with this once the test instance is set up, that would be immensely awesome. I expect people to get confused the first time through, so the real goal of the first test run will be to document our confusion so we can figure out how to fix it. :) (then again, it was way easier than I expected to install, so maybe it'll be easy to learn as well! I couldn't figure it out, but I was only able to spend 5 minutes trying, and didn't look for tutorials or anything.) --Mel From robyn.bergeron at gmail.com Sat Aug 15 00:09:12 2009 From: robyn.bergeron at gmail.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:09:12 -0700 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> Message-ID: <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> Sure, I'd be happy to help out with posting docs, testing things out, reporting back, etc. Question: are you planning on setting up pre-defined tags, buckets, categories, etc. for the system? Or have these even been determined - or waiting to be determined based on how the workflow feels once it's set up? I'm happy to provide feedback there - if needed - I'm kind of a document organization neat-freak (if only I could figure out how to apply this OCD trait to my closet). How will access be defined? Will there be more of a web-based "apply for access / permissions" thing, or will it be tied to my fedoraproject id? And if it is the latter, is there a specific group I should apply to to get the ball rolling? -r On 8/14/09, Mel Chua wrote: > Well, that was quick. Ignore my last email - seems like I misspoke. > >>> Are the same things that were blocking zikula for the docs team blocking >>> zikula for marketing? Would it be that hard to get even an initial, >>> relatively blank zikula instance on servers that are not covered by the >>> Infrastructure change freeze and then work on polishing that? > > After a conversation in #fedora-websites with ricky and poelcat, the > answer to "can we make a zikula-based FI go live for F12?" now seems > like this: > > * we aren't sure... > * but there actually aren't any good reasons why it wouldn't work, > * so we should try it until we hit an actual blocker. > > The legal things I thought were blocking zikula for us were actually > blocking zikula for docs, *not* marketing. All 3 packages we need for an > FI zikula instance (zikula, zikula-module-crpTag, and > zikula-module-News) are already packaged and legal-happy. And zikula is > extremely easy to set up. I just followed > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox, and in 14 > minutes I went from "which packages should I download?" to "logged into > working local instance with both modules installed." > > So the next step is to get a test instance up. I'm working on this right > now and it should be pretty quick (I expect to have it up and running by > our Tuesday meeting, given that once I get through all the "join > Infrastructure!" stuff it should take no more than 14 minutes for me to > do this all again). The ticket is > https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/14 - again, I've got it, > but if someone gets to it faster than I do (probably super-late tonight; > if not, Monday) I have no objections to that. :) > > After it's up, we're going to need a few testers to learn how to use > Zikula and try putting up a few articles (using old content from F11 as > dummy text) to see how the workflow goes. Robyn, if you'd like to run > forward with this once the test instance is set up, that would be > immensely awesome. I expect people to get confused the first time > through, so the real goal of the first test run will be to document our > confusion so we can figure out how to fix it. :) > > (then again, it was way easier than I expected to install, so maybe > it'll be easy to learn as well! I couldn't figure it out, but I was only > able to spend 5 minutes trying, and didn't look for tutorials or anything.) > > --Mel > From mel at redhat.com Sat Aug 15 01:19:12 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:19:12 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> > Sure, I'd be happy to help out with posting docs, testing things out, > reporting back, etc. Thanks! Your questions are great - we don't have firm answers for them, but here's what I think they should be (as usual, whoever does the work gets the final say ;) so if you have good ideas, let's do them! > Question: are you planning on setting up pre-defined tags, buckets, > categories, etc. for the system? Yes. There will definitely be categories, and probably tags. There's a draft list up at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Content_categories but this is by no means the final say. > Or have these even been determined - > or waiting to be determined based on how the workflow feels once it's > set up? Mostly the latter. We need to talk with News (pcalarco) on what they'd like for workflow, but ultimately someone just has to Decide and Start Doing Stuff. Is that something you'd be interested in? As long as the front-end categories/tags/URLs stay the same, we can start with a draft workflow and then adjust as needed, depending on how it feels once it's set up. > I'm happy to provide feedback there - if needed Oh, it's needed! > How will access be defined? Will there be more of a web-based "apply > for access / permissions" thing, or will it be tied to my > fedoraproject id? And if it is the latter, is there a specific group I > should apply to to get the ball rolling? Ideally, it'll be tied to FAS. I'm not sure how much work that will be to hook up, though - so we'll start with just "create a web-based account" until that looks like it isn't going to work much longer. (Which should be pretty soon; my personal panic-meter on this is probably going to kick in around a dozen test users or so.) Maybe not the answers you were looking for, but that's my best shot at it at the moment. :) --Mel From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sat Aug 15 01:42:21 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:42:21 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090815014221.GD20286@alpha.rzhou.org> On 2009-08-14 09:19:12 PM, Mel Chua wrote: >> How will access be defined? Will there be more of a web-based "apply >> for access / permissions" thing, or will it be tied to my >> fedoraproject id? And if it is the latter, is there a specific group I >> should apply to to get the ball rolling? > > Ideally, it'll be tied to FAS. I'm not sure how much work that will be > to hook up, though - so we'll start with just "create a web-based > account" until that looks like it isn't going to work much longer. > (Which should be pretty soon; my personal panic-meter on this is > probably going to kick in around a dozen test users or so.) I think docs has already done a good amount of work for FAS integration, so definitely ask them about that :-) Hopefully this kind of thing won't need particularly fine grained permissions though - I don't know how much of that is supported by the FAS plugin that the docs team had. I'd definitely like to see the code for that somewhere though :-) Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Your questions are great - we don't have firm answers for them, but > here's what I think they should be (as usual, whoever does the work gets the > final say ;) so if you have good ideas, let's do them! > >> Question: are you planning on setting up pre-defined tags, buckets, >> categories, etc. for the system? > > Yes. There will definitely be categories, and probably tags. There's a draft > list up at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Content_categories > but this is by no means the final say. > >> Or have these even been determined - >> or waiting to be determined based on how the workflow feels once it's >> set up? > > Mostly the latter. We need to talk with News (pcalarco) on what they'd like > for workflow, but ultimately someone just has to Decide and Start Doing > Stuff. Is that something you'd be interested in? Yes. Let me know when you get something up, I will get familiarized and then we can get something going for people to start throwing darts at :) > > As long as the front-end categories/tags/URLs stay the same, we can start > with a draft workflow and then adjust as needed, depending on how it feels > once it's set up. > >> I'm happy to provide feedback there - if needed > > Oh, it's needed! > >> How will access be defined? Will there be more of a web-based "apply >> for access / permissions" thing, or will it be tied to my >> fedoraproject id? And if it is the latter, is there a specific group I >> should apply to to get the ball rolling? > > Ideally, it'll be tied to FAS. I'm not sure how much work that will be to > hook up, though - so we'll start with just "create a web-based account" > until that looks like it isn't going to work much longer. (Which should be > pretty soon; my personal panic-meter on this is probably going to kick in > around a dozen test users or so.) > > Maybe not the answers you were looking for, but that's my best shot at it at > the moment. :) > > --Mel > From steven.moix at axianet.ch Sat Aug 15 10:02:48 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:02:48 +0200 Subject: Fedora 12 release announcement Message-ID: <4A8687C8.3020605@axianet.ch> Hello all, Sorry not to continue the old thread about the F12 alpha announcement [1], but I'm new to this list, so I couldn't reply ;) As Paul suggested, I made a complete release announcement based on a template we used in the marketing group for F11. The release announcement is located on [2]. If you don't mind, I'd like you to use this "flat" URL instead of [3]...an inclusion in the F12 Alpha release notes also needs to be corrected. The content of the page should be pretty final, but I'd like you to have a look at it to add/remove features...I simply chose the ones I found interesting for *me*. Also please correct my English if you don't mind. 1: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-August/msg00100.html 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcement_for_F12_Alpha_Release Have a nice day Steven (Fedora Marketing) From simon at zikula.org Sat Aug 15 15:02:42 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:02:42 +0100 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <20090815014553.GE20286@alpha.rzhou.org> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> <20090815014221.GD20286@alpha.rzhou.org> <20090815014553.GE20286@alpha.rzhou.org> Message-ID: <007a01ca1db9$71ec7e80$55c57b80$@org> > > I'd definitely like to see the code for that somewhere though :-) > Oops, and just a few seconds later, I discover > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-zikula/ with its git repo at > git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-zikula.git. And if that wasn't > enough, it's already in the infrastructure repo, so you can just yum > install zikula-module-fedora-fasauth when you set it up on a publictest > machine. I am responsible for zikula-fasauth (yes, I'm lurking on most Fedora lists). FasAuth does the following: When you attempt to login it: 1. Checks you are a valid user in FAS 2. Checks that you are a member of a select few groups (CRA, cms-admin I think) 3. If you've been already, you get logged in 4. If you haven't been, you get a zikula mirror-account created 5. From here you are logged in Your password and username will always be controlled by FAS, and you have a shell account on the Zikula system for Zikula's access control and basic functionality. Access control and permissioning is handled by the Zikula system (we agreed with docs this would be better than adding loads of groups to FAS). I also recommend having a fallback vanilla Zikula admin account on the instance, so that should for any reason FAS go down (maintenance, error etc) we can still admin the website. Simon From stickster at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 13:15:07 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:15:07 -0400 Subject: Congratulations Message-ID: <20090817131507.GC3417@localhost.localdomain> Red Hat has announced its 2009 RHCE of the Year winners, and if you look here, you'll see a very recognizable name: http://bit.ly/g6Zto Congratulations to all the winners, including our very own John Rose, whose participation in Fedora is highlightedin the announcement. John, thanks to all you continue to do for Fedora, and it's wonderful to see your many achievements recognized with this award. I look forward to seeing you in Chicago in a few weeks! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Aug 17 13:25:34 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:25:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Congratulations In-Reply-To: <20090817131507.GC3417@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090817131507.GC3417@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Congratulations to all the winners, including our very own John Rose, > whose participation in Fedora is highlightedin the announcement. John, > thanks to all you continue to do for Fedora, and it's wonderful to see > your many achievements recognized with this award. I look forward to > seeing you in Chicago in a few weeks! That's fantastic! Congrats, John. With Jeroen van Meeuwen as the 2008 RHCE of the Year in Europe, the Fedora community has produced one winner in each of the last two years. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Aug 17 13:52:34 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:52:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Congratulations In-Reply-To: References: <20090817131507.GC3417@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > With Jeroen van Meeuwen as the 2008 RHCE of the Year in Europe, the > Fedora community has produced one winner in each of the last two > years. Three years out of four for Fedora Ambassadors, my mistake! 2006 -- Marco Palazzotti (Europe) 2008 -- Jeroen van Meeuwen (Europe) 2009 -- John T. Rose (North America) --Max From delhage at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 14:11:23 2009 From: delhage at gmail.com (Lars Delhage) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:11:23 +0200 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Congratulations In-Reply-To: <20090817131507.GC3417@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 15:15, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Red Hat has announced its 2009 RHCE of the Year winners, and if you > look here, you'll see a very recognizable name: > > http://bit.ly/g6Zto > > Congratulations to all the winners, including our very own John Rose, > whose participation in Fedora is highlightedin the announcement. > John, thanks to all you continue to do for Fedora, and it's wonderful > to see your many achievements recognized with this award. ?I look > forward to seeing you in Chicago in a few weeks! > It is with absolute delight that I read this. 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I don't have bandwidth to get to those two things this week, actually, so if some Infrastructure-minded person would like to take on a relatively smallish pair of tasks, feel free to go for it. :) --Mel From taljurf at fedoraproject.org Mon Aug 17 22:14:24 2009 From: taljurf at fedoraproject.org (tareq aljurf) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:14:24 +0300 Subject: Fedora Pens and Mousepads Message-ID: <12d8a2fa0908171514v16765b6fq25d9ac56bd7403dd@mail.gmail.com> How can i get Fedora Labeled pens and mousepads to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia -- Tareq Al Jurf Fedora Ambassador Riyadh, Saudi Arabia taljurf at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robyn.bergeron at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 23:45:08 2009 From: robyn.bergeron at gmail.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:45:08 -0700 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A89D669.9090301@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908142038q403f4d2bt1c0f27172441aa66@mail.gmail.com> <4A89D669.9090301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <5d4d90c90908171645l6238297el3758a37e79f31d4e@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: >> Yes. ?Let me know when you get something up, I will get familiarized >> and then we can get something going for people to start throwing darts >> at :) > > It's up - http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula - have fun! I registered, but the mail with my password was never received.. :) > > I did not install the fedora-zikula or zikula-fasauth packages yet. I don't > have bandwidth to get to those two things this week, actually, so if some > Infrastructure-minded person would like to take on a relatively smallish > pair of tasks, feel free to go for it. :) > > --Mel > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From simon at zikula.org Mon Aug 17 23:52:18 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:52:18 +0100 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <5d4d90c90908171645l6238297el3758a37e79f31d4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908142038q403f4d2bt1c0f27172441aa66@mail.gmail.com> <4A89D669.9090301@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908171645l6238297el3758a37e79f31d4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ab01ca1f95$c26f4260$474dc720$@org> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > >> Yes. ?Let me know when you get something up, I will get familiarized > >> and then we can get something going for people to start throwing > darts > >> at :) > > > > It's up - http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula - have fun! > > I registered, but the mail with my password was never received.. :) You'll probably find that publictest machines don't have a mailserver installed. An admin will need to set you up with a default password. Also, registration shouldn't be necessary with the fasauth module I built - but it does need to be installed. Simon From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 18 00:39:00 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:39:00 -0400 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <00ab01ca1f95$c26f4260$474dc720$@org> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <20090814024828.GA30900@alpha.rzhou.org> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908142038q403f4d2bt1c0f27172441aa66@mail.gmail.com> <4A89D669.9090301@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908171645l6238297el3758a37e79f31d4e@mail.gmail.com> <00ab01ca1f95$c26f4260$474dc720$@org> Message-ID: <4A89F824.3000400@redhat.com> >> I registered, but the mail with my password was never received.. :) > > You'll probably find that publictest machines don't have a mailserver > installed. An admin will need to set you up with a default password. Also, > registration shouldn't be necessary with the fasauth module I built - but it > does need to be installed. Robyn's password has been emailed to her. I'm installing the fasauth module now. (Well, trying. Popping into #fedora-admin once again...) --Mel From robyn.bergeron at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 00:57:47 2009 From: robyn.bergeron at gmail.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:57:47 -0700 Subject: Temporary FI platform In-Reply-To: <4A89F824.3000400@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> <4A85D5A3.2010905@redhat.com> <4A85F218.3070005@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908141709r40293a4ey226d9b67f345a5ab@mail.gmail.com> <4A860D10.70804@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908142038q403f4d2bt1c0f27172441aa66@mail.gmail.com> <4A89D669.9090301@redhat.com> <5d4d90c90908171645l6238297el3758a37e79f31d4e@mail.gmail.com> <00ab01ca1f95$c26f4260$474dc720$@org> <4A89F824.3000400@redhat.com> Message-ID: <5d4d90c90908171757x27fad3d9maf7f2f6b85cb8608@mail.gmail.com> So..... I'm in, but, anything that I'm entering in is not being saved. I updated my profile info with my full name, etc and submitted it, was returned a happy green box saying "Done! Personal info saved" - but nothing actually saved. Same for news article - did an action - submit article, clicked the green checkbox, but its not passing through, although it says "done! - news article created." On 8/17/09, Mel Chua wrote: >>> I registered, but the mail with my password was never received.. :) >> >> You'll probably find that publictest machines don't have a mailserver >> installed. An admin will need to set you up with a default password. >> Also, >> registration shouldn't be necessary with the fasauth module I built - but >> it >> does need to be installed. > > Robyn's password has been emailed to her. I'm installing the fasauth > module now. (Well, trying. Popping into #fedora-admin once again...) > > --Mel > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From simon at zikula.org Tue Aug 18 03:17:19 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:17:19 +0100 Subject: AuthFAS Zikula Patch In-Reply-To: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> References: <4A839B0E.3040803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <000c01ca1fb2$66a1a5f0$33e4f1d0$@org> One patch file. Warning: developed entirely without testing, but in theory it should work... Simon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See you all tomorrow! --Mel --> sleep From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Aug 18 10:44:17 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:44:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora Pens and Mousepads In-Reply-To: <12d8a2fa0908171514v16765b6fq25d9ac56bd7403dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <12d8a2fa0908171514v16765b6fq25d9ac56bd7403dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, tareq aljurf wrote: > How can i get Fedora Labeled pens and mousepads to Riyadh, Saudi > Arabia Well, we don't have any right now, which makes it a bit difficult. :) You could find someone who is capable of producing those items locally, and then the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee can authorize some budget for you to have them produced, and we either pay the bill directly or pay you back. Also, just so you know, emails about pens, CDs, etc. are better for Fedora Ambassadors List than Fedora Marketing List. But the above is the same answer you'd get on Ambassadors List. How much stuff are you interested in having? Is it for an event of some sort? --Max From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 18 15:06:34 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:06:34 -0400 Subject: Talking points: final call Message-ID: <4A8AC37A.9060505@redhat.com> Paul started a list of talking points for this release: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_talking_points The first thing we're going to do at the meeting today is freeze this list so that we can start moving forward with Docs and News to write them - so if you have any things you'd like to see included, now is the time to add them. --Mel From stickster at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 16:26:47 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:26:47 -0400 Subject: FUDCon Message-ID: <20090818162647.GP3817@localhost.localdomain> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-August/msg00007.html So, with the FUDCon announcement out the door (finally), Mel Chua and I are looking into how we can get information from Toronto area LUGs. Specifically, we want data on what they'd like to see in the way of user content. Our initial idea is a track or two of user-focused instruction, and we'd like to be able to have one of those tracks culminate in some sort of participation, like filing a bug. But the most important goal of a user track should be to make the user feel confident in a set of basic skills so that they can enjoy Fedora, and potentially contribute to it as a result. So this message is not meant to kick off a thread of "Here's what we should offer." Instead, I want it to make people think about "Here's how we should find out from our prospective audience what they want to see." -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 16:28:52 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:28:52 -0400 Subject: FUDCon In-Reply-To: <20090818162647.GP3817@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090818162647.GP3817@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090818162852.GQ3817@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:26:47PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-August/msg00007.html > > So, with the FUDCon announcement out the door (finally), Mel Chua and > I are looking into how we can get information from Toronto area LUGs. > Specifically, we want data on what they'd like to see in the way of > user content. > > Our initial idea is a track or two of user-focused instruction, and > we'd like to be able to have one of those tracks culminate in some > sort of participation, like filing a bug. But the most important goal > of a user track should be to make the user feel confident in a set of > basic skills so that they can enjoy Fedora, and potentially contribute > to it as a result. > > So this message is not meant to kick off a thread of "Here's what we > should offer." Instead, I want it to make people think about "Here's > how we should find out from our prospective audience what they want to > see." And it looks like Mel has a ticket filed for this already! :-) https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/18 -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Tue Aug 18 16:33:47 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:33:47 -0400 Subject: FUDCon In-Reply-To: <20090818162647.GP3817@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090818162647.GP3817@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A8AD7EB.60107@webpath.net> On 08/18/2009 12:26 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-August/msg00007.html > > So, with the FUDCon announcement out the door (finally), Mel Chua and > I are looking into how we can get information from Toronto area LUGs. > Specifically, we want data on what they'd like to see in the way of > user content. > > Our initial idea is a track or two of user-focused instruction, and > we'd like to be able to have one of those tracks culminate in some > sort of participation, like filing a bug. But the most important goal > of a user track should be to make the user feel confident in a set of > basic skills so that they can enjoy Fedora, and potentially contribute > to it as a result. > > So this message is not meant to kick off a thread of "Here's what we > should offer." Instead, I want it to make people think about "Here's > how we should find out from our prospective audience what they want to > see." > > I have some contacts in southern Ontario. I'll see what I can dig up. ~Karlie From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 18 21:07:20 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:07:20 -0400 Subject: Meeting minutes 2009-08-18 Message-ID: <4A8B1808.9080104@redhat.com> Also on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009. All hail Robyn, our FI Workflow Czar! And a huge thank you to Simon for helping us get zikula up and running and with FAS log-in. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-18/fedora-meeting.2009-08-18-20.03.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-18/fedora-meeting.2009-08-18-20.03.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-18/fedora-meeting.2009-08-18-20.03.log.html We have a number of open tickets that need to be taken, and everyone's alpha tickets should be closed this week, so take a look at https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report/3 and check the stuff that's on your plate. In particular, we need someone to drive forward with the list of talking points, which was frozen today, and get them + feature profiles written, if someone feels like putting their editorial hat on for a few weeks. --Mel From taljurf at fedoraproject.org Tue Aug 18 23:44:09 2009 From: taljurf at fedoraproject.org (tareq aljurf) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:44:09 +0300 Subject: Fedora Pens and Mousepads Message-ID: <12d8a2fa0908181644h3b7495c5i66d89f8337a8302e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Max Spevack wrote: >Well, we don't have any right now, which makes it a bit difficult. :) >You could find someone who is capable of producing those items locally, >and then the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee can authorize some >budget for you to have them produced, and we either pay the bill >directly or pay you back. >Also, just so you know, emails about pens, CDs, etc. are better for >Fedora Ambassadors List than Fedora Marketing List. >But the above is the same answer you'd get on Ambassadors List. >How much stuff are you interested in having? Is it for an event of some >sort? >--Max no its not an event only to spread fedora wider so i wont need a lot in the beginning once i found a page on the wiki on fedoraproject.org about paying bills and tickets but i couldnt find it again. -- Tareq Al Jurf Fedora Ambassador Riyadh, Saudi Arabia taljurf at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:31:26 -0400 Subject: Alpha announcement checked In-Reply-To: <4A8B987C.1090109@redhat.com> References: <4A8B987C.1090109@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090819133126.GE4942@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:15:24AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: > I checked and updated version numbers (for instance, GNOME 2.27.90 beta > is the latest GNOME because GNOME 2.28 isn't yet out) and tried to make > the wording flow a little nicer. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement > > Steven, it's all yours. https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/16 I did just a smidge more fine tuning this morning. I'm going to cc the Docs team so they know this has been worked on. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 13:47:42 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:47:42 +0200 Subject: Doing Evolutionary Design on Fedora :) : a Piezoelectric Pipe-Crawling Robot" Message-ID: <50baabb30908190647w2cd1a4efmcec000f4f0002b2c@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, I can across this paper which explains how Carnegie Mellon University and NASA Marshall Space Flight Center use ngspice on fedora for their "Evolutionary Design of Fault-Tolerant Analog Control for a Piezoelectric Pipe-Crawling Robot" http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/~gholling/home/files/HollingerGECCO.pdf I just thought of sharing it with you Chitlesh From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Aug 19 16:16:54 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:16:54 +0200 Subject: Alpha announcement checked In-Reply-To: <20090819133126.GE4942@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A8B987C.1090109@redhat.com> <20090819133126.GE4942@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A8C2576.6000702@axianet.ch> Hi, Thanks for your edits. I'll send it to the NDN 2 days before the actual release. Steven On 08/19/2009 03:31 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:15:24AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: >> I checked and updated version numbers (for instance, GNOME 2.27.90 beta >> is the latest GNOME because GNOME 2.28 isn't yet out) and tried to make >> the wording flow a little nicer. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement >> >> Steven, it's all yours. https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/16 > > I did just a smidge more fine tuning this morning. I'm going to cc > the Docs team so they know this has been worked on. > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Aug 19 17:46:33 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:46:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora Pens and Mousepads In-Reply-To: <12d8a2fa0908181644h3b7495c5i66d89f8337a8302e@mail.gmail.com> References: <12d8a2fa0908181644h3b7495c5i66d89f8337a8302e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, tareq aljurf wrote: > no its not an event only to spread fedora wider so i wont need a lot > in the beginning > > once i found a page on the wiki on fedoraproject.org about paying > bills and tickets but i couldnt find it again. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements Take a look, let me know what you want to do. You can email me privately if you like. --Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Aug 20 05:17:32 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:47:32 +0530 Subject: Fedora 12 Alpha To Bring Many Linux Desktop Improvements Message-ID: <4A8CDC6C.2000300@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_12alpha_pre&num=1 "Bettering the Linux desktop in Fedora 12 is support for more web-cameras, Empathy replacing Pidgin as the default instant messaging client, mobile broadband enhancements in NetworkManager, full IPv6 support for NetworkManager, PolicyKit 1.0 integration, improved power management, and integration of PackageKit Browser Plugin and PackageKit Command Not Found Plugin" Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Aug 20 07:02:14 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:32:14 +0530 Subject: Fedora 12 Alpha To Bring Many Linux Desktop Improvements In-Reply-To: <4A8CDC6C.2000300@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A8CDC6C.2000300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A8CF4F6.10405@fedoraproject.org> On 08/20/2009 10:47 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_12alpha_pre&num=1 > > "Bettering the Linux desktop in Fedora 12 is support for more > web-cameras, Empathy replacing Pidgin as the default instant messaging > client, mobile broadband enhancements in NetworkManager, full IPv6 > support for NetworkManager, PolicyKit 1.0 integration, improved power > management, and integration of PackageKit Browser Plugin and PackageKit > Command Not Found Plugin" > Digg It http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fedora_12_Alpha_To_Bring_Many_Linux_Desktop_Improvements Rahul From slobberbone at orange.fr Thu Aug 20 07:20:04 2009 From: slobberbone at orange.fr (Alexandre Frandemiche) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:20:04 +0200 Subject: Fedora 12 Alpha To Bring Many Linux Desktop Improvements In-Reply-To: <4A8CF4F6.10405@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A8CDC6C.2000300@fedoraproject.org> <4A8CF4F6.10405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A8CF924.1080009@orange.fr> Le 20/08/2009 09:02, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Empathy replacing Pidgin as the default instant messaging > client, Hello, everybody, just one question about these news : Why this replacement ? 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URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Thu Aug 20 10:51:16 2009 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:51:16 +0200 Subject: Mozilla Participate-week Message-ID: <4A8D2AA4.4040002@gmx.de> Hy, just had this info im my mailbox and thought this could be a opportunity to step in (e.g. olpc, education, etc.) --- snip (auto translated from [0], [0a] )--- from14.th until 21th September the "Mozilla Participate-week" [1]takes place. Here committed people, who know to have already discovered and use the Internet for itself those help, are which Novice so to be called are. That for example seniors can be, who do not know, how the Internet functions, or nonprofit organizations, which want to experience, how they can use social networks for itself. Active ones, which want to engage themselves already now for the going through week, can likewise do that. Mozilla looks for still translator, proposals for new partners or aides, which recruit for the going through week. Mozilla offers today around 18:00 a on-line Workshop for volunteer to clock. --- snap --- What do you think? Maybe somebody is already in to this?! [0]=http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2009/14593.html [0a]= http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-res&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pro-linux.de%2Fnews%2F2009%2F14593.html&lp=de_en&btnTrUrl=%C3%9Cbersetzen [1]=http://mozillaservice.org/ or http://www.betterplace.org/mozilla [2]=http://chickswhoclick.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/how-do-you-fit-into-mozilla-service-week-find-out/ mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org From stickster at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 19:18:53 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:18:53 -0400 Subject: Fedora 12 Alpha release notes: TODO In-Reply-To: <4A8D6EB0.9040104@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A887C51.4070203@fedoraproject.org> <4A8D6EB0.9040104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090820191853.GH12829@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 09:11:36PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 08/17/2009 03:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I see a lot of discussions/meetings etc but not not enough people > > editing the release notes to generate actual content. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes > > > > If you want to help, the following things would be good to add: > > > > * Screenshot of NM broadband wizard > > > > * Replace the GNOME Volume screenshot with one taken with the default > > Fedora GNOME theme See below. > > * Attach the Ogg Video of Plymouth bootup to the relevant section > > > > * Expand the PackageKit section with more details. Take a Ogg Theora > > Video of PackageKit command line plugin in action. See below. > > * Add details on Empathy - protocols, feature esp in comparison to > > Pidgin and missing features that are planned to be filled in before the > > general release. Would help set expectations. > > Noone interested? Sound prefs: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/images/screenshots/f12-sound-prefs/ PackageKit command not found plugin: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/video/pk-cnf-plugin.ogg This was super-simple to do, I just installed istanbul, created a new user account to run it, and found a random command not already installed. OK, who else is going to step up and try one or two of these items? Putting f-marketing-l on the CC just to see if we can catch anyone there looking for easy ways to help. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 25 08:56:31 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:56:31 -0400 Subject: Reminder: #fedora-meeting, 20:00 UTC Message-ID: <4A93A73F.9020000@redhat.com> .nextmarketingmeeting mchua: 11 hours, 8 minutes, and 44 seconds https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings --Mel "The same thing we do every day, Pinky. Try to expand the Fedora user and contributor base!" From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Aug 25 16:41:18 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:41:18 +0200 Subject: NDN: Spread the news about Fedora 12 Alpha! Message-ID: <4A94142E.8030300@axianet.ch> Hello dear Fedora News Distribution Network people, As you may have noticed, Fedora 12 Alpha was released. You can read the full release announcement on [1]. Feel free to translate it in your language, select the important bits from your point of view and submit this good news to as many websites/magazines as possible :) Meanwhile, it would be a good idea to clean up and add things the list of publications in you language [2]. Also please follow the comments on your news during the following days to kill some Myths [3], and report every news story to the press Archive page [4]. 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_myths 4: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_archive Thanks, your work is very appreciated! Steven From mel at redhat.com Tue Aug 25 21:28:00 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: Meeting minutes 2009-08-25 Message-ID: <4A945760.5060706@redhat.com> Also at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2009. Happy Alpha Day, everyone! Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-25/fedora-meeting.2009-08-25-20.02.log.html Later tonight I'll be sending out two more updates - a FI project update and a "Marketing: Alpha Is Past, Now What?" update that should (hopefully) answer questions about where we are and where we're headed, since a lot of us are transitioning back to school or getting back from vacation and such. Whee! --Mel PS: This is the farthest over I can ever remember running a meeting (6 minutes past the scheduled time, 4 minutes over an hour - we started a little late). August heat is getting to me too... ;) From mel at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 03:14:01 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:14:01 -0400 Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <4A9417CF.7080805@gmail.com> References: <003f01ca252c$fadee1e0$f09ca5a0$@org> <4A938A3E.4050308@redhat.com> <1251200110.5385.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A9417CF.7080805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> Marketing folks: We need packaging (or packager-recruiting) help. I'm going to be traveling in some way for the next 12 hours, but in that time we need to find someone to do two simple packages (it looks like they'll be extremely fast for an experienced packager, and Toshio stands ready to review them tonight whenever they are ready). We need the two modules listed at http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-August/000185.html for Fedora Insight, preferably within the next 24 hours. We need these packages in order to have RSS feeds and events blocks on the F12 deployment of FI. Can anyone package or help find someone who can package? Thanks! --Mel --- >> We would need them earlier though, because the theming depends on the >> modules. E.g. right now the theme templates I'm writing depend heavily >> on the news module and the themes would have to change if we use >> different modules for different widgets on the page :-/ >> > Do we have someone who can package them tonight? I can do a review for > licensing and bundling which would allow us to copy the package to the > Fedora Infrastructure repo until they are in Fedora and EPEL. If we > don't even have someone who can get them packaged up then it sounds like > it's a bit late for hitting F12. > > -Toshio From bob at fedoraunity.org Wed Aug 26 08:18:08 2009 From: bob at fedoraunity.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20799694.51901251274688112.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> ----- "Mel Chua" wrote: > Marketing folks: > > We need packaging (or packager-recruiting) help. I'm going to be > traveling in some way for the next 12 hours, but in that time we need > to > find someone to do two simple packages (it looks like they'll be > extremely fast for an experienced packager, and Toshio stands ready to > > review them tonight whenever they are ready). > > We need the two modules listed at > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-August/000185.html > > for Fedora Insight, preferably within the next 24 hours. We need these > > packages in order to have RSS feeds and events blocks on the F12 > deployment of FI. > > Can anyone package or help find someone who can package? > > Thanks! > > --Mel > Well I have spent several hours pimping this around in a couple venues to several potential victims. Suggested that they reply to this message to prevent duplication of efforts, lets hope for the best. -- Bob From bob at fedoraunity.org Wed Aug 26 08:41:45 2009 From: bob at fedoraunity.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <2953300.51971251276105772.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> ----- "Mel Chua" wrote: > Marketing folks: > > We need packaging (or packager-recruiting) help. I'm going to be > traveling in some way for the next 12 hours, but in that time we need > to > find someone to do two simple packages (it looks like they'll be > extremely fast for an experienced packager, and Toshio stands ready to > > review them tonight whenever they are ready). > > We need the two modules listed at > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-August/000185.html > > for Fedora Insight, preferably within the next 24 hours. We need these > > packages in order to have RSS feeds and events blocks on the F12 > deployment of FI. > > Can anyone package or help find someone who can package? > > Thanks! > The always awesome Chitlesh Goorah is working on zikula-feeds. -- Bob From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 08:54:09 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:54:09 +0200 Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <2953300.51971251276105772.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> <2953300.51971251276105772.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30908260154r64203bb8i88eaba8cb3353b4e@mail.gmail.com> Hello Mel and Bob, I understand that you need it quickly. I have created initial SRPMS for both: * http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/RPMS/zikula-module-feeds-2.1-1.fc11.src.rpm * http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/RPMS/zikula-module-PageMaster-0.3.1-1.fc11.src.rpm However, I currently have to leave home and be back in 6hours. So these SRPMS are not perfect yet at the same time I haven't look in details what zikula is. Else in the meantime, someone can continue the work :) Well these are only for testing with your zikula. Tell me if it works afterwards I will tune the specs with respect to fedora packaging guidelines and clean the rpmlint warnings. you can rebuild these srpm with rpmbuild --rebuild SRPM Chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 10:00:32 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:00:32 +0200 Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <50baabb30908260154r64203bb8i88eaba8cb3353b4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> <2953300.51971251276105772.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> <50baabb30908260154r64203bb8i88eaba8cb3353b4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30908260300l6bcf05bawa9d9abab4d34097a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Hello Mel and Bob again, I got some time to improve the srpms http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/zikula/ I am not familiar with zikula so I can't file package reviews for these. Hence either * you find someone who can maintain them * or you can co-maintain them with me and I will guide/mentor you through the process, but you will still need another reviewer you can rebuild these srpm with rpmbuild --rebuild SRPM regards, Chitlesh From mel at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 18:37:13 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:37:13 -0400 Subject: Meeting minutes 2009-08-25 In-Reply-To: <4A945760.5060706@redhat.com> References: <4A945760.5060706@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4A9580D9.2090205@redhat.com> > Later tonight I'll be sending out two more updates - a FI project update > and a "Marketing: Alpha Is Past, Now What?" update that should > (hopefully) answer questions about where we are and where we're headed, > since a lot of us are transitioning back to school or getting back from > vacation and such. Sorry for the delay; I'll send these out after my afternoon meetings today instead. Last night was hit by some last-minute zikula stuff cut short by travel (a huge thank-you to Bob and Chitlesh for stepping up to save the day here!) --Mel, in Raleigh at the moment From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Aug 26 19:08:47 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:38:47 +0530 Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <50baabb30908260300l6bcf05bawa9d9abab4d34097a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> <2953300.51971251276105772.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> <50baabb30908260154r64203bb8i88eaba8cb3353b4e@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30908260300l6bcf05bawa9d9abab4d34097a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A95883F.7060203@fedoraproject.org> On 08/26/2009 03:30 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello Mel and Bob again, > > I got some time to improve the srpms > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/zikula/ > > I am not familiar with zikula so I can't file package reviews for > these. Hence either > * you find someone who can maintain them > * or you can co-maintain them with me and I will guide/mentor you > through the process, > > but you will still need another reviewer Thanks Chitlesh. Made some minor changes and submitted them for review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519482 Rahul From simon at zikula.org Wed Aug 26 23:08:35 2009 From: simon at zikula.org (Simon Birtwistle) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:08:35 +0100 Subject: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <4A95883F.7060203@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A94A879.6030905@redhat.com> <2953300.51971251276105772.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> <50baabb30908260154r64203bb8i88eaba8cb3353b4e@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30908260300l6bcf05bawa9d9abab4d34097a@mail.gmail.com> <4A95883F.7060203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <004a01ca26a2$246ea970$6d4bfc50$@org> > On 08/26/2009 03:30 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Hello Mel and Bob again, > > > > I got some time to improve the srpms > > > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/zikula/ > > > > I am not familiar with zikula so I can't file package reviews for > > these. Hence either > > * you find someone who can maintain them > > * or you can co-maintain them with me and I will guide/mentor you > > through the process, > > > > but you will still need another reviewer > > Thanks Chitlesh. > > Made some minor changes and submitted them for review > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519482 This sort of reply to an urgent request of Fedora volunteers continues to amaze me. Thanks all of you for stepping up to be counted. Simon From mel at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 23:24:29 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:24:29 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Fedora Insight Zikula Instance - please help us find a packager In-Reply-To: <18556796.52031251276646363.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <18556796.52031251276646363.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: <4A95C42D.7090101@redhat.com> Truly, Bob is a Recruiter of Awesome. > The always awesome Chitlesh Goorah is working on zikula-feeds. And the amazing Rahul Sundaram has submitted both. Feeds: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519482 Pagemaster: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 Toshio, how quickly can we get these reviewed? --Mel, who is in awe From mel at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 23:34:36 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:34:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora Insight status Message-ID: <4A95C68C.6090904@redhat.com> To keep everyone in the loop - here's what's up (see log at end of email). As promised, I'll be updating the actual project page to reflect status later tonight (must find food first; stomach rumbly) - progress is *extremely* rapid right now, so keeping everything in sync will be a challenge. For future reference for where these discussions will be taking place: zikula-deployment-related things (modules, packaging, infrastructure, theming, etc) will all be on the logistics list. FI-content/workflow-related-things will all be on the marketing list. There will be a lot of overlap for the next few weeks, since the modules we're working on for deployment heavily affect the workflow we'll be using for our content. If you're on both lists, you'll get everything. If you're only concerned with zikula deployment and don't care about the details of how FI content will function, watch logistics. If you're only concerned with FI as a platform for marketing materials and don't care about the details of how that platform gets set up, watch marketing. We might have a few torrents of information on this over the next few weeks, as I will be erring on the side of transparency (information on what is happening available to everybody all the time). In particular, IRC conversations on FI zikula deployment will be summarized (and logged when possible) and sent to list - thanks to Rahul for the transparency-poke. We're moving fast, so things are chaotic. Thanks for keeping up and putting up with the construction mud and noise - I am *amazed* at how this is progressing. You folks rock. --Mel --- itbegins> mchua: Work overtook me the last couple of nights - how are we doing with Zikula? itbegins: hey! mmcgrath was looking for you in #fedora-admin earlier about that, actually. itbegins: he's getting it up on staging for us, but the fasauth plugin isn't working - it seemed to work when manually installed (grab source from git repo, stick in modules folder) but when the package was yum installed. mchua: Shoot, the package is out of date mchua: The code changes I made need to be mirrored into the package I completely forgot itbegins: EvilBob went packager-hunting last night, and was successful - Chitlesh packaged at least one of the two modules you were looking for. * mchua looks to see which one. itbegins: zikula-feeds. and mether is going to submit them for review. itbegins: afaik, we still need pagemaster packaged and submitted and all that. If we get pagemaster done, we might be able to do this properly the first time - I can work on pulling it all together and walk mizmo through converting her templates if we just have feeds, that satisfies mizmo's biggest need when she was templating things itbegins: this strikes me as a decent summary of activity in the last 24 hours, so I'm going to send the last few lines of this log to the marketing and logistics mailing list as a holdover for the better project status updates I should be writing tonight. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519483 looks like we got both itbegins: WOW. That... awesome. *Both* packages. Wow. *torrent of gratitude towards Bob, Chitlesh, and Rahul* yes, I was impresed to say the least From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Aug 29 20:43:33 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:13:33 +0530 Subject: Fedora 12 Beta Release Notes: How you can help Message-ID: <4A9992F5.5020602@fedoraproject.org> Hi, As I noted in the last marketing meeting could have done a better than with the release notes for the Alpha release than we did. I just ran out of time. The Beta release is schedule at 2009-10-13. So we don't really have too much time. As promised, here are more details. The Beta release notes is a important source of information for our users, testers, ambassadors, even fellow developers and press for that release. So I am asking you all to help you a bit. Here is how: I have "open sourced" my process of finding information and my notes and copied over all that information to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Beta_release_notes If you don't have much time, take one item in this list and add more information. I will also help you avoid even clicking on a link and copy the same information below: Quick notes: * Hybrid ISO - earlier revision in Alpha release notes history. Confirm that it works well before adding it here * Status of http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/ in Fedora? How well does it work? * Moblin - Explain in detail with potentially a screencast * GNOME Shell - Ogg Screencast possibly with voice over * Yum Presto - In GNOME and KDE groups. What about delta rpm generation? * http://live.gnome.org/GTK%2B/ClientSideWindows - Eclipse and Adobe Reader needs a workaround * Abrt - whats the status? * Anaconda MDRaid - Explain in detail * Lower Process Capabilities * Contact KDE SIG and gather important changes. Phonon has changed to gstreamer backend in Alpha release and was not mentioned. So call it out in the Beta release. Additional sources: * Look at F11 Preview release notes and use it as a template. It matches the beta this release because of rel eng decision to tweak the release process a bit * Read rawhide reports in between alpha and beta release for new packages as well as import changes worth noting here * Quickly skimp through all threads in fedora-devel and fedora-test list for note worthy changes * Read Planet Fedora and reference developer blogs when important changes are mentioned * Consult with QA team and make sure note worth issues are mentioned. If anything needs explicit testing, highlight it * More details at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList. Read the release notes section of each of the approved feature Thanks. Rahul From kaboon at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 13:28:42 2009 From: kaboon at gmail.com (kaboon) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:28:42 +0200 Subject: Fedora swag Message-ID: <3f5430b30908310628s35ae3edajed75d5f7178daf8@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but here it goes; Since I'm getting more and more of a Fedora enthusiast I was looking for some cool office accessories today. After doing a quick search I ended up at RedHat's on-line store with a very limited range of accessories. Anyway, I noticed the $2,- decals and I put a few of them in my shopping chart. (about 5). While trying to figure out the rest of the order procedure I came across the shipping costs. It turned out that $65 (or $120 depending on shipping method) would be added to the current order (still 5 stickers) to get them shipped over to The Netherlands. Heck, if the money would all go to the Fedora Project I might have even considered buying them but I wasn't planning on sponsoring UPS too. :) After taking a little bit more time I bumped into an other possibility; a French web-shop which had a whole wardrobe of fedora clothing (and yet again very limited accessories). Besides that, I don't know French and I couldn't discover a possibility to switch to English (I might have not looked good enough though). So still no luck. I also found out that there's a Fedora Shop SIG at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store (referring to this mailinglist). Unfortunately the most recent activity seems to be somewhere around in 2008. Now my actual question; is this SIG still alive and if not, how much interest is there to reincarnate it? I'd be happy to assist where I can. The reason that I'm asking here is because the page doesn't state on contacting a person or other mailing-list than this one. Thank you for your time. -- With kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet, Eelko Berkenpies http://blog.berkenpies.nl/ From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Mon Aug 31 13:42:53 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:42:53 +0200 Subject: Fedora swag In-Reply-To: <3f5430b30908310628s35ae3edajed75d5f7178daf8@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f5430b30908310628s35ae3edajed75d5f7178daf8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780908310642q50fd951n4f4667c2e4707be7@mail.gmail.com> > After taking a little bit more time I bumped into an other > possibility; a French web-shop which had a whole wardrobe of fedora > clothing (and yet again very limited accessories). Besides that, I > don't know French and I couldn't discover a possibility to switch to > English (I might have not looked good enough though). I suppose you're talking about this: http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net/fr/FR/Shop This is the shop that we (the french Fedora NPO) have set up to sell swag and make a little income to finance events, media production, etc... It seems you can't select the english language as, well... the shop is mainly for french people :) However, I'm not sure Spreadshirt would even deliver the products to the Netherlands. I'll try to have more informations about that. > I also found out that there's a Fedora Shop SIG at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store (referring to this > mailinglist). Unfortunately the most recent activity seems to be > somewhere around in 2008. Now my actual question; is this SIG still > alive and if not, how much interest is there to reincarnate it? I'd be > happy to assist where I can. > > The reason that I'm asking here is because the page doesn't state on > contacting a person or other mailing-list than this one. Now, how do we have swag to distribute at events ? The answer is simple: we (Fedora ambassadors) produce them. Either the Fedora Project produces a lot of them and sends some to local Ambassadors so they can distribute them, or the local teams produce them themselves (that's what we do in France). As an individual, I guess your best bet to have some swag would be to attend an event, go to the Fedora booth and chat with the Ambassadors there, I'm sure they'll give you some :) Or, you could also try to ressuscitate the Shop SIG... :] Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From pingou at pingoured.fr Mon Aug 31 14:00:42 2009 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:00:42 +0200 Subject: Fedora swag In-Reply-To: <2d319b780908310642q50fd951n4f4667c2e4707be7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f5430b30908310628s35ae3edajed75d5f7178daf8@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780908310642q50fd951n4f4667c2e4707be7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1251727242.10744.41.camel@pingouLab.pingoured.fr> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 15:42 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > > After taking a little bit more time I bumped into an other > > possibility; a French web-shop which had a whole wardrobe of fedora > > clothing (and yet again very limited accessories). Besides that, I > > don't know French and I couldn't discover a possibility to switch to > > English (I might have not looked good enough though). > > I suppose you're talking about this: > http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net/fr/FR/Shop > > This is the shop that we (the french Fedora NPO) have set up to sell > swag and make a little income to finance events, media production, > etc... > > It seems you can't select the english language as, well... the shop is > mainly for french people :) > > However, I'm not sure Spreadshirt would even deliver the products to > the Netherlands. I'll try to have more informations about that. I actually think Spreadshirt delivers all over Europe. At worst there are (few) ambassadors in the Netherlands among which some (at least one) goes to France some time... ;-) Regards, Pierre From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Aug 31 14:12:35 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:12:35 +0300 Subject: Fedora swag In-Reply-To: <2d319b780908310642q50fd951n4f4667c2e4707be7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f5430b30908310628s35ae3edajed75d5f7178daf8@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780908310642q50fd951n4f4667c2e4707be7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9BDA53.3000008@nicubunu.ro> On 08/31/2009 04:42 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >> After taking a little bit more time I bumped into an other >> possibility; a French web-shop which had a whole wardrobe of fedora >> clothing (and yet again very limited accessories). Besides that, I >> don't know French and I couldn't discover a possibility to switch to >> English (I might have not looked good enough though). > > As an individual, I guess your best bet to have some swag would be to > attend an event, go to the Fedora booth and chat with the Ambassadors > there, I'm sure they'll give you some :) Another interesting option is to get some design you like (for example from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral) and go with it and print at a local shop. That's what I do for my own needs (stickers, posters, business cards - with T-shirts is harder to get good quality). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Aug 31 19:04:38 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:04:38 -0400 Subject: usesthis.com interview Message-ID: <4A9C1EC6.7030404@fedoraproject.org> Hi, I was interviewed by waferbaby (Daniel Bogan) about my hardware/software setup and I go through my usage of Fedora in the interview: http://mairin.duffy.usesthis.com/ Daniel's got some really interesting interviews on usesthis.com, e.g., with Jakob Nielsen and Joe Hewitt (creator of Firebug). Also an interview with Danah Boyd from Microsoft Research who surprisingly uses a Mac... Anyhow since Fedora is mentioned quite extensively I figured I'd point it out. ~m From stickster at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 20:38:33 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:38:33 -0400 Subject: usesthis.com interview In-Reply-To: <4A9C1EC6.7030404@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A9C1EC6.7030404@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090831203833.GY12447@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:04:38PM -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi, > > I was interviewed by waferbaby (Daniel Bogan) about my hardware/software > setup and I go through my usage of Fedora in the interview: > > http://mairin.duffy.usesthis.com/ > > Daniel's got some really interesting interviews on usesthis.com, e.g., > with Jakob Nielsen and Joe Hewitt (creator of Firebug). Also an > interview with Danah Boyd from Microsoft Research who surprisingly uses > a Mac... > > Anyhow since Fedora is mentioned quite extensively I figured I'd point > it out. What a fantastic interview! Nice job calling out all the awesome software you use in Fedora -- and you're right, it is a cool site. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug