From herlo1 at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 00:21:52 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:21:52 -0700 Subject: SCALE 7x: Clint Savage of the Fedora Project on Spinning Your Own Linux LiveCD In-Reply-To: <49A9C820.5050303@fedoraproject.org> References: <49A9C820.5050303@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Clint Savage wrote: >> >> Not wanting to toot my own horn too much, but this is awesome!! >> >> >> http://www.thebitsource.com/2009/02/28/scale-7x-clint-savage-of-fedora-project-on-spinning-your-own-linux-livecd/ >> >> and currently, it's the featured story on their home page. >> > > Do we have videos of the Scale talks? > > Rahul Not yet, but I suspect they'll be out in the next month or two. It takes time to recover and render video. Clint From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 2 12:45:14 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:15:14 +0530 Subject: Intel, Nvidia Kernel Mode-Setting In Fedora 11 Message-ID: <49ABD4DA.3080707@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Essentially this means you will see Plymouth graphical bootup look better in a lot more systems and easily enabled in Nvidia systems as well. KMS brings in a number of other benefits as well. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEwMA "Just three days ago we shared that Nouveau will become the default NVIDIA driver in Fedora 11 to replace the obfuscated xf86-video-nv mess. Now proposed for Fedora 11 is to also integrate the Nouveau kernel mode-setting driver." "Enabled by default on Fedora 11 will be Intel kernel mode-setting (along with the ATI kernel mode-setting that can already be found in Fedora 10). More on this is also available from the Fedora Wiki. ATI kernel mode-setting has been enabled since Fedora 10, but in Leonidas the support will be extended to support KMS on ATI R100/200 hardware. " Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 2 12:52:09 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:22:09 +0530 Subject: Video: Ted Ts'o on Ext4, BtrFS, First Steps with Linux Message-ID: <49ABD679.7040302@fedoraproject.org> Hi Note that Fedora 11 Alpha uses ext4 as the default filesystem and has experimental support for btrfs as well. http://www.osnews.com/story/21057/Video_Ted_Ts_o_on_Ext4_BtrFS_First_Steps_with_Linux "Linux Magazine has put up a video of Ted Tso, one of the primary developers of Ext4 and current CTO of Linux Foundation, on the current state of Ext4, the current plan of Fedora to have it as the default filesystem for Fedora 11, how it compares to Btrfs, and other insights. Ted says that Ext4 is close to production-ready being built on the mature and stable Ext3 codebase and being an evolutionary step that brings in additional performance and scalability. Btrfs is a completely new filesytem developed from scratch with a number of new features like filesystem level snapshots that Ext4 could not accommodate. Ext4 is well on its way to becoming the next standard filesystem for Linux while allowing Btrfs to innovate more and mature over time." Rahul From jaa at redhat.com Mon Mar 2 15:24:03 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:24:03 -0500 Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.03.03 @ 21.00UTC Message-ID: <49ABFA13.8090309@redhat.com> Hello All, This is to remind everyone that we will be having our first meeting at the newly decided meeting time of Tuesday at 21.00UTC. The meeting will be in #fedora-mktg for now until we can secure a slot in #meeting (request was already put in). There is a great amount of stuff to discuss and work on, so let's all look forward to a great meeting! If possible, can people just respond to this and let us know who plans on attending? Thanks, Jack From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 17:28:21 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:28:21 -0500 Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.03.03 @ 21.00UTC In-Reply-To: <49ABFA13.8090309@redhat.com> References: <49ABFA13.8090309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090302172821.GA16869@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:24:03AM -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hello All, > > This is to remind everyone that we will be having our first meeting at > the newly decided meeting time of Tuesday at 21.00UTC. The meeting will > be in #fedora-mktg for now until we can secure a slot in #meeting > (request was already put in). There is a meeting channel matrix available here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel Maybe you should choose a time from among our candidate times that is not already in use and settle on that. When you say you requested a certain slot, I'm not sure with whom -- I didn't know there was really an arbiter other than the community figuring things out openly between themselves. Were you trying to get Spins SIG to move times, or is there some other conflict? > There is a great amount of stuff to discuss and work on, so let's all > look forward to a great meeting! > > If possible, can people just respond to this and let us know who plans on > attending? I'll attend tomorrow at 2100 UTC in the #fedora-mktg channel. -- Paul W. 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By adding these clauses, the signee would agree to litigate the issue by the specified law (New York, Delaware, etc.) and location (presumably most easily accessible for Red Hat/Fedora legal department). I would be happy to whip something together and pass it along. (Disclosure: I am an attorney licensed to practice in Michigan). --Mike On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:38:41PM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: >> On 2009-02-26 at 14:13:36 -0500, William Cattey wrote: >>> I agree with Chuck. >>> >>> Although I was easily able to sign the model release I received at >>> FudCon because it was releasing the image I gave, the Red Hat >>> lawyers >>> seem to want perpetual license to use all aspects of my likeness for >>> marketing purposes, and MIT, my employer will not permit that. >>> >>> MIT does not get involved in the marketing of products, and if my >>> face >>> and title were used in certain contexts, it would conflict with my >>> employer's strictures on MIT marketing. >> >> These are very valid points. Red Hat Legal was able to quickly turn >> around a new version of this document for us, please look at: >> >> http://spot.fedorapeople.org/Model%20and%20Contribution%20Release%20rev1.pdf >> >> It is no longer an "exclusive" agreement, and it is now bounded to >> the >> Fedora Picture Book only. >> >> Please let me know if there are any additional concerns, Red Hat is >> more >> than willing to work with our needs here. > > Thanks for shepherding this along, Spot. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http:// > paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 19:20:50 2009 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:50:50 +0530 Subject: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <20090302170026.A675161A183@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090302170026.A675161A183@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, wrote: > Send Fedora-marketing-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-marketing-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-marketing-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-marketing-list digest..." > > > NOTE: When replying to digest messages, please set the subject to match the > original message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Intel, Nvidia Kernel Mode-Setting In Fedora 11 (Rahul Sundaram) > 2. Video: Ted Ts'o on Ext4, BtrFS, First Steps with Linux > (Rahul Sundaram) > 3. REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.03.03 @ 21.00UTC (Jack Aboutboul) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:15:14 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Intel, Nvidia Kernel Mode-Setting In Fedora 11 > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Message-ID: <49ABD4DA.3080707 at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > > Essentially this means you will see Plymouth graphical bootup look > better in a lot more systems and easily enabled in Nvidia systems as > well. KMS brings in a number of other benefits as well. > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEwMA > > "Just three days ago we shared that Nouveau will become the default > NVIDIA driver in Fedora 11 to replace the obfuscated xf86-video-nv mess. > Now proposed for Fedora 11 is to also integrate the Nouveau kernel > mode-setting driver." > > "Enabled by default on Fedora 11 will be Intel kernel mode-setting > (along with the ATI kernel mode-setting that can already be found in > Fedora 10). More on this is also available from the Fedora Wiki. ATI > kernel mode-setting has been enabled since Fedora 10, but in Leonidas > the support will be extended to support KMS on ATI R100/200 hardware. " > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:22:09 +0530 > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Video: Ted Ts'o on Ext4, BtrFS, First Steps with Linux > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Message-ID: <49ABD679.7040302 at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi > > Note that Fedora 11 Alpha uses ext4 as the default filesystem and has > experimental support for btrfs as well. > > > http://www.osnews.com/story/21057/Video_Ted_Ts_o_on_Ext4_BtrFS_First_Steps_with_Linux > > "Linux Magazine has put up a video of Ted Tso, one of the primary > developers of Ext4 and current CTO of Linux Foundation, on the current > state of Ext4, the current plan of Fedora to have it as the default > filesystem for Fedora 11, how it compares to Btrfs, and other insights. > Ted says that Ext4 is close to production-ready being built on the > mature and stable Ext3 codebase and being an evolutionary step that > brings in additional performance and scalability. Btrfs is a completely > new filesytem developed from scratch with a number of new features like > filesystem level snapshots that Ext4 could not accommodate. Ext4 is well > on its way to becoming the next standard filesystem for Linux while > allowing Btrfs to innovate more and mature over time." > > Rahul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:24:03 -0500 > From: Jack Aboutboul > Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.03.03 @ 21.00UTC > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Message-ID: <49ABFA13.8090309 at redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello All, > > This is to remind everyone that we will be having our first meeting at > the newly decided meeting time of Tuesday at 21.00UTC. The meeting will > be in #fedora-mktg for now until we can secure a slot in #meeting > (request was already put in). > > There is a great amount of stuff to discuss and work on, so let's all > look forward to a great meeting! > > If possible, can people just respond to this and let us know who plans > on attending? > > Thanks, > Jack > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > End of Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 2 > **************************************************** > I would have loved to attend it but its 02:30 am in India so will not be able to attend this meeting. Thanks, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 2 19:28:07 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:58:07 +0530 Subject: Thunderbird 3 Coming To Fedora 11 Message-ID: <49AC3347.6040905@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEwNQ "Fedora 11 is reaching an impressive number of accepted features. Beyond introducing Intel and NVIDIA kernel mode-setting, Nouveau becoming the default NVIDIA driver, and a new volume control interface, there will be a plethora of package updates. Fedora 11 will have available Xfce 4.6, GNOME 2.26, and KDE 4.2 for the desktops. Underneath these updated desktops will be X Server 1.6, EXT4 file-system (or optionally Btrfs), the Linux 2.6.29 kernel, and GCC 4.4. An updated package that will also make its way into Fedora 11 is Thunderbird 3. This updated Mozilla mail client brings a revised user-interface, easier configuration of mail options, a new add-on manager, faster content searching, G-Mail IMAP support, better extensibility, and architectural cleanups. The latest version of Thunderbird 3.0 is Beta 2, but the targeted release date for a stable version is unknown at this time. " Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 2 20:08:04 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:38:04 +0530 Subject: More on Fedora Message-ID: <49AC3CA4.5030102@fedoraproject.org> Hi The article goes on to point out two software projects which aren't in Fedora and the respective upstream websites do not provide the latest packages. We probably just need to step in here and fill the gaps but there are probably some licensing issues to resolve. http://www.gadgetwisdom.com/2009/03/02/more-on-fedora/ --- After our post yesterday on Fedora, we received a comment from Paul W. Frields, who is the Fedora Project Leader and chairman of the Fedora Project Board. He wrote: I think the idea that we?re ?regaining? users implies that we lost them somewhere along the way, which isn?t what our statistics show. Rather, as the total size of the Linux-user pie has become larger, we?ve continued to grow consistently. There will always be distro-hoppers looking for that elusive perfect Linux distribution ? and more often than not, failing in that quest ? but in general the strength of our development model, rapid release cycle, and putting the freshest software in front of users in a stable, easy to manage platform have retained users? hearts for a long time. It?s true that we may not have the marketing push of Ubuntu; it?s a fine distribution and community, but given the choice between marketing features and creating them, we definitely choose the latter. We?re very happy that many of the features we create are adopted by other distributions, because that shows, first, the strength of the free software development model; and second, that our policy of working directly with the upstream, as opposed to creating a crazy quilt of technically questionable patches in our own distribution alone, is the winning strategy for long-term sustainability. And he is right, we were inaccurate with the title. Fedora is improving its share of the overall Linux market, which continues to grow --- Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 2 21:16:25 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:16:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: Spreading the word about FUDCon Berlin Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'd like to take a moment to talk a little bit about our Marketing and Press plans for FUDCon Berlin and LinuxTag, which is taking place in June. Last week, Red Hat issued a press release about the event, but that is just the first in what is going to be a larger marketing campaign. Because we are partnering with LinuxTag this year for FUDCon, they have agreed to allow us to use their press contacts in Germany and other parts of Europe to help spread the word about the event. Henrik Heigl has agreed to take responsibility for helping to craft our plan for bringing as much exposure as we can to FUDCon Berlin and LinuxTag this year, and I will be working with him to roll out further announcements about the daily schedules, speakers, and other highlights of FUDCon Berlin. Because a task like this requires lots of teamwork and collaboration (both on this mailing list and also with other parts of Red Hat, with my serving as a go-between) to be done correctly, I wanted to take a moment to "officially" introduce him to the list, though many of you already know him, and to thank him for taking this important leadership role. Our goal is to have the most agressive pre-FUDCon marketing strategy ever seen, that can set the template for how we advertise all future FUDCons. --Max From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 21:30:36 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:30:36 -0600 Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.03.03 @ 21.00UTC In-Reply-To: <49ABFA13.8090309@redhat.com> References: <49ABFA13.8090309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090302213035.GC2902@gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:24:03AM -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > This is to remind everyone that we will be having our first meeting at > the newly decided meeting time of Tuesday at 21.00UTC. The meeting will > be in #fedora-mktg for now until we can secure a slot in #meeting > (request was already put in). > There are alternate meeting channels too, but #fedora-mktg is fine. As long as we decide on something soon and stick with it. > There is a great amount of stuff to discuss and work on, so let's all > look forward to a great meeting! > woo picture book woo > If possible, can people just respond to this and let us know who plans > on attending? > me! -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since the release forms are finally done I think we can have a ton of great photos from the contributors in that region. I think advising people of this on the wiki page would be great. [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 2 22:12:18 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:12:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: Spreading the word about FUDCon Berlin In-Reply-To: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> References: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ian Weller wrote: > If we can also take this time to start recruiting photographers (with > decent cameras) to take photos for the Fedora Picture Book[1], that > would be awesome. Since the release forms are finally done I think we > can have a ton of great photos from the contributors in that region. I > think advising people of this on the wiki page would be great. Definitely, Ian. This will be a part of what we do at FUDCon and LinuxTag in Berlin. It's the best opportunity we'll have in 2009 in the Europe region, especially with master photographers like Nicu and Francesco Crippa there :) --Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 3 01:02:42 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:32:42 +0530 Subject: Video: Spotlight on Mirror Manager Message-ID: <49AC81B2.5080209@fedoraproject.org> Hi Matt Domsch from Dell and Fedora Board member talks about mirror manager in Fedora http://magazine.redhat.com/2009/02/27/video-spotlight-on-mirror-manager/ Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 3 07:30:49 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:30:49 +0200 Subject: Spreading the word about FUDCon Berlin In-Reply-To: References: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49ACDCA9.5000203@nicubunu.ro> Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ian Weller wrote: > >> If we can also take this time to start recruiting photographers (with >> decent cameras) to take photos for the Fedora Picture Book[1], that >> would be awesome. Since the release forms are finally done I think we >> can have a ton of great photos from the contributors in that region. I >> think advising people of this on the wiki page would be great. > > Definitely, Ian. This will be a part of what we do at FUDCon and > LinuxTag in Berlin. It's the best opportunity we'll have in 2009 in the > Europe region, especially with master photographers like Nicu and > Francesco Crippa there :) My plan is to participate and take as many photos an I can, but I still have to arrange some details. I expect we will also have as photographers Luca Foppiano, Dimitris Glezos, Nils Philippsen and more. We will dwarf the amount of photos from Boston :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 3 07:48:02 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:48:02 +0200 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: References: <20090221042556.GC31788@gmail.com> <49A6E04A.6050001@redhat.com> <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> Michael Naughton wrote: > I'm coming into this a bit late, but I couldn't help but wonder if there > was any discussion with Red Hat legal concerning inserting a choice of > law and choice of forum clause in the Model and Contribution release. > By adding these clauses, the signee would agree to litigate the issue by > the specified law (New York, Delaware, etc.) and location (presumably > most easily accessible for Red Hat/Fedora legal department). I would be > happy to whip something together and pass it along. (Disclosure: I am > an attorney licensed to practice in Michigan). I am a potential photographer living in the Europe, the people posing for me will be most likely from the EU, what do we should care about states in the USA? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From luca at foppiano.org Tue Mar 3 08:58:24 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:58:24 +0100 Subject: Spreading the word about FUDCon Berlin In-Reply-To: <49ACDCA9.5000203@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> <49ACDCA9.5000203@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1236070704.27420.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 09:30 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > My plan is to participate and take as many photos an I can, but I > still > have to arrange some details. > I expect we will also have as photographers Luca Foppiano, Dimitris > Glezos, Nils Philippsen and more. We will dwarf the amount of photos > from Boston :p Of course I'll be there :) Luca -- Today is Boomtime, the 62nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 Boredom in the Kernel. From michnaugh1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 14:26:32 2009 From: michnaugh1 at gmail.com (Michael Naughton) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:26:32 -0500 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090221042556.GC31788@gmail.com> <49A6E04A.6050001@redhat.com> <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> Nicu: Frankly, companies usually use clauses like this to dissuade individuals from suing them. Effectively, by signing the document the company and individual agree to the location of any possible lawsuit and what type of law that is to be applied. In the United States each state has its own law. Some states' law is more favorable for certain positions than others. For example, many corporations use Delaware as their state of incorporation because it is seen as having a body of state law that is more corporation friendly. --Mike Nicu Buculei wrote: > Michael Naughton wrote: >> I'm coming into this a bit late, but I couldn't help but wonder if >> there was any discussion with Red Hat legal concerning inserting a >> choice of law and choice of forum clause in the Model and >> Contribution release. By adding these clauses, the signee would >> agree to litigate the issue by the specified law (New York, Delaware, >> etc.) and location (presumably most easily accessible for Red >> Hat/Fedora legal department). I would be happy to whip something >> together and pass it along. (Disclosure: I am an attorney licensed >> to practice in Michigan). > > I am a potential photographer living in the Europe, the people posing > for me will be most likely from the EU, what do we should care about > states in the USA? > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 3 14:59:50 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:59:50 +0200 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> References: <20090221042556.GC31788@gmail.com> <49A6E04A.6050001@redhat.com> <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> Michael Naughton wrote: > Nicu: > > Frankly, companies usually use clauses like this to dissuade individuals > from suing them. Effectively, by signing the document the company and > individual agree to the location of any possible lawsuit and what type > of law that is to be applied. In the United States each state has its > own law. Some states' law is more favorable for certain positions than > others. For example, many corporations use Delaware as their state of > incorporation because it is seen as having a body of state law that is > more corporation friendly. Mike, I fully understand that, but I am living in the EU and most likely will never get into Delaware, so the chances of me going into Delaware to sue Red Hat are ZERO. And why I would prefer a corporate-friendly law in Delaware instead of a citizen-friendly law from Europe? And I guess I can claim at any time that not being a native English speaker (even more, not having *ever* learned English formally) I didn;t fully understood what I signed. You know, a citizen-friendly European law may be helpful here :p > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Michael Naughton wrote: >>> I'm coming into this a bit late, but I couldn't help but wonder if >>> there was any discussion with Red Hat legal concerning inserting a >>> choice of law and choice of forum clause in the Model and >>> Contribution release. By adding these clauses, the signee would >>> agree to litigate the issue by the specified law (New York, Delaware, >>> etc.) and location (presumably most easily accessible for Red >>> Hat/Fedora legal department). I would be happy to whip something >>> together and pass it along. (Disclosure: I am an attorney licensed >>> to practice in Michigan). >> >> I am a potential photographer living in the Europe, the people posing >> for me will be most likely from the EU, what do we should care about >> states in the USA? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From michnaugh1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 15:18:56 2009 From: michnaugh1 at gmail.com (Michael Naughton) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:18:56 -0500 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090221042556.GC31788@gmail.com> <49A6E04A.6050001@redhat.com> <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49AD4A60.3080806@gmail.com> Hi Nicu: This is a great point. I may be coming at this from a very lawyerly perspective. I hope you will forgive me. Typically, when I am looking at a document for a entity whose position I am supporting I try to think of ways of how that entity might get into legal trouble. In this situation, I looked at the proposed agreement and thought that it might be a problem for Red Hat and Fedora to expose itself to law suits in multiple locations around the world from people contesting the use of their photos. This would be very expensive and time consuming for Red Hat and Fedora as they may have to hire lawyers in Germany, U.K., Romania, United States, etc. for legal claims that come up. My suggestion is to limit the locations that Red Hat and Fedora would have to go to fight such law suits. On the other hand, I see your point. This is a service that people from around the world will be using. Having portions in an agreement that limit photographers to bring legal issues against Red Hat or Fedora only in the United States may make the agreement less appealing for people to agree to. Individuals like you who want to make a positive contribution might be less willing to sign the agreement knowing this. Ultimately, I don't think the clauses are necessary. I think the odds of there being a serious lawsuit about this is very small and I don't think there are going to be multiple claims arising out of a release. The agreement is pretty standard and straightforward. --Mike Nicu Buculei wrote: > Michael Naughton wrote: >> Nicu: >> >> Frankly, companies usually use clauses like this to dissuade >> individuals from suing them. Effectively, by signing the document >> the company and individual agree to the location of any possible >> lawsuit and what type of law that is to be applied. In the United >> States each state has its own law. Some states' law is more >> favorable for certain positions than others. For example, many >> corporations use Delaware as their state of incorporation because it >> is seen as having a body of state law that is more corporation friendly. > > Mike, > > I fully understand that, but I am living in the EU and most likely > will never get into Delaware, so the chances of me going into Delaware > to sue Red Hat are ZERO. And why I would prefer a corporate-friendly > law in Delaware instead of a citizen-friendly law from Europe? > > And I guess I can claim at any time that not being a native English > speaker (even more, not having *ever* learned English formally) I > didn;t fully understood what I signed. You know, a citizen-friendly > European law may be helpful here :p > >> Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Michael Naughton wrote: >>>> I'm coming into this a bit late, but I couldn't help but wonder if >>>> there was any discussion with Red Hat legal concerning inserting a >>>> choice of law and choice of forum clause in the Model and >>>> Contribution release. By adding these clauses, the signee would >>>> agree to litigate the issue by the specified law (New York, >>>> Delaware, etc.) and location (presumably most easily accessible for >>>> Red Hat/Fedora legal department). I would be happy to whip >>>> something together and pass it along. (Disclosure: I am an >>>> attorney licensed to practice in Michigan). >>> >>> I am a potential photographer living in the Europe, the people >>> posing for me will be most likely from the EU, what do we should >>> care about states in the USA? > > From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 3 15:24:55 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:24:55 -0500 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090221042556.GC31788@gmail.com> <49A6E04A.6050001@redhat.com> <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49AD4BC7.5030908@redhat.com> Nicu, Whatever, none of this applies to you, I don't think. Either way, we are going to go ahead and set something up so people can start uploading pictures and just continue from there... Jack Nicu Buculei wrote: > Michael Naughton wrote: >> Nicu: >> >> Frankly, companies usually use clauses like this to dissuade >> individuals from suing them. Effectively, by signing the document >> the company and individual agree to the location of any possible >> lawsuit and what type of law that is to be applied. In the United >> States each state has its own law. Some states' law is more >> favorable for certain positions than others. For example, many >> corporations use Delaware as their state of incorporation because it >> is seen as having a body of state law that is more corporation friendly. > > Mike, > > I fully understand that, but I am living in the EU and most likely > will never get into Delaware, so the chances of me going into Delaware > to sue Red Hat are ZERO. And why I would prefer a corporate-friendly > law in Delaware instead of a citizen-friendly law from Europe? > > And I guess I can claim at any time that not being a native English > speaker (even more, not having *ever* learned English formally) I > didn;t fully understood what I signed. You know, a citizen-friendly > European law may be helpful here :p > >> Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Michael Naughton wrote: >>>> I'm coming into this a bit late, but I couldn't help but wonder if >>>> there was any discussion with Red Hat legal concerning inserting a >>>> choice of law and choice of forum clause in the Model and >>>> Contribution release. By adding these clauses, the signee would >>>> agree to litigate the issue by the specified law (New York, >>>> Delaware, etc.) and location (presumably most easily accessible for >>>> Red Hat/Fedora legal department). I would be happy to whip >>>> something together and pass it along. (Disclosure: I am an >>>> attorney licensed to practice in Michigan). >>> >>> I am a potential photographer living in the Europe, the people >>> posing for me will be most likely from the EU, what do we should >>> care about states in the USA? > > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 3 15:40:51 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:40:51 +0200 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <49AD4BC7.5030908@redhat.com> References: <20090221042556.GC31788@gmail.com> <49A6E04A.6050001@redhat.com> <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> <49AD4BC7.5030908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49AD4F83.1000608@nicubunu.ro> Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Nicu, > > Whatever, none of this applies to you, I don't think. Either way, we are > going to go ahead and set something up so people can start uploading > pictures and just continue from there... Sure, we should start accepting images ASAP (I think we now are waiting for Ian to come with uploading instructions). I was trying just to not get overboard with legalese (we already waited 2 months for the Release Forms). Keep It Simple, Stupid. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 3 17:42:52 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:42:52 -0500 Subject: MEETING TODAY 2009.03.03 @ 21.00UTC, #fedora-mktg Message-ID: <49AD6C1C.7050006@redhat.com> Hey Everyone, We will have our regularly scheduled meeting, the first at our new time, today, Tuesday the 3rd of March at 21.00UTC. This 4pm eastern, 1pm pacific. For today, the meeting will take place in #fedora-mktg until we can secure the slot in the official meeting room. Relevant Links: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Fedora_Picture_Book See you all there, Jack From felix at fetzig.org Tue Mar 3 20:52:42 2009 From: felix at fetzig.org (Felix Kaechele) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:52:42 +0100 Subject: Spreading the word about FUDCon Berlin In-Reply-To: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> References: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AD989A.9030201@fetzig.org> On Mon Mar 02 2009 22:32:49 GMT+0100 (CET) Ian Weller wrote: > If we can also take this time to start recruiting photographers (with > decent cameras) to take photos for the Fedora Picture Book[1], that > would be awesome. If a Canon EOS 450D is decent enough I could make some photos as well. Felix From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 23:13:53 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:13:53 -0600 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <49AD4F83.1000608@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> <49AD4BC7.5030908@redhat.com> <49AD4F83.1000608@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090303231353.GC23602@gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 05:40:51PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Sure, we should start accepting images ASAP (I think we now are waiting > for Ian to come with uploading instructions). I was trying just to not > get overboard with legalese (we already waited 2 months for the Release > Forms). Keep It Simple, Stupid. > I need people like Nicu to look over the current uploading instructions and see if they contain all the necessary details. Please don't upload photos yet, though. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book#Submitting_your_image Michael Beckwith is working on an image to announce that we're accepting images. I'm hoping to flood planet.fp.o as well when we do this, hopefully by Friday. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We will dwarf the amount of photos > from Boston :p > Makes sense, since you guys have actual release forms and this will be planned out more than a week or so in advance ;) -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was trying just to not > > get overboard with legalese (we already waited 2 months for the Release > > Forms). Keep It Simple, Stupid. > > > I need people like Nicu to look over the current uploading instructions > and see if they contain all the necessary details. Please don't upload > photos yet, though. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book#Submitting_your_image > > Michael Beckwith is working on an image to announce that we're accepting > images. I'm hoping to flood planet.fp.o as well when we do this, > hopefully by Friday. > I'm moving things around. New link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind of a call to action. > Can we organize all the mockups here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups Just add [[Category:Picture book mockups]] to the description of the uploaded PNG on the wiki. You can upload the SVG too, but link to it from the PNG's description; don't include the category tag on SVGs. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. What do you think? ~m _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Colby Alexander Hoke -[Producer]- Brand Communications + Design From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 4 07:08:41 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:08:41 +0200 Subject: Spreading the word about FUDCon Berlin In-Reply-To: <49AD989A.9030201@fetzig.org> References: <20090302213248.GD2902@gmail.com> <49AD989A.9030201@fetzig.org> Message-ID: <49AE28F9.1020803@nicubunu.ro> Felix Kaechele wrote: > On Mon Mar 02 2009 22:32:49 GMT+0100 (CET) Ian Weller wrote: > >> If we can also take this time to start recruiting photographers (with >> decent cameras) to take photos for the Fedora Picture Book[1], that >> would be awesome. > > If a Canon EOS 450D is decent enough I could make some photos as well. It is more than "decent enough" (and is the same camera model I have too), looking forward to your photos! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 4 08:02:00 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:02:00 +0200 Subject: Status of the picture book In-Reply-To: <20090303231353.GC23602@gmail.com> References: <20090226190726.GF3091@angus.ind.WPI.EDU> <52E40194-F9D7-49B6-8437-50495BA31256@mit.edu> <49A70BE1.9010707@redhat.com> <20090227154426.GK23861@localhost.localdomain> <49ACE0B2.8010101@nicubunu.ro> <49AD3E18.1000405@gmail.com> <49AD45E6.6020003@nicubunu.ro> <49AD4BC7.5030908@redhat.com> <49AD4F83.1000608@nicubunu.ro> <20090303231353.GC23602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AE3578.5020807@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > > I need people like Nicu to look over the current uploading instructions > and see if they contain all the necessary details. Please don't upload > photos yet, though. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book Let me digress a bit: I am not sure if I understood correctly the process with release forms. Supposedly I want to submit a photo with Martin Sourada from the Brno FUDCon. It is correct that what I have to do is: 1. print the PDF release form and sign it as a photographer 2. mail it to Martin in Prague 3. have Martin sign it as a model 4. have Martin mail it to Max in Amsterdam If the process is complicated as such, then I would prefer to follow it *only* for pictures that are to be used in the book, not for all the proposals. On the same part about release forms, I feel the need of a clarification about "of everybody in that image", supposedly the photo is: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/day2/153-img_4427.jpg.html AFAIK, you need release form only for people who are recognizable in that photo, do I need here signatures from all the people or [how I expect] only from Martin? Clarification is important, I don't want to submit this particular picture: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/day1/038-img_4016.jpg.html but such a rule would effectively bare our something similar. Now back to the instructions: I think we should understand that 1. the photographers may not be very good at speaking English and 2. they may be better with images than with words. So do not ask from them a completely developed story, but only a story *concept*. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From g5_fosslover at yahoo.in Wed Mar 4 08:41:22 2009 From: g5_fosslover at yahoo.in (Gaurav Prabhu) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:11:22 +0530 (IST) Subject: Linux Format - Free to Download only for today Message-ID: <750783.88122.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hello, Here is free download of Linux Format magazine just for today. That's right, FREE. No catches at all. Get your copy soon : http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only Regards, Gaurav Prabhu _______________________ Fedora India Ambassador : coolg5 Website : www.gauravlive.com Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Invite them now. > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- V.P.Balaji.,B.Sc.,GradDipInfSci.,(B.L)., -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From acaleechurn at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 09:49:25 2009 From: acaleechurn at gmail.com (Amit Caleechurn) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:49:25 +0500 Subject: Linux Format - Free to Download only for today In-Reply-To: <750783.88122.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <750783.88122.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello, I think you want want to have a look at the Linux Starter Pack. If we could come up with such a good document for Fedora users (the current one is based on Ubuntu) it would be great to distribute at Fedora events. Kind Regards, Amit 2009/3/4 Gaurav Prabhu > Hello, > Here is free download of Linux Format magazine just for today. That's > right, FREE. No catches at all. > > Get your copy soon : > http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only > > Regards, > Gaurav Prabhu > > _______________________ > > Fedora India Ambassador : coolg5 > Website : www.gauravlive.com > > ------------------------------ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ilyes.gouta at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:15:06 2009 From: ilyes.gouta at gmail.com (Ilyes Gouta) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:15:06 +0100 Subject: Linux Format - Free to Download only for today In-Reply-To: References: <750783.88122.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <234fa2210903040315u22257417i1beb6d80c9a9c511@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, Is there a direct HTTP link? I'm behind my company's proxy and I can't get it via BitTorrent. Regards, Ilyes Gouta. 2009/3/4 Amit Caleechurn > Hello, > I think you want want to have a look at the Linux Starter Pack. > If we could come up with such a good document for Fedora users (the current > one is based on Ubuntu) it would be great to distribute at Fedora events. > > Kind Regards, > Amit > > 2009/3/4 Gaurav Prabhu > >> Hello, >> >> Here is free download of Linux Format magazine just for today. That's >> right, FREE. No catches at all. >> >> Get your copy soon : >> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only >> >> Regards, >> Gaurav Prabhu >> >> _______________________ >> >> Fedora India Ambassador : coolg5 >> Website : www.gauravlive.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. >> -- >> Fedora-marketing-list mailing list >> Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From felix at fetzig.org Wed Mar 4 14:32:09 2009 From: felix at fetzig.org (Felix Kaechele) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:32:09 +0100 Subject: Linux Format - Free to Download only for today In-Reply-To: References: <750783.88122.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49AE90E9.8070706@fetzig.org> Am 04.03.2009 10:49, schrieb Amit Caleechurn: > I think you want want to have a look at the Linux Starter > Pack. If we could come up with such a good document for Fedora users > (the current one is based on Ubuntu) it would be great to distribute at > Fedora events. I'd be interested in carrying such effort on. Felix From hisham.imam at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 14:38:04 2009 From: hisham.imam at gmail.com (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:38:04 +0300 Subject: Linux Format - Free to Download only for today In-Reply-To: <49AE90E9.8070706@fetzig.org> References: <750783.88122.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <49AE90E9.8070706@fetzig.org> Message-ID: <59e007ed0903040638g566f8cefo22b345b75e929161@mail.gmail.com> +1 Felix ^_^ ~hish -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From neugens at limasoftware.net Wed Mar 4 15:31:05 2009 From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:31:05 +0100 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <20090304044400.GA2058@gmail.com> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090304044400.GA2058@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1236180665.3577.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Il giorno mar, 03/03/2009 alle 22.44 -0600, Ian Weller ha scritto: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:41:43PM -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. > > > Can we organize all the mockups here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups > > Just add [[Category:Picture book mockups]] to the description of the > uploaded PNG on the wiki. You can upload the SVG too, but link to it > from the PNG's description; don't include the category tag on SVGs. I personally quite like N and N1, not the last template though. But the whole idea is really cool, definitely! Cheers, Mario From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Mar 4 17:37:13 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:37:13 +0100 Subject: Marketing Meeting 2009-03-03 IRC Log Message-ID: <1236188233.11850.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello all, Yesterday's marketing meeting log is up on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-03 The main topics that we discussed were: * The meeting began with a discussion about the Picture Book. Themayor wanted to have the critical path planned at the end of the meeting to get it done. Ianweller, mizmo and themayor exchenged ideas about it, it will end up on the wiki. * The book will have around 100 pages with a production cost of around 10$. It will be printed by Lightning Source, we only need to give them a PDF. * The rest of the meeting was about choosing the talking points we want to promote for Fedora 11. * All tasks for the current milestone were assigned (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule#Feature_Freeze_-_From_2009-02-05_to_2009-03-03) Steven From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 21:19:40 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:19:40 +0100 Subject: pub id and contact info Message-ID: <50baabb30903041319i2e14e3act3370beacfcb16540@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Is there any Publication ID naming guidelines for any Tech Note or Tech Report for Fedora Project ? JefSpaleta wanted me to write a Position Paper for FEL and I wanted to do it the right way : tetex-IEEEtran Example :http://ctan.osmirror.nl/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/IEEEtran_HOWTO.pdf As you can see on the footer, there is a publication id of the document with respect to the organisation. Can we adopt a publication id protocol for Tech Note, Tech Report, White Paper and Position Paper ? The advantage of such protocol/guidelines will help us avoid copy paste contents in various papers and just cite the paper. Example: F0%{ver}-SIG-NUM --> F011-FEL-01 It seems to me that the Contact Info of the regional ambassadors group (fedora-fr, fedora-india,.....) could also be added to a White Paper. An industry example: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5988-6820EN.pdf Thereby, local humans will be nearer to their respective ambassadors and at the same time we are doing a marketing in a professional way. cheers, chitlesh From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 21:56:08 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:56:08 -0800 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <1236180665.3577.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090304044400.GA2058@gmail.com> <1236180665.3577.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <7a0d56080903041356y5353bbdcu4637256ec5df91f5@mail.gmail.com> I'm "helping" by staying as far away as possible and letting those with artistic skills carry the ball, so to speak. But I did want to put in one vote for N1, which looks great (well, they all look good, but this one especially). Thanks Mairin and everyone else. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Mario Torre wrote: > Il giorno mar, 03/03/2009 alle 22.44 -0600, Ian Weller ha scritto: > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:41:43PM -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a > guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, > features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's > perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their > life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we > could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life > with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. > > > > > Can we organize all the mockups here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups > > > > Just add [[Category:Picture book mockups]] to the description of the > > uploaded PNG on the wiki. You can upload the SVG too, but link to it > > from the PNG's description; don't include the category tag on SVGs. > > I personally quite like N and N1, not the last template though. > > But the whole idea is really cool, definitely! > > Cheers, > Mario > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have "minimun" problems like "top posting messages" and we want to identify ang generate trazability?...mmm non so consecuent issue from my point of view. The next level will be "ISO Fedora Quality Documentation assurance?....we are losing the objetive?...we are becoming more complex when we must become more simple?....for me is "control mechanism"...no need of that...we dont have ambassador kits for worldwide ambassador and we are discussing this?.... Really, theres no need of that...but :) im just disagree... P. From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Mar 5 16:32:10 2009 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:32:10 -0500 Subject: Fedora participation in UKUUG's summer Technical Conference? Message-ID: <49AFFE8A.1060403@redhat.com> Niall Mansfield is organizing the UKUUG's summer Technical Conference in August (6/7/8-Aug-2009, in Birmingham UK). He wrote me to ask if we would be interested in participating, specifically: "There are about 5 or 6 projects who are interested in getting involved, either running a stream in the conf. or running as a mini-conf. Someone suggested that Fedora have never had a significant presence at UKUUG, and that maybe the Fedora folks could tag a UK or Euro Fedora get-together onto Summer." Obviously, I'm a bit too far away for this one, but I know we have ambassadors in the UK and Europe who might be interested in running something like this. Niall's email is nmm at uit.co.uk. If someone is interested in organizing this, please feel free to contact him directly. ~spot From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 5 17:49:12 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:49:12 +0100 Subject: About the 4 Fs Message-ID: Hi, I see the fedoraproject.org logo was updated with 4 Fs. I was just wondering if putting the 4Fs' icons instead of the words could give a more interesting behaviour to the logo (maybe pointing to the 4fs logos meaning). I know there are more important discussion on the table and I don't want to take more time that this proposal need. I wanted to let you know what I feel after I saw the "new" logo. Regards Francesco Ugolini From stickster at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 20:46:35 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:46:35 -0500 Subject: About the 4 Fs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090305204635.GF7418@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 06:49:12PM +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Hi, > > I see the fedoraproject.org logo was updated with 4 Fs. I was just > wondering if putting the 4Fs' icons instead of the words could give a > more interesting behaviour to the logo (maybe pointing to the 4fs > logos meaning). > > I know there are more important discussion on the table and I don't > want to take more time that this proposal need. I wanted to let you > know what I feel after I saw the "new" logo. I think this is a great idea, with only one problem that might make it not work well. The designs of the Four Foundations (not 4-Fs please!) have an emblem and text in each "leaf." At the size appearing in the site headers, those two elements would probably be very difficult to distinguish properly. I do think there are other places we could be promoting the Four Foundations, but the official Fedora logo is still what it always has been -- and wow, is it getting increasingly meaningful! -- and that's the strongest way to brand our web sites overall. Gerold Kassube had -- and Max presented -- a superb idea about how to use the Four Foundations for a rotating set of information supporting each theme on a regular basis. This could be integrated very easily with a content site like the upcoming Zikula or other rotational system. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do this. :) -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please don't upload >> photos yet, though. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book > > Let me digress a bit: I am not sure if I understood correctly the > process with release forms. Supposedly I want to submit a photo with > Martin Sourada from the Brno FUDCon. It is correct that what I have to > do is: > 1. print the PDF release form and sign it as a photographer > 2. mail it to Martin in Prague > 3. have Martin sign it as a model > 4. have Martin mail it to Max in Amsterdam > If the process is complicated as such, then I would prefer to follow it > *only* for pictures that are to be used in the book, not for all the > proposals. > You only need one release form for every photographer-model pair. If you're uploading a lot of images to the wiki, you can just put something down like "Soundra-martin-0001 through 0005.jpg" in the filename box. > On the same part about release forms, I feel the need of a clarification > about "of everybody in that image", supposedly the photo is: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/day2/153-img_4427.jpg.html > AFAIK, you need release form only for people who are recognizable in > that photo, do I need here signatures from all the people or [how I > expect] only from Martin? > Clarification is important, I don't want to submit this particular > picture: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/day1/038-img_4016.jpg.html > but such a rule would effectively bare our something similar. > IMO photos should focus on a few people. Large group photos would need everyone to sign the form, I think. So if you did get a photo of everybody at Brno for the picture book, you'll need everyone to sign a form. I'm relatively sure this is what Spot would say but I'll check if you want me to. > Now back to the instructions: I think we should understand that 1. the > photographers may not be very good at speaking English and 2. they may > be better with images than with words. So do not ask from them a > completely developed story, but only a story *concept*. > Go ahead and fix the instructions as you see fit then. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 6 07:30:40 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:00:40 +0530 Subject: Testing Fedora 11 Alpha on the HP tx2000z Tablet PC.. Yes Virginia WACOM Works Out of The Box Message-ID: <49B0D120.40409@fedoraproject.org> Hi Just a quick review that I am passing along http://www.securemind.org/v4/?p=379 Rahul From gabriel.preda at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 08:14:43 2009 From: gabriel.preda at gmail.com (Gabriel PREDA) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:14:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora marketing needs you! In-Reply-To: <5771a5af0903050334t825e05dude8eb465148da59f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1235826371.5933.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5771a5af0903050334t825e05dude8eb465148da59f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <67467e490903060014o76eb0488tf523f1e718624ca9@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I do not think that smolt statistics have the absolute truth to consider when determining the language usage... I do know that there are a lot of people (including me) that do not use their mother tongue for the OS interface... and choose English. I'm developing in English and after that translate into other languages including my native... I do agree that there needs to be a "pilot" phase for this... but I think in very short time you should extend this using any person that volunteers... Taking in consideration the economic background for this period we should be pushing more and more press releases into as much languages as we can... and also hit "traditional" media: TV, radio, newspapers... probably most of them will be discarded but any rise in articles about Fedora is welcomed... So all in all... when you're including Romanian... please count on me ! Gabriel PREDA -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Fedora Ambassador Certified MySQL Associate Zend Certified Engineer Senior Web-Applications Developer -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- http://e-radical.ro/ On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello dear Fedora Ambassadors, >> >> During the last couple of weeks, the Fedora Marketing [1] group has done >> some serious internal reorganization, most of which you probably don't >> care about very much right now ;) >> >> One important thing to notice is the apparition of something called the >> "News Distribution Network" [2]. This is where we need you, the >> Ambassadors! >> >> The News Distribution Network is a joint effort between the marketing >> group and the ambassador group to effectively push Fedora news to the >> media. As you can see on [2], we are currently searching 2-3 people for >> each of the following languages: >> >> * English, German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Hindi and Italian >> >> Your role will be to help us spread news. If you read the whole page >> [2], it should be pretty clear what we expect from you :) >> >> If you are interested, feel free to contact me so we can discuss your >> candidature during the next IRC marketing meeting next Tuesday. >> >> 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing >> 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network >> >> Have a nice day >> >> Steven Moix - Fedora marketing group >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 6 10:23:39 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:53:39 +0530 Subject: Red Hat's Plymouth Sees New Work Message-ID: <49B0F9AB.1060808@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.osnews.com/story/21090/Red_Hat_s_Plymouth_Sees_New_Work "Plymouth is a freedesktop.org project to create a flicker free graphical bootup system designed and developed by Red Hat and included in Fedora 10. Red Hat has been working on Xorg drivers and within the Linux kernel to improve and enhance the kernel mode support needed for Plymouth. Fedora 10 included support for many ATI cards and this is being developed further in Fedora 11 to cover Intel and Nvidia cards as well. Plymouth supports a flexible and powerful plug-in system which can be used to create Plymouth themes. Fedora includes several of them including a simple progress bar and the solar plugin. Now additional work is being done to improve many things and this will land up in Fedora 11 as well." Rahul From francesco at ephisia.org Fri Mar 6 14:54:50 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:54:50 +0100 Subject: About the 4 Fs In-Reply-To: <20090305220539.GB11323@gmail.com> References: <20090305204635.GF7418@localhost.localdomain> <20090305220539.GB11323@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/3/5 Ian Weller : > On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:46:35PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> Gerold Kassube had -- and Max presented -- a superb idea about how to >> use the Four Foundations for a rotating set of information supporting >> each theme on a regular basis. ?This could be integrated very easily >> with a content site like the upcoming Zikula or other rotational >> system. >> > This. Do this. :) > +1 Regards Francesco Ugolini From jaa at redhat.com Fri Mar 6 22:06:47 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:06:47 -0500 Subject: This Weekend? Message-ID: <49B19E77.6070608@redhat.com> Hey Guys, I was wondering if anyone had anything interesting they planned on doing over the weekend and whether anyone needs help. Let us know, Jack From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Mar 7 01:36:09 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:36:09 +0100 Subject: This Weekend? In-Reply-To: <49B19E77.6070608@redhat.com> References: <49B19E77.6070608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49B1CF89.6040201@kanarip.com> Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I was wondering if anyone had anything interesting they planned on doing > over the weekend and whether anyone needs help. > The Dutch are getting together and see how they can improve the Fedora community in the Netherlands March 7th. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From pingou at pingoured.fr Sat Mar 7 09:01:30 2009 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:01:30 +0100 Subject: This Weekend? In-Reply-To: <49B1CF89.6040201@kanarip.com> References: <49B19E77.6070608@redhat.com> <49B1CF89.6040201@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1236416490.3437.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 02:36 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > > > I was wondering if anyone had anything interesting they planned on doing > > over the weekend and whether anyone needs help. > > > > The Dutch are getting together and see how they can improve the Fedora > community in the Netherlands March 7th. Where / When ? Regards, Pierre From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 8 06:19:51 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:49:51 +0530 Subject: Fedora 11 preview Message-ID: <49B36387.9080805@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://linuxsysconfig.com/2009/03/fedora-11-preview/ "Fedora 11 Alpha is fast and incredibly stable... There are still more than 2 months before the final release is out and plenty of features to be 100% completed (e.g. 20SecondStartup). I?m sure Fedora 11 will be an amazing release, making user experience even more pleasant." Rahul From linux at blogmethat.net Wed Mar 11 10:35:36 2009 From: linux at blogmethat.net (Andrew Jamison) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:35:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora 11 preview In-Reply-To: <49B36387.9080805@fedoraproject.org> References: <49B36387.9080805@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49B793F8.9020303@blogmethat.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://linuxsysconfig.com/2009/03/fedora-11-preview/ > > "Fedora 11 Alpha is fast and incredibly stable... There are still more > than 2 months before the final release is out and plenty of features to > be 100% completed (e.g. 20SecondStartup). I?m sure Fedora 11 will be an > amazing release, making user experience even more pleasant." > > Rahul > Sounds great! THough i can never get an alpha release to boot on my system -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAkm3k/cACgkQh7SjI2F18kO7nwQAh0VNVPeXMRwsVP4h+tYXBblU l9a3NpI0SS7E/a493p0gP7yvaBwXLaqgfnl1/6grIbzfU8juPUX3lXvrQ2Z5Au1k WsH6UNGMAcWVNbm2XlH9XajlKwMvwSk0uJ6uyT5Cmy/no9uvle+m0lpUb7CY1yPj AgXs37DBiklBgEERDJo= =2zMg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 8 14:32:06 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:02:06 +0530 Subject: Fedora revises trademark guidelines Message-ID: <49B3D6E6.5030604@fedoraproject.org> Hi Blog post from Paul W Frields, Fedora Project Leader http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1507 Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 8 20:01:15 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:31:15 +0530 Subject: GNUnify 2009 Message-ID: <49B4240B.9060607@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://opensourcebuzz.technetra.com/2009/03/08/gnunify-2009-community-support-matters/ "Another project that I was happy to see participate this year was Fedora India. The Fedora Activity Days (FAD) at GNUnify were a high energy effort that pulled together India?s Fedora team. I thank my friends at Red Hat, especially Sankarshan, for making this happen. FAD mentored and inspired developers and students interested in learning and participating more in the Fedora project." Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 9 09:38:24 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:38:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: F11 schedule and Template Message-ID: Hi list, I took a few minutes today to clarify some of the timeframes and categories that we break our tasks down into for both the F11 schedule and also the template. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule_template I hope it makes sense. Comments, etc. welcome. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 9 10:25:42 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:25:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: f11 in depth feature focus Message-ID: My deliverable for this week: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features Next step is to assign ownership and then help people do a great job with their feature. --Max From jaa at redhat.com Mon Mar 9 21:19:21 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (jaa at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: REMINDER Meeting Tomorrow @ 21.00 UTC DST Changes!! Message-ID: Hello All, We will have our regularly scheduled meeting meeting tomorrow at our fixed time of 21.00 UTC. Please bear in mind due to US DST this is now 5pm eastern and 2 pacific. This shouldn't create too much of a conflict for but again I will ask people to let us know if they plan ok attending, so that we can have a preliminary head count. Thanks, Jack From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 21:33:42 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:33:42 -0500 Subject: REMINDER Meeting Tomorrow @ 21.00 UTC DST Changes!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090309213342.GA13932@gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 05:19:21PM -0400, jaa at redhat.com wrote: > We will have our regularly scheduled meeting meeting tomorrow at our > fixed time of 21.00 UTC. Please bear in mind due to US DST this is now > 5pm eastern and 2 pacific. This shouldn't create too much of a conflict > for but again I will ask people to let us know if they plan ok attending, > so that we can have a preliminary head count. > \o/ -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This shouldn't create too much of a conflict > > for but again I will ask people to let us know if they plan ok attending, > > so that we can have a preliminary head count. > > > \o/ > > -- > Ian Weller http://ianweller.org > GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 > "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." > ~ Douglas Adams > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 10 12:26:58 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:26:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: REMINDER Meeting Tomorrow @ 21.00 UTC DST Changes!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, jaa at redhat.com wrote: > We will have our regularly scheduled meeting meeting tomorrow at our > fixed time of 21.00 UTC. Please bear in mind due to US DST this is now > 5pm eastern and 2 pacific. This shouldn't create too much of a > conflict for but again I will ask people to let us know if they plan > ok attending, so that we can have a preliminary head count. I'll be there. --Max From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 12:42:03 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:42:03 -0400 Subject: REMINDER Meeting Tomorrow @ 21.00 UTC DST Changes!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090310124203.GG4116@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:26:58PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, jaa at redhat.com wrote: > >> We will have our regularly scheduled meeting meeting tomorrow at our >> fixed time of 21.00 UTC. Please bear in mind due to US DST this is now >> 5pm eastern and 2 pacific. 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Where: irc.freenode.net, #fedora-mktg What: Discuss action items on the schedule, assign upcoming tasks, work on the picture book, etc. See you then, Jack From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 10 16:20:37 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:50:37 +0530 Subject: Getting started with the yum package manager Message-ID: <49B69355.1060006@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=449 "Vincent Danen introduces you to the yum package manager, including basic configuration and some common commands." Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 10 16:20:53 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:50:53 +0530 Subject: Getting started with the yum package manager Message-ID: <49B69365.4070307@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=449 "Vincent Danen introduces you to the yum package manager, including basic configuration and some common commands." Rahul From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Mar 10 09:33:39 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:33:39 +0100 Subject: News distribution network Message-ID: <1236677619.11732.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, note: this mail is CC-ed to the marketing mailinglist. First of all I thank you for volunteering to help spread Fedora news. Now that we have a complete staff [1] we can start to work :) We are currently in a pre-beta phase, which means that there is not much going on on the news front. The first news you'll have to spread will probably be the beta release, I will contact you again around 2009.03.25 for that. Meanwhile I'd like you to go to the list of publications page [2] and update it with websites and contacts in your language..this will ensure that we have current and updated information we can use quickly. 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications Thanks Steven From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 16:58:02 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:58:02 -0600 Subject: REMINDER Meeting Tomorrow @ 21.00 UTC DST Changes!! In-Reply-To: <20090310124203.GG4116@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090310124203.GG4116@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2009/3/10 Paul W. Frields : > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:26:58PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, jaa at redhat.com wrote: >> >>> We will have our regularly scheduled meeting meeting tomorrow at our >>> fixed time of 21.00 UTC. Please bear in mind due to US DST this is now >>> 5pm eastern and 2 pacific. This shouldn't create too much of a conflict >>> for but again I will ask people to let us know if they plan ok >>> attending, so that we can have a preliminary head count. >> >> I'll be there. > > As will I. /me should be there too... From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 09:02:14 2009 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:32:14 +0530 Subject: Representing Fedora in Open Source India Message-ID: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Everyone I would be representing Fedora in the Open Source India Conference and Expo which would be held from March 12th to March 14th at Chennai . 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That's really nice, thank you. :) cc'ing fedora-india. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Mar 11 09:29:34 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:29:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: Last night's meeting log Message-ID: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-10 From balajig.foss at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 09:45:26 2009 From: balajig.foss at gmail.com (Balaji G) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:15:26 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Representing Fedora in Open Source India In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Everyone Information on Open Source India http://www.osidays.com/index.php Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > > I would be representing Fedora in the Open Source India Conference and > Expo > > which would be held from March 12th to March 14th at Chennai . I would be > > most likely be giving a talk about Fedora on March 14th. This is in > > collaboration with the ILUGC (India Linux Users Group Chennai). > > > > I would post the event report once its done. > > That's really nice, thank you. :) > cc'ing fedora-india. > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g5_fosslover at yahoo.in Wed Mar 11 11:16:48 2009 From: g5_fosslover at yahoo.in (Gaurav Prabhu) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:46:48 +0530 (IST) Subject: Representing Fedora in Open Source India Message-ID: <445687.41325.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi, Nice to hear that. Make us proud. Good Luck. Regards, Gaurav Prabhu --- On Wed, 11/3/09, "G" wrote: From: "G" Subject: Representing Fedora in Open Source India To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Date: Wednesday, 11 March, 2009, 9:02 AM Hi Everyone I would be representing Fedora in the Open Source India Conference and Expo which would be held from March 12th to March 14th at Chennai . I would be most likely be giving a talk about Fedora on March 14th. This is in collaboration with the ILUGC (India Linux Users Group Chennai). I would post the event report once its done. Thanks, Cheers, Balaji -----Inline Attachment Follows----- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Mar 11 12:11:26 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:11:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: in-depth look at F11 features Message-ID: Hi list, Please take a look at this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features The purpose of this page is to take an in-depth look at particular features in the Fedora 11 release. The page offers several suggestions of how that might be done. The F11 marketing schedule has us working on these between now and late-April, in preparation for the F11 Preview Release. We're looking for people to take ownership of particular features on the list, and drive it to completion, working with the Marketing team, but having a single owner accountable for the end result. Please take a look, sign up if you are interested, and start coming to the weekly Marketing meetings where we will discuss. Thanks, Max From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 16:38:05 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:08:05 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Representing Fedora in Open Source India In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Information on Open Source India http://www.osidays.com/index.php Hi, Thanks for standing up to speak in the event. It would be nice to know what you are talking about, I could not find anything on that site. :) And also, please update the event page[1], so that it is easily traceable. Thanks. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. From balajig.foss at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 17:15:03 2009 From: balajig.foss at gmail.com (Balaji G) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:45:03 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Representing Fedora in Open Source India In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Susmit I had forgotten to mention the important point of what i would be talking about is this. The audience is gonna be public and they would like to know more the project as such so i plan to talk about whats fedora and whats so special about it and how they could contribute to fedora and the benefits from it and would give them my email ID so that they could get in touch with me . i am not sure whether a presentation kind of thing is allowed as i would represent Fedora in the ILUGC booth in OSI. i guess my topics should suffice taking into account the audience the programme would attract Let me know your thoughts and if you feel some topics could be covered do let me know. Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > > Information on Open Source India http://www.osidays.com/index.php > > Hi, > > Thanks for standing up to speak in the event. > > It would be nice to know what you are talking about, I could not find > anything on that site. > :) > > And also, please update the event page[1], so that it is easily traceable. > Thanks. > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 16:49:28 2009 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:19:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [fedora-india] Re: Representing Fedora in Open Source India In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0903110949j79c3bc7bi17c32111f914cf3b@mail.gmail.com> Hi Susmit I got an email from Indian Linux Users Group Chennai about the talks and morever i saw the name Fedora in OSIDays banner too. I contribute to fedora so i thought it would be a real good opportunity to talk about this. Please find the mail for reference. This mail is not yet archived otherwise i would have sent you the link. Thanks, Cheers, Balaji *********************************************************************************************************************************** fromBharathi Subramanian reply-toILUG-C < ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in> toIndian Linux Users Group - Chennai dateWed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:40 AMsubject[Ilugc] OSI Days Eventmailing list ilugc.ae.iitm.ac.in Filter messages from this mailing listmailed-by ae.iitm.ac.in hide details 10:40 AM (11 hours ago) Reply Hi All, ILUGC is getting a booth in OSI Days Event. This is good opportunity spread FOSS awareness to general public and students. Event is starting from Thu 12th to Sat 14th March. I am looking for volunteers to handle the ILUGC booth for the 3 days in half a day basis - 6 sessions: D1S1 (Day1-Session1), D1S2, D2S1, D2S2, D3S1, D3S2. If you are interested, Plz reply with Session #. Present Volunteers: Muthu - D1, D2 Sudharshan - D2, D3 Yogesh - D1S1, D2S1, D3S1 OSI Days organizers are also looking for students volunteers to help the visitor. Interested students can contact: atanu.datta at gmail On Sat 14th March (Day 3): ========================== OSI Days organizers likes to have a talk about our ILUGC and a discussion about the our activities. OSI Days organizers likes to have a discussion (Not a flame war) about Linux based Distros (Deb, Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, Guntoo, ...). If you are distro fan and willing speak for your distro, Plz send a mail to me. Plz check the OSI Days schedule for the exact timing of this 45mins sessions and join in the discussion. Bye :) -- Bharathi S *********************************************************************************************************************************************** On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > > Information on Open Source India http://www.osidays.com/index.php > > Hi, > > Thanks for standing up to speak in the event. > > It would be nice to know what you are talking about, I could not find > anything on that site. > :) > > And also, please update the event page[1], so that it is easily traceable. > Thanks. > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Unless I get a good reason for a -1, I'll go ahead and add the "now accepting submissions" banner to the fp.o rotation (woo we get to compete with F11 beta) and we'll flood the Planet with blog posts and get rolling. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Mar 11 20:31:41 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:31:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Picture book] time to open submissions? In-Reply-To: <20090311202641.GA3213@gmail.com> References: <20090311202641.GA3213@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Ian Weller wrote: > I'd like to know by tomorrow about this time whether or not we should > open it up. Unless I get a good reason for a -1, I'll go ahead and add > the "now accepting submissions" banner to the fp.o rotation (woo we > get to compete with F11 beta) and we'll flood the Planet with blog > posts and get rolling. Ship it. From jaa at redhat.com Wed Mar 11 21:46:49 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:46:49 -0400 Subject: [Picture book] time to open submissions? In-Reply-To: <20090311202641.GA3213@gmail.com> References: <20090311202641.GA3213@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B83149.1060808@redhat.com> Looks good to me. I would say lets get the ball rolling. Let us know when to spam planet... Jack Ian Weller wrote: > I think we've got a pretty good procedure down. It's available at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book > Max helped me out yesterday by making a simpler procedure (i.e., we look > at a flickr photo set or something) and I cleared up a few things. > > I'd like to know by tomorrow about this time whether or not we should > open it up. Unless I get a good reason for a -1, I'll go ahead and add > the "now accepting submissions" banner to the fp.o rotation (woo we get > to compete with F11 beta) and we'll flood the Planet with blog posts and > get rolling. > > From empoweringlinux at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 16:57:44 2009 From: empoweringlinux at gmail.com (Sri Ram) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:27:44 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Representing Fedora in Open Source India In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d2e2de00903120957w4b7543f9re5ec8d29ad1ad778@mail.gmail.com> Hi Balaji, Its nice to hear about a talk on Fedora in OSI days. I am also member of ILUGC and i will be there in ILUGC booth. Regards Sriram B -- 2009/3/11 Balaji G > Hi Susmit > > I had forgotten to mention the important point of what i would be talking > about is this. The audience is gonna be public and they would like to know > more the project as such so i plan to talk about whats fedora and whats so > special about it and how they could contribute to fedora and the benefits > from it and would give them my email ID so that they could get in touch with > me . > > i am not sure whether a presentation kind of thing is allowed as i would > represent Fedora in the ILUGC booth in OSI. i guess my topics should suffice > taking into account the audience the programme would attract > > Let me know your thoughts and if you feel some topics could be covered do > let me know. > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Balaji > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:08 PM, susmit shannigrahi < > thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Information on Open Source India http://www.osidays.com/index.php >> >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for standing up to speak in the event. >> >> It would be nice to know what you are talking about, I could not find >> anything on that site. >> :) >> >> And also, please update the event page[1], so that it is easily traceable. >> Thanks. >> >> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Susmit. >> >> ============================================= >> ssh >> 0x86DD170A >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit >> ============================================= >> Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-india mailing list >> Fedora-india at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india >> > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Regards Sriram B -- Fedora Ambassador - India empoweringlinux at fedoraproject.org Key fingerprint : B3FF F8AE 4576 1CB2 51E0 1118 5B70 C4EB A575 A19A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 12 18:27:13 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:57:13 +0530 Subject: A Clutter Backend for the Wayland Display Server Message-ID: <49B95401.1050808@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://osnews.com/story/21122/A_Clutter_Backend_for_the_Wayland_Display_Server "Kristian Hogsberg, Red Hat Xorg developer started a new project for creating a display manager called Wayland a while back. Now, a Clutter backend has been developed for it. Last month, Wayland got DRI2 support which itself was initiated by the same developer. Direct Rendering Infrastructure improvements are among one of the key Fedora 11 features." Rahul From sri.kmb at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 18:30:34 2009 From: sri.kmb at gmail.com (sri ram) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:00:34 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Representing Fedora in Open Source India In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0903110202w5dce9c7dg67d129382e29901e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Balaji, If you have fedora stickers, please take it to the OSI conference for distribution. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 13 21:30:44 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:00:44 +0530 Subject: Fedora 10: Living on the edge Message-ID: <49BAD084.3010301@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2008/12/fedora-10-living-on-edge.html "Some people ask me from time to time what will Linux be after 6 months or a year, what changes are planned, which features will be implemented. The answer is actually very simple: Try Fedora & see first-hand! What you see in Fedora now will be used by all distributions' next releases. Since the creation of the Fedora Project, when the distro was named "Fedora Core" the goal was clear:push innovation to the limit, try new technologies, live on the edge!! At first many considered Fedora a test tube for Red Hat and maybe it was. But now it is for all! What other distros consider risky and "not mature" Fedora delivers it and with style I might add. Because Fedora always was rightfully proud about its artwork and never gave as an unstable OS." Rahul From jaa at redhat.com Fri Mar 13 21:51:38 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:51:38 -0400 Subject: This Weekend Message-ID: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> Hey All, So on the heels of everything that went on this week, there are a couple of things that could use some love over the weekend. First and foremost, at the meeting, the In Depth Features coverage idea was announced and there was a page up here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features . If people can please pick up the remaining features by Monday that would be a great help and then we can discuss them on Tuesday's upcoming meeting. Also, if anyone has remaining tasks relating to the News Distribution Network or anything on the schedule page, we're coming up on beta quickly so now is the time to get cracking, let the list know if you need help. Finally, Ian, can you let us know if we can open up the submissions for the picture book. I guess school dragged you away from everything, but if we are cool I would like to start spamming planet. Btw, the image submission stuff is here for anyyone who doesn't know: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book Thanks, Jack From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 13 22:04:53 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:34:53 +0530 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey All, > > So on the heels of everything that went on this week, there are a couple > of things that could use some love over the weekend. > > First and foremost, at the meeting, the In Depth Features coverage idea > was announced and there was a page up here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features . If people can > please pick up the remaining features by Monday that would be a great > help and then we can discuss them on Tuesday's upcoming meeting. I picked Ext4 since I have spend quite a bit of time learning more about it but I am curious as to why these particular features are being picked among the many many new features planned for Fedora 11. I think, we need to make sure we are picking the right features to focus on, first. Rahul From jaa at redhat.com Fri Mar 13 22:01:28 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:01:28 -0400 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49BAD7B8.50408@redhat.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> So on the heels of everything that went on this week, there are a couple >> of things that could use some love over the weekend. >> >> First and foremost, at the meeting, the In Depth Features coverage idea >> was announced and there was a page up here: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features . If people can >> please pick up the remaining features by Monday that would be a great >> help and then we can discuss them on Tuesday's upcoming meeting. >> > > I picked Ext4 since I have spend quite a bit of time learning more about > it but I am curious as to why these particular features are being picked > among the many many new features planned for Fedora 11. I think, we need > to make sure we are picking the right features to focus on, first. > The list was decided by Max and Paul themselves... Jack From stickster at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 22:21:13 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:21:13 -0400 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: <49BAD7B8.50408@redhat.com> References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> <49BAD7B8.50408@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090313222113.GD10671@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 06:01:28PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> So on the heels of everything that went on this week, there are a couple >>> of things that could use some love over the weekend. >>> >>> First and foremost, at the meeting, the In Depth Features coverage idea >>> was announced and there was a page up here: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features . If people can >>> please pick up the remaining features by Monday that would be a great >>> help and then we can discuss them on Tuesday's upcoming meeting. >>> >> >> I picked Ext4 since I have spend quite a bit of time learning more about >> it but I am curious as to why these particular features are being picked >> among the many many new features planned for Fedora 11. I think, we need >> to make sure we are picking the right features to focus on, first. >> > The list was decided by Max and Paul themselves... In fact, we worked on this in the last Marketing meeting, and the one previous, IIRC. We tried to find a round representation of those features that: * provided compelling stories of interest to the lay press that tends to cover Fedora, showing off new features in which we had a significant hand developing * indicated the continuity of feature planning, allowing us to show that Fedora is engineered for the long-haul, not patched together with quick fixes * indicate the future across the platform, including end-user functionality (PK, PA volume), business relevance (virt), and collaboration strategy (Moksha). -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Then I put up a first-pass of the in-depth features page for everyone to take a look at on the Marketing list. See Paul's previous reply for more details. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Mar 14 11:42:34 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:42:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Max Spevack wrote: >> about it but I am curious as to why these particular features are >> being picked among the many many new features planned for Fedora 11. >> I think, we need to make sure we are picking the right features to >> focus on, first. > > We discussed this stuff publicly in both of the last two Marketing > Meetings on IRC, so if you read over the logs, you will have seen some > conversation about them there. > > Following up on those IRC conversations, Paul and I chatted about it a > bit over the phone privately. > > Then I put up a first-pass of the in-depth features page for everyone > to take a look at on the Marketing list. > > See Paul's previous reply for more details. Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, then something fell through the cracks.) b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? --Max From balajig.foss at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 12:00:21 2009 From: balajig.foss at gmail.com (Balaji G) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:30:21 +0530 Subject: Event Report on Fedora Talk in OSI Days Chennai Message-ID: Hi Everyone I am extremely thrilled and pleased to announce that my talk in OSI Days was a real good success. The talk was quite short and I started off with A Survey on how many in the audience have heard about Fedora and there was quite a good number and then I started off with the following 1. What is Fedora 2. What's the Speciality of the Fedora Project 3. What role does Redhat Play in contributing to fedora. 4. What's the role I play in Fedora 5. What's the advantage in Contributing to Fedora and i asked interested people to get my email ID offline to know more on how to contribute and I assured them that i could help them to get into World Of Open Source Software through Fedora. 6. Question & answers Then people when i got off the stage asked for my email IDs and have asked me to give talks in LUG and lot of people had questions like "i want to do some programming but i am not sure how do i do it in Ubuntu " these sort of questions came up and then i took that opportunity to tell them that i would help you do that by asking them to install fedora and assured them that they could copy of DVD from me. Lot of students wanted to do projects but they didn't know how to get into Fedora so i answered those questions and have asked them to contact me through email and then i would bring them onto the IRC channels. I have also asked them to log in to #fedora-classroom on the April First Weekend where i would be taking IRC sessions on kernel topics and Virtualization. I strongly feel that this would bring in more users and contributors and I would be giving more talks too in the future. It was a pretty exciting day and i would be sharing some photos soon . Thanks, Cheers, Balaji -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From balajig.foss at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 12:09:08 2009 From: balajig.foss at gmail.com (Balaji G) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:39:08 +0530 Subject: Event Report on Fedora Talk in OSI Days Chennai In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Everyone Forgot to mention that i did meet Sriram whos is a fedora ambassaor and was also representing Fedora and was helping out the ILUGC booth. Thanks for your help ! Cheers, Balaji On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Balaji G wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I am extremely thrilled and pleased to announce that my talk in OSI Days > was a real good success. The talk was quite short and I started off with > A Survey on how many in the audience have heard about Fedora and there was > quite a good number and then I started off with the following > > 1. What is Fedora > 2. What's the Speciality of the Fedora Project > 3. What role does Redhat Play in contributing to fedora. > 4. What's the role I play in Fedora > 5. What's the advantage in Contributing to Fedora and i asked > interested people to get my email ID offline to know more on how to > contribute > and I assured them that i could help them to get into World Of > Open Source Software through Fedora. > 6. Question & answers > > Then people when i got off the stage asked for my email IDs and have asked > me to give talks in LUG and lot of people had questions like > > "i want to do some programming but i am not sure how do i do it in > Ubuntu " these sort of questions came up and then i took that opportunity to > tell them that i would help you do that by asking them to install fedora and > assured them that they could copy of DVD from me. Lot of students wanted to > do projects but they didn't know how to get into Fedora so i answered those > questions and have asked them to contact me through email and then i would > bring them onto the IRC channels. I have also asked them to log in to > #fedora-classroom on the April First Weekend where i would be taking IRC > sessions on kernel topics and Virtualization. > > I strongly feel that this would bring in more users and contributors and I > would be giving more talks too in the future. > > It was a pretty exciting day and i would be sharing some photos soon . > > > Thanks, > Cheers, > Balaji -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 14 13:01:22 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:31:22 +0530 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: > > a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the > record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the > marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, > then something fell through the cracks.) Not your fault. I just haven't been attending the marketing meetings or reading through the logs much. > > b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? Not sure which ones to highlight more but I can go with the following broader themes and categorize the features including but not limited to the key things in the feature list. ------------ * Desktop - Presto (delta rpms), Ext4, 20 second bootup, Guest user account by default in GNOME (via xguest), KMS improvements (Intel by default which means among other things pretty graphics via plymouth, Nvidia - easy on, AMD already supported in Fedora 10 but improved in Fedora 11) Improvements in system-config-printer at http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/03/screenshots-system-config-printer-11/ SELinux troubleshooter has been partially rewritten in C and the separate boot service has been dropped resulting in much improved performance http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/26053.html Automatic fonts Volume Control, Nouveau (instead of nv 2d driver. 3d support is disable since it is not mature enough) IBus instead of SCIM input method by default, ABRT (automatic desktop crash handler), DeviceKit DRI2 (GL + compiz essentially), rpm 4.7 ((much improved performance and memory footprint). ), Firefox 3.1, Thunderbird 3.0, gnome 2.26, kde 4.2, xfce 4.6, x server 1.6. * Developers - Windows cross compiler (Mingw + lots of cross compiled libraries which is unique), Eclipse profiling tools, debuginfofs, archer (gdb devel branch) . Python 2.6, GCC 4.4, tigervnc * Security - Svirt, stronger hashes, dns security extensions, cups policykit integration, dbus policy changes, system services security daemon, fingerprint improvements, pam gdm changes. * Enterprise - active directory interoperability via openchange, control groups, power management improvements, minimal anaconda installation, minimal text installer. Anaconda storage rewrite. Ext4 is important for enterprise too. GFS2, Much of developer and security stuff is of interest here as well. Supporter arch changes and esp kernel changes http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/02/09/fedora-kernel-packaging/ * Virtualization - Improve console (screenshots at http://blog.wikichoon.com/2009/02/virt-manager-in-fedora-11-new-vm-wizard.html) , vnc auth, KVM PCI device assignment, svirt ------------ Now If I had to pick a few, I would highlight these in no particular order. They show leadership, uniqueness and ability to drive fundamental changes throughout many upstream projects and distribution level improvements as well. Highlights: ---- Ext4, presto, guest user account, 20 sec startup, volume control, new virt-manager with improved console, system-config-printer changes, openchange, control groups, windows cross compiler, desktop crash handler, KMS improvements, Nouveau by default, openchange, svirt, new text mode installer, rpm 4.7 ---- Hope that helps. Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Mar 14 13:33:50 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:33:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Now If I had to pick a few, I would highlight these in no particular > order. They show leadership, uniqueness and ability to drive > fundamental changes throughout many upstream projects and distribution > level improvements as well. All of these get highlighted. Some in the talking points, some in the release summary, some in the in-depth profiles that this thread was discussing earlier, some in blog posts, and some in speeches (I'll be talking about 20 second boot and presto tomorrow at Chemnitzer Linux Tage), and some in Paul's interviews with media. Part of what I see as one of Fedora Marketing's goals this release cycles is to try spreading our feature discussions around different delivery mechanisms, and see how it works. There are a lot of ways to spread our message. If we get through this first set of in-depth features and want to add more, we certainly will. --Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 14 13:45:02 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:15:02 +0530 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49BBB4DE.5010906@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > > Part of what I see as one of Fedora Marketing's goals this release > cycles is to try spreading our feature discussions around different > delivery mechanisms, and see how it works. There are a lot of ways to > spread our message. If we get through this first set of in-depth > features and want to add more, we certainly will. Agreed. It would be useful for developers or people who understand the features in depth to blog about it more, one by one. Red Hat Marketing could help here a lot. Rahul From balajig.foss at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 14:39:39 2009 From: balajig.foss at gmail.com (Balaji G) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:09:39 +0530 Subject: [fedora-india] Re: Event Report on Fedora Talk in OSI Days Chennai In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Magesh > balaji really did a great job at the OSI TechDays today... > nice that he told about contributing to the fedora community and so on.... > that was really nice Hey Thanks a lot and sorry we couldn't meet up today :( Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, magesh wrote: > >>> I am extremely thrilled and pleased to announce that my talk in OSI Days >>> was a real good success. The talk was quite short and I started off with >>> A Survey on how many in the audience have heard about Fedora and there >>> was quite a good number and then I started off with the following >>> >>> 1. What is Fedora >>> 2. What's the Speciality of the Fedora Project >>> 3. What role does Redhat Play in contributing to fedora. >>> 4. What's the role I play in Fedora >>> 5. What's the advantage in Contributing to Fedora and i asked >>> interested people to get my email ID offline to know more on how to >>> contribute >>> and I assured them that i could help them to get into World >>> Of Open Source Software through Fedora. >>> 6. Question & answers >>> >> > > balaji really did a great job at the OSI TechDays today... > nice that he told about contributing to the fedora community and so on.... > that was really nice > > > magesh > Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" > > http://magesh.geexhq.com/ > http://twitter.com/mageshcse > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:32:42 -0400 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090314213242.GE19452@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 06:31:22PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Max Spevack wrote: > > > Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: > > > > a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the > > record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the > > marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, > > then something fell through the cracks.) > > Not your fault. I just haven't been attending the marketing meetings or > reading through the logs much. > > > > b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? > > Not sure which ones to highlight more but I can go with the following > broader themes and categorize the features including but not limited to > the key things in the feature list. [...snip...] This is an exhaustive list, which kind of defeats the point of "highlights." However, you are completely correct that these are all very worthy features. We had to choose a small list on which to concentrate, which is the only rational strategy since we're covering them with limited resources. Part of the reason we choose highlights and build stories around them, rather than trying to do this with every single feature, is that Red Hat Marketing lends substantial support to our campaign around each release. They also have finite resources with which to do this work and have asked me repeatedly for the past few releases to center in on a handful of features that have immediate broad appeal or compelling stories we can build around them. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 14 22:10:14 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:40:14 +0530 Subject: This Weekend In-Reply-To: <20090314213242.GE19452@localhost.localdomain> References: <49BAD56A.60609@redhat.com> <49BAD885.6060307@fedoraproject.org> <49BBAAA2.8080405@fedoraproject.org> <20090314213242.GE19452@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49BC2B46.2040708@fedoraproject.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 06:31:22PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Max Spevack wrote: >> >>> Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: >>> >>> a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the >>> record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the >>> marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, >>> then something fell through the cracks.) >> Not your fault. I just haven't been attending the marketing meetings or >> reading through the logs much. >>> b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? >> Not sure which ones to highlight more but I can go with the following >> broader themes and categorize the features including but not limited to >> the key things in the feature list. > [...snip...] > > This is an exhaustive list, which kind of defeats the point of > "highlights." However, you are completely correct that these are all > very worthy features. We had to choose a small list on which to > concentrate, which is the only rational strategy since we're covering > them with limited resources. > > Part of the reason we choose highlights and build stories around them, > rather than trying to do this with every single feature, is that Red > Hat Marketing lends substantial support to our campaign around each > release. They also have finite resources with which to do this work > and have asked me repeatedly for the past few releases to center in on > a handful of features that have immediate broad appeal or compelling > stories we can build around them. Yes, I understand that which is why I provided both a categorization of features that I think will make it easier for a audience to gain a broad overview but also specifically listed highlights at the end which I think deserves more press. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 15 00:52:17 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:22:17 +0530 Subject: Why glxgears Is Slower with Kernel Mode Setting, Why It Doesn't Matter Message-ID: <49BC5141.5000300@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://osnews.com/story/21133/Why_glxgears_Is_Slower_with_Kernel_Mode_Setting_Why_It_Doesn_t_Matter "Fedora Project has been on the forefont of development and adoption of kernel mode setting to enhance the desktop linux experience by making fairly invasive infrastructure improvements that affect the interaction between Xorg and the Linux kernel. In the past, one of the common way to test Xorg performance has been to use glxgears. While that hasn't been a particular good way to do it ever, the switch to kernel mode setting for Intel drivers ahead of the Fedora 11 Beta release to be available shortly has exposed the fallacy of this. In short, don't use glxgears. There are better methods to assess performance." Rahul From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 16:37:32 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:37:32 -0500 Subject: Picture book submissions now open Message-ID: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> Submissions for the Fedora Picture Book are now open! You can look at the instructions for submitting photos here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book Thanks to everyone who has made this possible so far! -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So I could use the help from someone having the will and a bit of time to take a critical look in a gallery and give an opinion about what that devil is saying, maybe we can salvage something for the book. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From ewanluca at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 17:43:12 2009 From: ewanluca at gmail.com (Ewan Luca) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:43:12 +0200 Subject: Someone please help me with the Photo book was Re: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <49BE8555.10401@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <49BE8555.10401@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <8a1586f70903161043p52000e9bk7590eb7080579bd8@mail.gmail.com> > > > So I could use the help from someone having the will and a bit of time to > take a critical look in a gallery and give an opinion about what that devil > is saying, maybe we can salvage something for the book. > > Nicu, can you post a link to those photos? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I might not be able to get a sticker to stay on a dog harness very well. -jef From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:08:44 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:08:44 -0500 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:03:26PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Man... i have to get that picture of a Fedora branded sleddog out in > front leading a team out on a trail. I'll have to see if I can > arrange that image. > > I take it I can use digital editing to put the fedora branding in the > picture? I might not be able to get a sticker to stay on a dog harness > very well. > I personally frown on doctoring Fedora logos into photos but maybe that's something we should discuss on this list. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicu's photos can be seen at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/ -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jaa at redhat.com Mon Mar 16 20:22:36 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:22:36 -0400 Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.17.03 @ 21.00 UTC Message-ID: <49BEB50C.4040501@redhat.com> Hello All, Sorry I forgot to send this sooner. Our meeting will take place as regular scheduled tomorrow, 21.00UTC, 5PM Eastern, 2 Pacific, in #fedora-mktg. Can we get a preview roll call again? Thanks, Jack From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:26:04 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:26:04 -0800 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Ian Weller wrote: > I personally frown on doctoring Fedora logos into photos but maybe > that's something we should discuss on this list. I just want to be clear as to the rules. Hence why I brought it up. I could try to slap a Fedora sticker on a dog harness but I don't think its gonna work too well...but I'll try. If I put one on and then just digitally touch it up later in case its covered in snow or the ink runs..would that be more acceptable? -jef From smooge at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:27:58 2009 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:27:58 -0600 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Ian Weller wrote: >> I personally frown on doctoring Fedora logos into photos but maybe >> that's something we should discuss on this list. > > > I just want to be clear as to the rules. ?Hence why I brought it up. > I could try to slap a Fedora sticker on a dog harness but I don't > think its gonna work too well...but I'll try. > > If I put one on and then just digitally touch it up later in case its > covered in snow or the ink runs..would that be more acceptable? > Most stickers are going to look small on a sleigh. I would go with a 11x17 printout in a plastic cover. That will make sure you have a good viewable section and not too smudgeable. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:34:53 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:34:53 -0800 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Most stickers are going to look small on a sleigh. I would go with a > 11x17 printout in a plastic cover. That will make sure you have a good > viewable section and not too smudgeable. I was going to put it on a dog..and do a narrow field of focus shot with the the dogs running..sled and driver out of focus. Fedora is the lead dog...not the driver. But I might have the driver wearing a red Fedora.... -jef From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:43:19 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:43:19 -0400 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:34:53PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Most stickers are going to look small on a sleigh. I would go with > > a 11x17 printout in a plastic cover. That will make sure you have > > a good viewable section and not too smudgeable. > > I was going to put it on a dog..and do a narrow field of focus shot > with the the dogs running..sled and driver out of focus. Fedora is > the lead dog...not the driver. But I might have the driver wearing > a red Fedora.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Argh, mixed marketing fail! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A red knitted cap? -jef From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:56:13 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:56:13 -0500 Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.17.03 @ 21.00 UTC In-Reply-To: <49BEB50C.4040501@redhat.com> References: <49BEB50C.4040501@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090316205613.GE26111@gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 04:22:36PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Can we get a preview roll call again? > \o/ -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Larry Cafiero On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Ian Weller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 04:22:36PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > Can we get a preview roll call again? > > > \o/ > > -- > Ian Weller http://ianweller.org > GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 > "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." > ~ Douglas Adams > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 21:02:06 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:02:06 -0400 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:47:07PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > Argh, mixed marketing fail! > > A red knitted cap? Make it blue and you have a deal. ;-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 21:12:33 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:12:33 -0500 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090316211233.GG26111@gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 05:02:06PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:47:07PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > Argh, mixed marketing fail! > > > > A red knitted cap? > > Make it blue and you have a deal. ;-) > +1 :P -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Clint From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 21:46:44 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:46:44 -0800 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa7910903161446m4f666af5v54b5f6ac62975b5d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:47:07PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > Argh, mixed marketing fail! >> >> A red knitted cap? > > Make it blue and you have a deal. ;-) You people, taking all the fun out of making multi-layered political statements via photography. Don't make me resurrect my goat mascot idea from cerca FC2. -jef From steven.moix at axianet.ch Mon Mar 16 21:49:39 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:49:39 +0100 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903161446m4f666af5v54b5f6ac62975b5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161446m4f666af5v54b5f6ac62975b5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1237240179.6807.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 13:46 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:47:07PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> > Argh, mixed marketing fail! > >> > >> A red knitted cap? > > > > Make it blue and you have a deal. ;-) > > You people, taking all the fun out of making multi-layered political > statements via photography. > Don't make me resurrect my goat mascot idea from cerca FC2. > > -jef > Fun with animals = endless possibilities :) http://forum.canardpc.com/showpost.php?p=1913396&postcount=142 Steven From ewanluca at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 22:49:12 2009 From: ewanluca at gmail.com (Ewan Luca) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:49:12 +0200 Subject: Someone please help me with the Photo book was Re: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <20090316201005.GC26111@gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <49BE8555.10401@nicubunu.ro> <8a1586f70903161043p52000e9bk7590eb7080579bd8@mail.gmail.com> <20090316201005.GC26111@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a1586f70903161549h240734ecu9965dc69a863b1e8@mail.gmail.com> > Nicu's photos can be seen at > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/ > I think the pictures can be arranged as a feature on the book. See at: http://issuu.com/borchi24/docs/pictures_br2008 Ewan Luca www.opencurse.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 00:01:21 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:01:21 -0400 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903161446m4f666af5v54b5f6ac62975b5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161446m4f666af5v54b5f6ac62975b5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090317000121.GA4115@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:46:44PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:47:07PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> > Argh, mixed marketing fail! > >> > >> A red knitted cap? > > > > Make it blue and you have a deal. ;-) > > You people, taking all the fun out of making multi-layered political > statements via photography. > Don't make me resurrect my goat mascot idea from cerca FC2. NOOOOOOOOOOO! ;-D -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 17 05:44:35 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:44:35 -0400 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <20090317042723.GA10422@gmail.com> References: <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161326k6d239e0fs98855010357761c5@mail.gmail.com> <80d7e4090903161327x54242df7oc13c88f416b155e5@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910903161334p529a98b0q855e6106ac2e80c4@mail.gmail.com> <20090316204319.GV4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161347r8fb6d54r2ee43d6a58c19290@mail.gmail.com> <20090316210206.GX4115@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903161446m4f666af5v54b5f6ac62975b5d@mail.gmail.com> <1237240179.6807.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49BF0A0A.9090007@blogmethat.net> <20090317042723.GA10422@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BF38C3.7030202@redhat.com> Ian Weller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:25:14PM -0400, Andrew Jamison wrote: > >> I want to go to the zoo and see if they will let me take a picture of a >> Penguin with a fedora sweater on it >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > To repeat the clanging bells of Paul... mixed marketing fail! > > I can haz fudora sweaterz? Jack From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 17 06:44:16 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:14:16 +0530 Subject: Open source is a company; social media is a country Message-ID: <49BF46C0.8030403@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Another post reninforcing the idea of meritocracy over democracy in Fedora http://www.longtail.com/the_long_tail/2009/03/open-source-is-a-company-social-media-is-a-country.html "Many people mistakenly think that open source projects are emergent, self-organized and democratic. The truth is just the opposite: most are run by a benevolent dictator or two. What makes successful open source projects is leadership, plain and simple. One or two people articulate a vision, start building towards it and bring others on board with specific tasks and permissions. The best projects are the ones with the best leaders." Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 17 08:16:44 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:16:44 +0200 Subject: Someone please help me with the Photo book was Re: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <8a1586f70903161549h240734ecu9965dc69a863b1e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <49BE8555.10401@nicubunu.ro> <8a1586f70903161043p52000e9bk7590eb7080579bd8@mail.gmail.com> <20090316201005.GC26111@gmail.com> <8a1586f70903161549h240734ecu9965dc69a863b1e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BF5C6C.9040404@nicubunu.ro> Ewan Luca wrote: > > Nicu's photos can be seen at > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/ I wanted to see the reactions before following with URLs and criteria fr selection, but that's the one. > I think the pictures can be arranged as a feature on the book. See at: > http://issuu.com/borchi24/docs/pictures_br2008 Currently those are the ideas for the layout: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups Basically it will focus on the 4 foundations. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 17 08:30:29 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:30:29 +0200 Subject: Picture book submissions now open In-Reply-To: <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> References: <20090316163732.GE19167@gmail.com> <604aa7910903161303q8c84f99y6261ed0fd591d11a@mail.gmail.com> <20090316200844.GB26111@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BF5FA5.6030206@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:03:26PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> >> I take it I can use digital editing to put the fedora branding in the >> picture? I might not be able to get a sticker to stay on a dog harness >> very well. >> > I personally frown on doctoring Fedora logos into photos but maybe > that's something we should discuss on this list. I am also against doctoring the photos, my vote would go to "unmanipulated" according with this definition: http://photo.net/photodb/manipulation -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 17 14:27:35 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (jaa at redhat.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Meeting TODAY 17.03 @ 21.00 UTC Message-ID: Hello All, Our meeting will take place today as scheduled, 21.00UTC, 5 EDT, 2 PDT in #fedora-mktg. On the agenda are the following items: - Schedule tasks - Talking points are completed, review them and get feedback - In-depth feature focus - Picture Book - New Business and a Surprise!! Thanks and see you all there, Jack From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Mar 17 22:07:52 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:07:52 +0100 Subject: Marketing Meeting 2009-03-17 IRC Log Message-ID: <1237327672.5727.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Here it is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-17 themayor showed us the talking points [1] ianweller told everyone that picture submissions to the picture book are open ianweller asked everyone to blog about the picture book [2] moixs is taking ownership of the user testimonials page moixs is going to write a beta release news for F11 spevack talked about the F11 in depth features we want to focus on. An e-mail will be sent to the mailinglist [3] themayor told everyone that on 2009-03-18 there will be a beta readiness meeting, he wants to talk to docs and art during this meeting 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features Steven From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 22:52:45 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:52:45 -0600 Subject: Marketing Meeting 2009-03-17 IRC Log In-Reply-To: <1237327672.5727.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1237327672.5727.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Steven Moix wrote: > Here it is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-17 > > themayor showed us the talking points [1] > ianweller told everyone that picture submissions to the picture book are open > ianweller asked everyone to blog about the picture book [2] > moixs is taking ownership of the user testimonials page > moixs is going to write a beta release news for F11 > spevack talked about the F11 in depth features we want to focus on. An e-mail will be sent to the mailinglist [3] > themayor told everyone that on 2009-03-18 there will be a beta readiness meeting, he wants to talk to docs and art during this meeting > > 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points > 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book > 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features > > Steven I've updated the F11 in-depth features[0] page with the templates for getting marketing info on the features on which we're focusing. You'll note that the template is based upon the Package Kit[1] page Paul created. Feel free to edit to your heart's content. Cheers, Clint 0 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F11_in-depth_features 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11 From lashar at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 17 23:03:31 2009 From: lashar at fedoraproject.org (Mostafa Daneshvar) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:33:31 +0330 Subject: Self-Introduction: Mostafa Daneshvar Message-ID: <1237331011.3125.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> * Full name : Mostafa Daneshvar * Country : Iran * Profession : I am a teacher * goals : making fedora available around the country. More goals on my wiki page * I'm a member of L10n and Ambassador(Iran) project in FP * I think I'm doing some sort of marketing jobs right now like : spreading news, taking part in different LUGs, soliciting a lot of Persian users to take part in different projects in FP. Mostafa Daneshvar Fedora Ambassador, Iran https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mostafadaneshvar http://mostafadaneshvar.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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More goals on my > wiki page > * I'm a member of L10n and Ambassador(Iran) project in FP > * I think I'm doing some sort of marketing jobs right now like : > spreading news, taking part in different LUGs, soliciting a lot of > Persian users to take part in different projects in FP. > > > Mostafa Daneshvar > Fedora Ambassador, Iran > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mostafadaneshvar > http://mostafadaneshvar.com > > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jaa at redhat.com Wed Mar 18 16:26:25 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:26:25 -0400 Subject: Mostafa Daneshvar In-Reply-To: <1237392325.2891.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <2ce4c5520903180837x232dc982h7136d513718b3927@mail.gmail.com> <1237392325.2891.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49C120B1.9080405@redhat.com> Whoa, that was intense.... :) Mostafa Daneshvar wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 19:07 +0330, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar wrote: > < ?? ??? ???? ? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ?????? > > Thank you Mohsen; > I an English teacher. As extra activities, I take part in different > localization teams in different free soft wares. As a Fedoran, I'm an > ambassador, translator and maintainer of Balochi team . If I have time I'll > take part in Persian team as well. My plans are listed in my wiki page > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mostafadaneshvar) and any other > information is available in my web page > ( http://mostafadaneshvar.com/about ) > > BTW, I use English as medium because it's a English list. please use (fedora-trans-fa at redhat.com) for Persian discussion and we have a channel in Freenode (#fedora-ir)you can join us there. > > > Mostafa Daneshvar > Fedora Ambassador, Iran > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mostafadaneshvar > http://mostafadaneshvar.com > > > From jaa at redhat.com Wed Mar 18 20:02:53 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:02:53 -0400 Subject: Translation for News Bits? Message-ID: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> Hey All, At the beta readiness meeting today we spoke briefly about the news distribution network. One of the points that was brought up was whether or not we could work together with the Fedora L10N team to translate some of the stories from english to other languages or vice-versa and how we could work together in the future. What do people think about this? Also, for people involved in the News Distribution Network, would you be interested in having things translated to your language or for your language? Diego do you want to add anything? Jack From felix at fetzig.org Wed Mar 18 20:39:34 2009 From: felix at fetzig.org (Felix Kaechele) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:39:34 +0100 Subject: Translation for News Bits? In-Reply-To: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> References: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49C15C06.50502@fetzig.org> On 18.03.2009 21:02, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > What do people think about this? Also, for people involved in the News > Distribution Network, would you be interested in having things > translated to your language or for your language? Well I must say that I actually don't care if it is translated for me or by me. I'm Ambassador and Translator as well so I probably would do the job myself. Felix From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Mar 18 20:40:29 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:40:29 +0100 Subject: Translation for News Bits? In-Reply-To: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> References: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1237408829.11899.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 16:02 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey All, > > At the beta readiness meeting today we spoke briefly about the news > distribution network. One of the points that was brought up was whether > or not we could work together with the Fedora L10N team to translate > some of the stories from english to other languages or vice-versa and > how we could work together in the future. > > What do people think about this? The idea is nice, but I'm afraid of delays. Do you know how many people are in the L10N team and if they are motivated to work fast on demand? The translation task was initially assigned to all the people who volunteered to the NDN, to reduce the delays. > Also, for people involved in the News > Distribution Network, would you be interested in having things > translated to your language or for your language? > > Diego do you want to add anything? > > Jack > From hisham.imam at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 20:45:41 2009 From: hisham.imam at gmail.com (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:45:41 +0300 Subject: Translation for News Bits? 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Go make comments on the talk page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Submitting_images_for_the_picture_book ) I've started the account registration process with Lightning Source (LSI). They sent along this file that will be necessary to read for information regarding our book. http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/lsi-docs/LSI_FileCreationGuide_v5.pdf If you'll be helping with the design or layout of the book please give that a read. We don't need to worry about it too much now but it's a good idea to keep it in the back of your mind when doing mockups or looking at photos. -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For the next few weeks, final ideas are going to be posted, students will look them over, and begin proposing projects. Mentors work with student proposals to improve them -- get the scope and timeline well considered, for example. My marketeer gut says, "Get even more proposals and mentors in this year, so even if we get fewer student slots in a rescaled GSoC, they are the most passionate and dedicated students." Along those lines, I asked the Ambassadors to keep on the hunt.[2] Oh, and to consider being mentors to get some of their development ideas completed. Any other ideas of where else to go and who to ask? One thing to consider -- if the student is already known within or close to Fedora Project circles, that may increase their chance of success. They have a higher likelihood of understanding and being passionate about the type of projects we like to choose.[3] Thanks and keep spreading the love.[4] - Karsten [1] http://iquaid.org/2009/03/18/students-start-your-engines-fedora-and-jbossorg-project-discussion-period-for-google-summer-of-code/ [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-March/msg00440.html [3] http://groups.google.com/group/redhat-summer/web/projects [4] http://spreadlovenow.org/ because I mean it. -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mentors work with > student proposals to improve them -- get the scope and timeline well > considered, for example. > > My marketeer gut says, "Get even more proposals and mentors in this > year, so even if we get fewer student slots in a rescaled GSoC, they > are the most passionate and dedicated students." > > Along those lines, I asked the Ambassadors to keep on the hunt.[2] > Oh, and to consider being mentors to get some of their development > ideas completed. > > Any other ideas of where else to go and who to ask? Are we running banner ads for this in the frontpage? Rahul From diegobz at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 12:17:56 2009 From: diegobz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Diego_B=FArigo_Zacar=E3o?=) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:17:56 -0300 Subject: Translation for News Bits? In-Reply-To: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> References: <49C1536D.2070502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6600c1b10903200517h383457c1k3a10e95ab41278ca@mail.gmail.com> Hello, On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hey All, > > At the beta readiness meeting today we spoke briefly about the news > distribution network. One of the points that was brought up was whether or > not we could work together with the Fedora L10N team to translate some of > the stories from english to other languages or vice-versa and how we could > work together in the future. > > What do people think about this? Also, for people involved in the News > Distribution Network, would you be interested in having things translated to > your language or for your language? > > Diego do you want to add anything? > Sorry for the delay guys, but it was a busy week with the Transifex 0.5 Release. Well, from where I can see, we could encourage people from the L10N group to join the NDN group. It would reduce delays as cited in another reply. AFAIK we already have a set of people for the set of languages chosen, as we can see here[1]. Those people should have in mind that if they can't do the work for a specific news/period, they could/must try contact theirs local Fedora main list (i.e fedora-trans-pt_br) asking someone to do the work. What I mean is that IMHO the NDN more or less seems to be a selected group of people from the L10N group, with some more 'responsibilities', as focus in marketing, for example. So we are already working together more or less. BTW if the NDN team wants to send an email for the fedora-trans-list once in a while announcing any topic/news to be translated, as an encouragement for other languages to start doing it, I can't see anything against it. Just let me know if I misunderstood something. :) [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network#Responsible_people_for_the_Fedora_11_cycle Regards -- Diego B?rigo Zacar?o http://diegobz.net Linux User #402589 USE SOFTWARE LIVRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rohit.kgec at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 14:40:57 2009 From: rohit.kgec at gmail.com (Rohit Gupta) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Formation of GNU/LUG of KGEC.. Message-ID: <5766933a-3448-4864-b93b-13923b14f4f0@b9g2000prd.googlegroups.com> KGEC LUG Details: 1.The KGEC LUG will maintain college computers assigned to them. 2.There will be core committee of LUG whose members will be sound in Technical Skill. 3.The core committee will maintain all the college computers and all they will do their work after the college hour. (since it is branch and year independent) 4.The core committee will the soul of the LUG, will help the Linux users and carry on FOSS events. 5.The President will be the head of this core committee followed by a vice president. 6.The core committee is open to all and anyone can join it after completing a process. The participant will have to qualify the following criteria: i) He/She will have to register for membership in core committee. ii) He/She will have to actively participate and work under the guidance of the existing core committee. iii) After a month, the participant will be considered a member of the core committee if the core committee feels that the participant has acquired necessary skills iv) He/she will be given a membership certificate. iv) If the participant is still not well suited for the post, he/she will have to continue his activities with the core-committee for few more days as non core-committee member. Eventually the participation will be approved. 6.The membership of LUG is open to all, even from other colleges. 7.Every member of the LUG will have to join the mailing list. *8. The members of the LUG can request free media of any available Distribution to the core committee. (This is only possible if the FOSS Community helps by providing CD's and DVD's, else interested candidates will have to get blank CD's or DVD's) 9.The members of LUG can post all their Linux related problems in the Mailing List and can also help with the solution of others problem. The Mailing List will have even experts from the FOSS community to guide and help with the solution. What is there for a LUG Member? 1. Feedback from better people 2. Solutions to problems that he himself can not fix 3. Industry standard skills in documentation and planning 4. Online code portfolio for potential recruiters 5. Extending the skills acquired to grab fellowships/Summers of Code Work already Done: 1) Having Successfully conducting an installfest in KGEC. Details: http://kgeclug.blog.co.in/ Photo Gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/kgec/ http://picasaweb.google.co.in/kgeclug/KGECInstallfest09 http://www.flickr.com/photos/indradg/sets/72157614247371239/ 2) Setting up a computer in the college Library which has public access with a poster as "Maintained by GNU/LUG of KGEC". It is under our full control. Link for Pictures: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/sredir?uname=rohit.kgec&target=ALBUM&id=5314781943074716337&authkey=Gv1sRgCLO2v5LL6LqD-wE&invite=CPPxsZAJ&feat=email 3) Getting the support of college and there will be no objections. (but with no funds. We may have to manage funds even for Workshops) 4) No. of Computers expected: a) 15-20 in CSE Lab. b) more than 5 in EE Lab. **** We will approach with this concepts to other departments also for their labs. (IT, MCA, ECE, ME) **** Each computer will have the label as "Maintained by GNU/LUG of KGEC". 5) Starting the Linux For You Magazine in college. starting next month. 6) We have the full fedora repo (25 GB) for Intel architecture. 7) We have loads of many other different distributions. 8) We already have few interested members for the core committee. (They are also Linux users but with not sufficient knowledge.) 9) I am a Fedora Ambassador and am trying to help them. 10) The Official Inauguration will be done in the 2nd week of April (date not yet Fixed, Proposals welcome) 11) To manage the required funds, there's a option to apply membership fees. Pros and Cons We think: Pro's: 1) The core-Committee members can have live experimentation on the college computers and get things working. 2) Students who don't have computers or is not willing to experiment, will also get the opportunity to gain the knowledge and necessary skills. 3) We can deploy industry standard mechanisms to help maintain machines easier. 4) The core-committee members become experts and there is a chain effect followed by them. 5) Free Publicity through Posters about KGEC LUG. Con's: 1) The LUG will be more like an organization and not a group. 2) If we lack response, it may be difficult. We are also thinking of organizing classes and workshops which depends on response and interest in core-committee. We have seen the enthusiasm in students during installfest and so, we are hoping for a Success.. The Official Inauguration will be done in the 2nd week of April (date not yet Fixed, Proposals welcome). We will also include FOSS events during this time and I also request the FOSS community to help me out with the events Suggestions are Welcome as reply.. From sherry151 at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 15:43:46 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:13:46 +0530 Subject: Formation of GNU/LUG of KGEC and FOSS event Message-ID: > > The Official Inauguration will be done in the 2nd week of April (date > not yet Fixed, Proposals welcome). We will also include FOSS events > during this time and I also request the FOSS community to help me out > with the events > Thats a good initiative. I will try my best to be there. I guess a lot of people will be happy to help out. Anyone around Kolkata or Kalyani who might want to give a presentation on FOSS topic can step forward. 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I don't know what this will end up looking like, but I figure we will have discussion on here and that those ideas should be spelled out on the wiki as well so we can draw from them all. Put in the key words at the top and then use the rest as a scratch space. The slogan really is the all-encompassing message for the release so we need to put our thinking caps on. I'm sure Paul, et. al. will offer some guidance, but otherwise, show me what you got. Whats the best you've got? Jack From jaa at redhat.com Fri Mar 20 20:45:10 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:45:10 -0400 Subject: This Weekend Message-ID: <49C40056.2010501@redhat.com> Hey All, We are ramping up tackling work items on the schedule as we inch ever closer to beta. It's knocking on out door and we need to put things into high gear. As you can see even the items on the schedule are growing every day and we need some good folks to step up to the plate. We can't afford to fall back now!! Here is what could use some love in the next 2-3 days and into next Tuesday: * If you've added anything to the F11 Schedule, please add it to the Template schedule located here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_schedule_template * We still gave two in depth features which have no person to cover them. A couple of guys mentioned on Tuesday that they would be able to pick them up. If you would please add your name to the table here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features and start working on getting scheduling some time with people working on the feature for next week that would be awesome and it would ensure that we are keeping tight with the schedule. * If you are part of the News Distribution Network, please begin contacting press people and notifying them the beta is coming up and see if they have any questions you can answer and have them "on tap" and ready. * Submit pictures for the picture book. The page is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book. Click on the image submission link and get your upload on! Also, if you have yet to blog about it, blog about it. * We need to start working on the Press materials. The page can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_material. Please take a look at it and find something you can work on and start taking a look at it. We should have this hammered out in the next 2-3 weeks so that we can work with the art team on making it look pretty for GA. Also, If you manage to accomplish anything, drop a line to the list and/or to myself. Word is, someone is tracking whose been active and plans on giving them some goodies! Thanks, Jack From stickster at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 21:20:47 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:20:47 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090320212047.GB26316@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:31:57PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: [...snip...] > I threw up a quick and dirty wiki page at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/F11_Release_Slogan . [...snip...] We no longer use hierarchical directory-type names for pages on the wiki. Please save names directly to a plain English name, without title caps case. In this case, a good name would just be "F11_release_slogan". That's the accepted standard, per our wiki czar, and it makes the title more easily searchable. You can then categorize the page by adding [[Category:Marketing]] at the bottom, which accomplishes the same goal of grouping like pages together. When you name pages in this way, note that you also don't need to include a header in the page text with the title again. I've moved the page to this new name: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 21:38:15 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:38:15 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:31:57PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > The slogan really is the all-encompassing message for the release so we > need to put our thinking caps on. I'm sure Paul, et. al. will offer some > guidance, but otherwise, show me what you got. I put a really bad example in the page just so it wouldn't look so empty. I also added some themes. Historically, we've used a slogan that complements the artistic theme of the release. I don't see any reason not to do that again. I've put in a candidate to kick things off. Add your thoughts to the page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mentors work with > > student proposals to improve them -- get the scope and timeline well > > considered, for example. > > > > My marketeer gut says, "Get even more proposals and mentors in this > > year, so even if we get fewer student slots in a rescaled GSoC, they > > are the most passionate and dedicated students." > > > > Along those lines, I asked the Ambassadors to keep on the hunt.[2] > > Oh, and to consider being mentors to get some of their development > > ideas completed. > > > > Any other ideas of where else to go and who to ask? > > Are we running banner ads for this in the frontpage? That sounds like a great idea (forwarding this to the fedora-art-list). Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From jaa at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 17:34:57 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:34:57 -0400 Subject: REMINDER: MEETING TOMORROW 2009.03.23 @ 21.00UTC Message-ID: <49C7C841.5030401@redhat.com> This is just your friendly reminder that our marketing team meeting will be tomorrow at 21.00UTC, thats 5 Eastern, 2 Pacific in #fedora-mktg. Can we please have an advanced roll call again as well? Thanks, Jack From jaa at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 17:36:17 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:36:17 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? I'm hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. Jack Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:31:57PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> The slogan really is the all-encompassing message for the release so we >> need to put our thinking caps on. I'm sure Paul, et. al. will offer some >> guidance, but otherwise, show me what you got. >> > > I put a really bad example in the page just so it wouldn't look so > empty. I also added some themes. Historically, we've used a slogan > that complements the artistic theme of the release. I don't see any > reason not to do that again. I've put in a candidate to kick things > off. Add your thoughts to the page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan > > From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 17:42:26 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:42:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? > I'm hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". --Max From mdehaan at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 17:52:44 2009 From: mdehaan at redhat.com (Michael DeHaan) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:52:44 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49C7CC6C.7060706@redhat.com> Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? I'm >> hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. > > I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". > > --Max > Except it's not exciting :) I have added "Goes to Eleven" to compensate :p --Michael From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 17:53:51 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:53:51 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:42:26PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? I'm >> hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. > > I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". I do too -- can we shape this into an "action" sentence like previous slogans? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Turn It To 11. :p From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 18:08:01 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:08:01 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <49C7CD12.9020306@redhat.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <49C7CD12.9020306@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090323180801.GH5964@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 01:55:30PM -0400, Michael DeHaan wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:42:26PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >>> >>> >>>> We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? >>>> I'm hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. >>>> >>> I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". >>> >> >> I do too -- can we shape this into an "action" sentence like previous >> slogans? >> >> > > Sure... > > Turn It To 11. How could we have forgotten, in the stampede toward Leonidas, the primal call of MO' VOLUME? I'm going to the slogans page and if this isn't there already I'll be sorely disappointed. :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mthompso at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 18:44:46 2009 From: mthompso at redhat.com (Michelle Thompson) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:44:46 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49C7D89E.7030902@redhat.com> I wanted to add: Freedom continues. However ... I am not able to log into the slogan page. Maybe I don't have the right role or som'n. If someone can help me figure out how to log in to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan as username = mthompso ... then I can add there. Notes/reasoning: Freedom continues over time (comparing ancient times to now), and freedom is one of the key words, and I can imagine that the artwork is free (open spaces, etc.) and continues (the mountains, sky, etc. don't just end after the artwork; they themselves continue ... one could imagine). BONUS possibility: If we 'animated' the slogan Freedom continues. Then the F is in Fedora, 1 is in the 'd' in freedom and the other 1 is in the 't' in continues. F 1 1 Freedom Continues ... of course, that's if you wanted to 'transform' F11 into the slogan. Happy to add to the page! Just lookin' for a nudge on how. Cheers, mt Jack Aboutboul wrote: > We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? I'm > hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. > > Jack > > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:31:57PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> >>> The slogan really is the all-encompassing message for the release so >>> we need to put our thinking caps on. I'm sure Paul, et. al. will >>> offer some guidance, but otherwise, show me what you got. >>> >> >> I put a really bad example in the page just so it wouldn't look so >> empty. I also added some themes. Historically, we've used a slogan >> that complements the artistic theme of the release. I don't see any >> reason not to do that again. I've put in a candidate to kick things >> off. Add your thoughts to the page: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan >> >> > -- Looking to carve out IT costs? www.redhat.com/carveoutcosts/ From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 22:03:54 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:03:54 -0800 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:42:26PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> >>> We have some pretty good ones, so far. ?Anyone else have anything? I'm >>> hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. >> >> I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". > > I do too -- can we shape this into an "action" sentence like previous > slogans? What is the opposite of tradition? innovation? Fedora 11: Innovating a tradition of freedom. -jef From jaa at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 23:33:16 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (jaa at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2D3E6154-CAB2-423E-9B52-AB8069F1D580@redhat.com> On Mar 23, 2009, at 18:05, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Paul W. Frields > wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:42:26PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >>> >>>> We have some pretty good ones, so far. ??Anyone else have anyt >>>> hing? I'm >>>> hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. >>> >>> I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". >> >> I do too -- can we shape this into an "action" sentence like previous >> slogans? > > What is the opposite of tradition? innovation? > > Fedora 11: Innovating a tradition of freedom. > > -jef > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list How about innovating freedom or innovative freedom or even freeing innovation? Jack From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 00:09:26 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:09:26 -0800 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <2D3E6154-CAB2-423E-9B52-AB8069F1D580@redhat.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> <2D3E6154-CAB2-423E-9B52-AB8069F1D580@redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > How about innovating freedom or innovative freedom or even freeing > innovation? I was trying to work in the concept Ian Weller introduced in one of his recent blog posts of deeply meaningful phases constructed from contradicting elements as a general meme for Fedora release slogans. Along those lines would be a slogan like this : Fedora 11: Harnessing the freedom to innovate As harnessing and freedom are dissonant. -jef"clearly Ian and I should never be put in a room together, the world may not survive the reading of the resulting manifesto of shared purpose we would write."spaleta From mohaas05 at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 00:15:47 2009 From: mohaas05 at gmail.com (Kamin Horvath) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:15:47 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> <2D3E6154-CAB2-423E-9B52-AB8069F1D580@redhat.com> <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D064062-E9CB-4958-89CC-6800EE5F8CCD@gmail.com> I like freedom to innovate. It's short and catchy and doesn't sound overtly political or symbolic like some of the other phrases Kamin Horvath Fedora Ambassadors USA On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM, wrote: >> How about innovating freedom or innovative freedom or even freeing >> innovation? > > I was trying to work in the concept Ian Weller introduced in one of > his recent blog posts of deeply meaningful phases constructed from > contradicting elements as a general meme for Fedora release slogans. > > Along those lines would be a slogan like this : > Fedora 11: Harnessing the freedom to innovate > > As harnessing and freedom are dissonant. > > -jef"clearly Ian and I should never be put in a room together, the > world may not survive the reading of the resulting manifesto of shared > purpose we would write."spaleta > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 01:57:41 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:57:41 -0500 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> <2D3E6154-CAB2-423E-9B52-AB8069F1D580@redhat.com> <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090324015741.GB26004@gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 04:09:26PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > > How about innovating freedom or innovative freedom or even freeing > > innovation? > > I was trying to work in the concept Ian Weller introduced in one of > his recent blog posts of deeply meaningful phases constructed from > contradicting elements as a general meme for Fedora release slogans. > > Along those lines would be a slogan like this : > Fedora 11: Harnessing the freedom to innovate > > As harnessing and freedom are dissonant. > > -jef"clearly Ian and I should never be put in a room together, the > world may not survive the reading of the resulting manifesto of shared > purpose we would write."spaleta > Noted. :P -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've got meetings w/ JBoss people today, and we might be at dinner or something. --Max From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 24 07:23:44 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:23:44 +0200 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49C88A80.6090906@nicubunu.ro> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:42:26PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> >>> We have some pretty good ones, so far. Anyone else have anything? I'm >>> hoping we can discuss these tomorrow at the meeting. >> I like Nicu's suggestion: "A tradition of freedom". > > I do too -- can we shape this into an "action" sentence like previous > slogans? Keep the tradition of Freedom? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From ewanluca at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 09:45:51 2009 From: ewanluca at gmail.com (Ewan Luca) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:45:51 +0200 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <49C88A80.6090906@nicubunu.ro> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <49C88A80.6090906@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <8a1586f70903240245j2c3ce5edr5df0adc62b3354bf@mail.gmail.com> Maybe it's just me but "tradition" sounds like an over-used word (mostly in bakery products :D). "Picture Perfect" short and punchy, I like it but it doesn't really say anything related to the brief or Fedora or... I like the "11/heaven" rhyme, yet I'm not sure about using "11". After "9-" it might have a strange sound to it. "A code of freedom" - I don't know what movie it's about but it makes sense. For the end user dough features are important not the code. And for code as in "code of honour" we need to change the temple in the artwork with some round table knights castle. But I like it. A lot. "A code of freedom" - even sounds good. Rahul's "Friends of Freedom" has 2 of the 4F's(*). This is a very good start already. If it doesn't sound gay "Friendly Freedom" might became the base of a good slogan. "Friendly Freedom Akademia" ;) (*)I'm sorry if somebody gets offended by "4F" - it's a loosing battle. Short of life threats, anybody would say 4F's instead of 4 Foundations - that's how language works. Luca, Fedora Ambassador www.opencurse.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Mar 24 10:03:26 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:03:26 +0100 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC Message-ID: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> Hello all, I just created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is the news I want to spread via the NDN (News Distribution Network) when the beta will be released. This is a point we should talk about this evening during the IRC meeting, but feel free to edit it meanwhile. Thanks Steven From yanstadel at googlemail.com Tue Mar 24 10:50:10 2009 From: yanstadel at googlemail.com (Yannik Stadelmaier) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:50:10 +0100 Subject: Slogan for F11 Message-ID: <49C8BAE2.3020001@googlemail.com> Just had a shower and a funny idea. What do you think about playing with the phrase "form follows function" like for example "function follows freedom" or "innovation follows freedom" or sth. like that? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 13:10:45 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:10:45 -0400 Subject: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C3FD3D.6060603@redhat.com> <20090320213815.GC26316@localhost.localdomain> <49C7C891.7090005@redhat.com> <20090323175351.GE5964@localhost.localdomain> <604aa7910903231503k781a3669va2726db9496b6636@mail.gmail.com> <2D3E6154-CAB2-423E-9B52-AB8069F1D580@redhat.com> <604aa7910903231709v83bdbf7w7bf3ee734eb59bb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090324131045.GB17040@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 04:09:26PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > > How about innovating freedom or innovative freedom or even freeing > > innovation? > > I was trying to work in the concept Ian Weller introduced in one of > his recent blog posts of deeply meaningful phases constructed from > contradicting elements as a general meme for Fedora release slogans. > > Along those lines would be a slogan like this : > Fedora 11: Harnessing the freedom to innovate > > As harnessing and freedom are dissonant. Can you make this take the form of a call for action? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 13:15:52 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:15:52 -0400 Subject: Slogan == Call to action Message-ID: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> The best slogans are calls to action. Can we agree to concentrate not on descriptions of Fedora for a slogan, but calls to action, with an active verb? "Freedom to rock out": Not such a good slogan. There's no call to action, just a description of what the product provides. "Rock out": Better, and makes the consumer feel like they're being empowered by the product. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 13:24:18 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:24:18 -0400 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> Message-ID: <20090324132418.GE17040@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:03:26AM +0100, Steven Moix wrote: > Hello all, > > I just created > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is > the news I want to spread via the NDN (News Distribution Network) when the > beta will be released. This is a point we should talk about this evening > during the IRC meeting, but feel free to edit it meanwhile. Steven, I'm not sure if you were aware that the Docs team is already working on the official Beta release announcement, which is found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Beta_Announcement The Docs team took the lead on creating this announcement, in the release readiness meeting held last week: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-March/msg00070.html That meeting includes a representative from each team that's part of the Fedora release. Jack was present at that meeting to represent the Marketing team. He should help coordinate Marketing input into the Docs team's writing of the announcement, as indicated in the notes. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I live in Herrenberg > near Stuttgart in the south-west of Germany and I am studying > social/cultural anthropology (stressed on "Central Eurasia", means the > region between the black sea nd southern china like Kyrgysia or Georgia) at > the University of Tuebingen. My goal in the Fedora Project is to represent > it as a Amabassador, become member of the marketing team and, maybe in the > future help by building rpm's. > > In the past, i published few versions of the tux:gaming magazine, a mag > about gaming and linux, which i had to stop because of too much work and to > less contributions of others. > > I would like to join the marketing team to establish something like "People > of openSuSE" ( http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE ) for the Fedora > Project. > > Greetings > Yannik 'yanstadel' Stadelmaier > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Take care, Paul-Marc Bougharios, Engr http://www.paulmarc.org/ May God Be With You -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jack From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 24 15:01:22 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:01:22 -0400 Subject: Self-Introduction: Yannik Stadelmaier In-Reply-To: <49C8E2F3.8010409@googlemail.com> References: <49C8E2F3.8010409@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <49C8F5C2.4070401@redhat.com> Hello Yannik, Welcome to the team, we are glad to have you. We are working on something called the "Face of Fedora" which is supposed to be a video highlighting the contributors in the community, but at this point I don't know who is holding the ball on that. Paul, any updates on that? If you would like to do something like that in writing, please feel free. If you can attend the marketing meeting tonight, at 21.00UTC in #fedora-mktg on irc, I would be glad to add that to the agenda. Do you think you can make it? Thanks, Jack Yannik Stadelmaier wrote: > Hi all! > > My Name is Yannik Stadelmaier and I am 20 years old. I live in > Herrenberg near Stuttgart in the south-west of Germany and I am > studying social/cultural anthropology (stressed on "Central Eurasia", > means the region between the black sea nd southern china like Kyrgysia > or Georgia) at the University of Tuebingen. My goal in the Fedora > Project is to represent it as a Amabassador, become member of the > marketing team and, maybe in the future help by building rpm's. > > In the past, i published few versions of the tux:gaming magazine, a > mag about gaming and linux, which i had to stop because of too much > work and to less contributions of others. > > I would like to join the marketing team to establish something like > "People of openSuSE" ( http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE ) for > the Fedora Project. > > Greetings > Yannik 'yanstadel' Stadelmaier > From anton.cost at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 15:01:31 2009 From: anton.cost at gmail.com (Konstantinos Antonakoglou) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:01:31 +0200 Subject: Slogan == Call to action In-Reply-To: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1237906891.2934.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Ok then. Based on slogans already mentioned and because of the name of Fedora 11 I would go for something like, "empower freedom" (calling consumers to participate and also bonds well with Leonidas, a person of great power) or "achieve innovation". -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B constanton @ Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 15:02:32 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:02:32 -0400 Subject: Slogan == Call to action In-Reply-To: <49C8F4E4.40606@redhat.com> References: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> <49C8F4E4.40606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090324150232.GJ17040@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:57:40AM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> The best slogans are calls to action. Can we agree to concentrate not >> on descriptions of Fedora for a slogan, but calls to action, with an >> active verb? >> >> "Freedom to rock out": Not such a good slogan. There's no call to >> action, just a description of what the product provides. >> >> "Rock out": Better, and makes the consumer feel like they're being >> empowered by the product. >> >> > Innovate Freely? There you go! :-) Now *all* the slogans should do that. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There's no call to >> action, just a description of what the product provides. >> >> "Rock out": Better, and makes the consumer feel like they're being >> empowered by the product. >> >> > Innovate Freely? > > Jack > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Sent from my mobile device From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 24 15:10:57 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:10:57 -0400 Subject: Meeting TODAY 2009.03.24 @ 21.00UTC Message-ID: <49C8F801.1090507@redhat.com> Hello All, We will have our regularly scheduled marketing meeting today, as scheduled. What: Fedora Marketing Team Meeting When: 21.00UTC, 5PM Eastern, 2PM Pacific Where: #fedora-mktg on irc.freenode.net What: Review things on schedule here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule, Release Slogan, Beta Announcement, Face of Fedora Video, Follow up from Beta-Ready meeting... See you all there, Jack From mostafa.daneshvar at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 15:08:19 2009 From: mostafa.daneshvar at gmail.com (Mostafa Daneshvar) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:38:19 +0430 Subject: Slogan == Call to action In-Reply-To: <49C8F4E4.40606@redhat.com> References: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> <49C8F4E4.40606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1237907299.10181.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:57 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > The best slogans are calls to action. Can we agree to concentrate not > > on descriptions of Fedora for a slogan, but calls to action, with an > > active verb? my suggestion: "Spread it". 'It' can be Fedora,freedom,etc. Mostafa Daneshvar Fedora Ambassador, Iran https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mostafadaneshvar http://mostafadaneshvar.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From anton.cost at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 15:22:47 2009 From: anton.cost at gmail.com (Konstantinos Antonakoglou) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:22:47 +0200 Subject: Slogan == Call to action In-Reply-To: <49C8F84A.40401@redhat.com> References: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> <1237906891.2934.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49C8F84A.40401@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1237908167.2934.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:12 -0700, Christopher Aillon wrote: > On that note, it would be cool if the DVD/CD cover art had ????? ???? > ("Come and get them!"), which Leonidas famously uttered. > This is why Pierros Papadeas proposed his slogan (the 3rd one on the list here[1]). I believe it could also be expressed like "Fedora 11 "Leonidas" : come and use it" or something like that... [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B constanton @ Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 24 15:22:49 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: Slogan for F11 Message-ID: <501410.24149.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resending cuz I think it got trapped by mailman... ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:51:51 AM > Subject: Re: Slogan for F11 -- Original Message ---- > > From: Paul W. Frields > > Can you make this take the form of a call for action? > > I like slogans that are calls to action and relevant to the artwork. > > The primary subject of the artwork is a mountain range that is meant to relate > to Mount Olympus which is a holy kind of place. It's the highest mountain in > Greece and was said to be the home of the gods. (thanks Wikipedia!) > > So I'm thinking verbs like: > - alight > - arise > - ascend > - lift > - mount > - rise > - scale > - soar > > E.g., > > "Soar above the clouds" > "Ascend to freedom" > "Enjoy the view" > "Elevate your computer" > > blah blah > > ~m From yanstadel at googlemail.com Tue Mar 24 15:39:33 2009 From: yanstadel at googlemail.com (Yannik Stadelmaier) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:33 +0100 Subject: Self-Introduction: Yannik Stadelmaier In-Reply-To: <49C8F5C2.4070401@redhat.com> References: <49C8E2F3.8010409@googlemail.com> <49C8F5C2.4070401@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49C8FEB5.8060205@googlemail.com> UTC 21:00 means 22:00 for me, so yes, i going to join the meeting! Greetings Yannik Jack Aboutboul schrieb: > Hello Yannik, > > Welcome to the team, we are glad to have you. We are working on > something called the "Face of Fedora" which is supposed to be a video > highlighting the contributors in the community, but at this point I > don't know who is holding the ball on that. Paul, any updates on that? > > If you would like to do something like that in writing, please feel > free. If you can attend the marketing meeting tonight, at 21.00UTC in > #fedora-mktg on irc, I would be glad to add that to the agenda. > > Do you think you can make it? > > Thanks, > Jack > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Mar 24 13:28:43 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:28:43 +0100 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <20090324132418.GE17040@localhost.localdomain> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <20090324132418.GE17040@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1237901323.8539.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 09:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Steven, > > I'm not sure if you were aware that the Docs team is already working > on the official Beta release announcement, which is found here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Beta_Announcement Damned, I wasn't aware of this :/ > > The Docs team took the lead on creating this announcement, in > the release readiness meeting held last week: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-March/msg00070.html > > That meeting includes a representative from each team that's part of > the Fedora release. Jack was present at that meeting to represent the > Marketing team. He should help coordinate Marketing input into the > Docs team's writing of the announcement, as indicated in the notes. From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 16:29:09 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:29:09 -0400 Subject: Slogan == Call to action In-Reply-To: <1237908167.2934.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090324131552.GD17040@localhost.localdomain> <1237906891.2934.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49C8F84A.40401@redhat.com> <1237908167.2934.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090324162909.GN17040@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 05:22:47PM +0200, Konstantinos Antonakoglou wrote: > On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:12 -0700, Christopher Aillon wrote: > > On that note, it would be cool if the DVD/CD cover art had ????? ???? > > ("Come and get them!"), which Leonidas famously uttered. > > > > This is why Pierros Papadeas proposed his slogan (the 3rd one on the > list here[1]). > > I believe it could also be expressed like "Fedora 11 "Leonidas" : come > and use it" or something like that... > > [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan "Come and get it" is really close in meaning, and well understood too. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 16:31:46 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:31:46 -0400 Subject: Fw: Slogan for F11 In-Reply-To: <501410.24149.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <501410.24149.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090324163146.GO17040@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:22:49AM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Resending cuz I think it got trapped by mailman... > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:51:51 AM > > Subject: Re: Slogan for F11 > -- Original Message ---- > > > From: Paul W. Frields > > > Can you make this take the form of a call for action? > > > > I like slogans that are calls to action and relevant to the artwork. > > > > The primary subject of the artwork is a mountain range that is meant to relate > > to Mount Olympus which is a holy kind of place. It's the highest mountain in > > Greece and was said to be the home of the gods. (thanks Wikipedia!) > > > > So I'm thinking verbs like: > > - alight > > - arise > > - ascend > > - lift > > - mount > > - rise > > - scale > > - soar > > > > E.g., > > > > "Soar above the clouds" > > "Ascend to freedom" > > "Enjoy the view" > > "Elevate your computer" > > > > blah blah Good thinking Mo -- these are excellent key words that could be included on the wiki page too... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_release_slogan -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields wrote: > I'm not sure if you were aware that the Docs team is already working > on the official Beta release announcement, which is found here: What's our plan for solving the necessary cross-communication between Marketing, Docs, Artwork, and Websites during the rest of this (and future) release cycles, so as to prevent future duplication of work? --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 24 19:21:58 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:21:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: Meeting TODAY 2009.03.24 @ 21.00UTC In-Reply-To: <49C8F801.1090507@redhat.com> References: <49C8F801.1090507@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > We will have our regularly scheduled marketing meeting today, as > scheduled. I will be unable to attend today's meeting, but I will read the logs. I hope everyone has a good meeting, and thanks for all your efforts. --Max From cmpahar at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 23:52:43 2009 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:52:43 +0200 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <20090324132418.GE17040@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > I'm not sure if you were aware that the Docs team is already working on >> the official Beta release announcement, which is found here: >> > > What's our plan for solving the necessary cross-communication between > Marketing, Docs, Artwork, and Websites during the rest of this (and future) > release cycles, so as to prevent future duplication of work? > > --Max > Maybe a common wiki page with topics-pages categorized with a small preview who were created for the name of the release cycle? > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Christos Bacharakis christos at bacharakis.com http://bacharakis.com GPG Key: CCFA0AEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Mar 25 07:16:04 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:04 +0100 Subject: Marketing Meeting 2009-03-24 IRC Log Message-ID: <9b247dbcdf8c5b3bd66df405de3a2071@mail.axianet.ch> Here it is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-24 Summary: * moixs and themayor talked about the beta release announcement mixup with the docs team and how to spread it next week * We talked about the Fedora 11 slogan, we will give it 2 more weeks for ideas, then we'll contact the Art team. stickster noted that he had the right to veto it * spevack told everyone that he could do some interviews in Amsterdam * yanstadel and themayor made a plan to interview Fedora people, first individuals (written), then groups (written), then videos Have a nice day Steven From yanstadel at googlemail.com Wed Mar 25 12:53:39 2009 From: yanstadel at googlemail.com (Yannik Stadelmaier) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:53:39 +0100 Subject: Face of Fedora Message-ID: <49CA2953.8050408@googlemail.com> Ok, so as we talked yesterday at the meeting, i help to run this project. Do we call the whole campaign (written & audio & video interveiws) Face of Fedora? I think this would be the best idea. So then everyone has a place to go when he searches stuff of the project. So maybe we ca split it up like this structure: Face of Fedora |-- Written Interveiws |-- Audio Interviews |-- Video Interviews |-- Proposals for interview-partners For the proposals we can use a table like this: Media | Name | Contribution ---------------------------------------- Written | XYZ | Translator Audio | ABC | Packager Video | JKL | Infrastructure What do you think? greetings yanstadel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Note the existing effort at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews Rahul From contactame at josegarrido.net Wed Mar 25 14:40:00 2009 From: contactame at josegarrido.net (jose garrido) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:40:00 -0400 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> Message-ID: <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/24 Steven Moix : > Hello all, > > I just created > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is > the news I want to spread via the NDN (News Distribution Network) when the > beta will be released. This is a point we should talk about this evening > during the IRC meeting, but feel free to edit it meanwhile. > > Thanks > > Steven > Hi the announce say Fedora Beta release but in the page of download i can only download a Alpha :S that's ok or is an error? -- atte. Jos? Dami?n Garrido From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 25 14:56:12 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:56:12 +0200 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CA460C.2070508@nicubunu.ro> jose garrido wrote: > > the announce say Fedora Beta release but in the page of download i can > only download a Alpha :S > that's ok or is an error? The Beta was not released yet: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule That wiki page is not for the large public, is for internal use in preparation for the release. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From contactame at josegarrido.net Wed Mar 25 15:11:09 2009 From: contactame at josegarrido.net (jose garrido) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:11:09 -0400 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <49CA460C.2070508@nicubunu.ro> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> <49CA460C.2070508@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <944fe2b0903250811k7f2d582cld46e3a2b2f667b21@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/25 Nicu Buculei : > jose garrido wrote: >> >> the announce say Fedora Beta release but in the page of download i can >> only download a Alpha :S >> that's ok or is an error? > > The Beta was not released yet: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule > > That wiki page is not for the large public, is for internal use in > preparation for the release. > Ok, thanks Nicu -- atte. Jos? Dami?n Garrido From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Mar 25 15:46:41 2009 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:46:41 +0100 Subject: Face of Fedora In-Reply-To: <49CA2953.8050408@googlemail.com> References: <49CA2953.8050408@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <49CA51E1.9050000@gmx.de> Hy, > > Do we call the whole campaign (written & audio & video interveiws) > Face of Fedora? I think faces of fedore (plural) sounds better ;-) mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org From jaa at redhat.com Wed Mar 25 18:52:11 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:52:11 -0400 Subject: Face of Fedora In-Reply-To: <49CA2953.8050408@googlemail.com> References: <49CA2953.8050408@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <49CA7D5B.80201@redhat.com> I set up a wiki space for this a while back. I just went in and edited it, someone added some stuff and I had to remove the word video, since its more than that. Yannik, you can have some fun here, and anyone else feel free to add to it... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Face_of_Fedora JAck Yannik Stadelmaier wrote: > Ok, so as we talked yesterday at the meeting, i help to run this project. > > Do we call the whole campaign (written & audio & video interveiws) > Face of Fedora? > I think this would be the best idea. So then everyone has a place to > go when he searches stuff of the project. > > So maybe we ca split it up like this structure: > > Face of Fedora > |-- Written Interveiws > |-- Audio Interviews > |-- Video Interviews > |-- Proposals for interview-partners > > For the proposals we can use a table like this: > > Media | Name | Contribution > ---------------------------------------- > Written | XYZ | Translator > Audio | ABC | Packager > Video | JKL | Infrastructure > > > What do you think? > > greetings > yanstadel > From mail at marcus-moeller.de Wed Mar 25 18:57:47 2009 From: mail at marcus-moeller.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:57:47 +0100 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Good Evening, >> I just created >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is I am not really sure, but should'nt it be called announcement instead of announcment? Best Regards Marcus From cmpahar at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 19:09:11 2009 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:09:11 +0200 Subject: Fedora-marketing-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: References: <20090324160027.0E925619A2A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Rohan Dalvi wrote: > All those who are from India and are related with this project.Please mail > me back. I want to know the status of the project meetings that are taking > place in Mumbai. I'm having a technical festival in my college and i need > some fresh ideas regarding how can Fedora be possible projected in a more > convincing way to the audience. Let me know if any of you have got ideas > regarding the same. > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > Please dont reply to Digests, just start a new thread. It's better and more clear. THanks you -- Christos Bacharakis christos at bacharakis.com http://bacharakis.com GPG Key: 499F5C33 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Mar 25 19:14:32 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:14:32 +0100 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1238008472.9448.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:57 +0100, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Good Evening, > > >> I just created > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is > > I am not really sure, but should'nt it be called announcement instead > of announcment? Typo, but the page isn't valid anyways, use the one linked by Paul Steven From mail at marcus-moeller.de Wed Mar 25 20:01:49 2009 From: mail at marcus-moeller.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:01:49 +0100 Subject: desktop relevance Message-ID: Good Evening, I was a bit disappointed to read the interview with Jim Whitehurst on InfoWorld where he talked about (Red Hat's) Linux desktop's relevance. On the one hand I agree with him that desktops will move more and more to hosted applications or virtual frameworks. But besides that Red Hat already offers a gread desktop product with a large userbase: Fedora. Also web based components will be more and more integrated into traditional desktop products. Please remember that there are still a lot of people out there using old versions of Windows, too. These also want to take part in the online future. So there will be backports and browser plugins. And note: Fedora does offer all of that great features, today. But as InfoWorld is a traditionally business-oriented netmag the focus was on 'making money with Linux desktops' I can somewhat understand his position. You can earn more money with services and solutions. I am just disappointed that it has not been clearly stated that the best way to keep up on that road is to use free components and to improve the (free) Linux desktop experience. Best Regards Marcus From kam at kamsalisbury.com Wed Mar 25 21:24:00 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:24:00 -0400 Subject: desktop relevance Message-ID: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> -----Original Message----- From: Marcus Moeller Subj: desktop relevance Date: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:02 pm Size: 1K To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Good Evening, I was a bit disappointed to read the interview with Jim Whitehurst on InfoWorld where he talked about (Red Hat's) Linux desktop's relevance. On the one hand I agree with him that desktops will move more and more to hosted applications or virtual frameworks. But besides that Red Hat already offers a gread desktop product with a large userbase: Fedora. Also web based components will be more and more integrated into traditional desktop products. Please remember that there are still a lot of people out there using old versions of Windows, too. These also want to take part in the online future. So there will be backports and browser plugins. And note: Fedora does offer all of that great features, today. But as InfoWorld is a traditionally business-oriented netmag the focus was on 'making money with Linux desktops' I can somewhat understand his position. You can earn more money with services and solutions. I am just disappointed that it has not been clearly stated that the best way to keep up on that road is to use free components and to improve the (free) Linux desktop experience. Best Regards Marcus -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list Hi Marcus, I am confused. It reads like your saying Fedora "is" Redhat. I thought it was a seperate distribution much like CentOS is seperate. -- Kam http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E From yanstadel at googlemail.com Wed Mar 25 21:41:26 2009 From: yanstadel at googlemail.com (Yannik Stadelmaier) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:41:26 +0100 Subject: Face of Fedora In-Reply-To: <49CA7D5B.80201@redhat.com> References: <49CA2953.8050408@googlemail.com> <49CA7D5B.80201@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49CAA506.3060909@googlemail.com> Few news to the project. First i moved the page from "Face of Fedora" to "Faces of Fedora". Plural sound much better. Have a look here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Faces_of_Fedora Then i added the proposal page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Faces_of_Fedora/Proposals And i wrote something to Vision/Concept on the "Faces of Fedora" page. Greetings, Yannik -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 21:42:57 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:42:57 +0100 Subject: Fedora bundles Cloud Computing solutions ? Message-ID: <50baabb30903251442j2c34ed75w4e1f0bdb97b0205d@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, I was asked several times this week whether Fedora provides any kind of Cloud Computing solutions. Everyone around me is just talking about SaaS and Cloud Computing. I'm not familiar with all types of web based solutions fedora rpms provide. So if anyone thinks he/she knows something please do respond and let me know. Currently all I can talk is about our Virtualisation solutions. Is there an updated flyer / wikipage for this ? FYI: a nice paper about Cloud Computing http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2009/EECS-2009-28.pdf thanks Chitlesh From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 25 23:16:40 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:46:40 +0530 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49CABB58.9030004@fedoraproject.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: . I > am just disappointed that it has not been clearly stated that the best > way to keep up on that road is to use free components and to improve > the (free) Linux desktop experience. Note: "The reason I say that is, I don't understand why consumers should pay for Linux, Linux is free. The average consumer at home, people have gotten use used to the blue screen of death with Windows, right? If you're not running something that's mission critical, why should you pay for it, go download Fedora" http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Q-A-Red-Hat-CEO-Jim-Whitehurst/0,139023769,339292691,00.htm Also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_contributions#GNOME_and_the_Free_Desktop Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 25 23:24:03 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:54:03 +0530 Subject: Fedora bundles Cloud Computing solutions ? In-Reply-To: <50baabb30903251442j2c34ed75w4e1f0bdb97b0205d@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30903251442j2c34ed75w4e1f0bdb97b0205d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CABD13.7040603@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > > I was asked several times this week whether Fedora provides any kind > of Cloud Computing solutions. Everyone around me is just talking about > SaaS and Cloud Computing. I'm not familiar with all types of web based > solutions fedora rpms provide. So if anyone thinks he/she knows > something please do respond and let me know. > > Currently all I can talk is about our Virtualisation solutions. Is > there an updated flyer / wikipage for this ? Haven't seen much but if you are interested, you could look at packaging up http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/ Rahul From mail at marcus-moeller.de Thu Mar 26 10:13:22 2009 From: mail at marcus-moeller.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:13:22 +0100 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: <49CABB58.9030004@fedoraproject.org> References: <49CABB58.9030004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Dear Rahul, > . I >> am just disappointed that it has not been clearly stated that the best >> way to keep up on that road is to use free components and to improve >> the (free) Linux desktop experience. > > Note: > > "The reason I say that is, I don't understand why consumers should pay > for Linux, Linux is free. The average consumer at home, people have > gotten use used to the blue screen of death with Windows, right? If > you're not running something that's mission critical, why should you pay > for it, go download Fedora" > > http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Q-A-Red-Hat-CEO-Jim-Whitehurst/0,139023769,339292691,00.htm Thanks, that makes things a bit clearer ;() Best Regards Marcus From mail at marcus-moeller.de Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2009 From: mail at marcus-moeller.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:14:46 +0100 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> References: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dear Kam, > Hi Marcus, I am confused. > > It reads like your saying Fedora "is" Redhat. I thought it was a seperate distribution much like CentOS is seperate. As Fedora is a Red Hat product it's part of Red Hat's portfolio. Maybe not the business one but the general. Best Regards Marcus From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 26 10:36:53 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:36:53 +0100 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: References: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <200903261136.56160.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag 26 M?rz 2009 11:14:46 schrieb Marcus Moeller: > As Fedora is a Red Hat product it's part of Red Hat's portfolio. Maybe > not the business one but the general. This is a risky statement! Explore the Wiki and the list-archives about co- branding etc. I think we have put so much effort to be accepted as Community in the past years, that it would be a shame to ruin that with such a misstatement! If you want to pay for our booth next time - because that is not RedHats bussines - keep going :) CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 26 11:03:32 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:33:32 +0530 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: References: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <49CB6104.8020404@fedoraproject.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Kam, > >> Hi Marcus, I am confused. >> >> It reads like your saying Fedora "is" Redhat. I thought it was a seperate distribution much like CentOS is seperate. > > As Fedora is a Red Hat product it's part of Red Hat's portfolio. Maybe > not the business one but the general. Red Hat does not consider Fedora as a Red Hat product. It is a sponsored community project that Red Hat participates in. That is one of the primary differences between the original Red Hat Linux and Fedora. You don't see Fedora in http://www.redhat.com/products/ You can see it here instead http://www.redhat.com/developers/ Rahul From mip1983 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 26 11:53:03 2009 From: mip1983 at yahoo.com (mir ip) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora bundles Cloud Computing solutions ? Message-ID: <115507.15731.qm@web36305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I found one blog about cloud computing,please let me know about your opinions. http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/03/18/linux-and-open-source-no-puff-in-the-clouds/ Thanking you, Mirlan Ipasov --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: From: Chitlesh GOORAH Subject: Fedora bundles Cloud Computing solutions ? To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 2:42 PM Hello there, I was asked several times this week whether Fedora provides any kind of Cloud Computing solutions. Everyone around me is just talking about SaaS and Cloud Computing. I'm not familiar with all types of web based solutions fedora rpms provide. So if anyone thinks he/she knows something please do respond and let me know. Currently all I can talk is about our Virtualisation solutions. Is there an updated flyer / wikipage for this ? FYI: a nice paper about Cloud Computing http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2009/EECS-2009-28.pdf thanks Chitlesh -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at marcus-moeller.de Thu Mar 26 12:27:04 2009 From: mail at marcus-moeller.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:27:04 +0100 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: <200903261136.56160.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> <200903261136.56160.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Dear Joerg. > This is a risky statement! Explore the Wiki and the list-archives about co- > branding etc. > I think we have put so much effort to be accepted as Community in the past > years, that it would be a shame to ruin that with such a misstatement! > If you want to pay for our booth next time - because that is not RedHats > bussines - keep going :) Okay, I understand the differences, but there are still a lot of dependencies between the company and the project (e.g some kind of 'upstream' for their enterprise products). Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization' ? Best Regards Marcus From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 26 12:43:32 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:13:32 +0530 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: References: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> <200903261136.56160.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49CB7874.7060406@fedoraproject.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Joerg. > >> This is a risky statement! Explore the Wiki and the list-archives about co- >> branding etc. >> I think we have put so much effort to be accepted as Community in the past >> years, that it would be a shame to ruin that with such a misstatement! >> If you want to pay for our booth next time - because that is not RedHats >> bussines - keep going :) > > Okay, I understand the differences, but there are still a lot of > dependencies between the company and the project (e.g some kind of > 'upstream' for their enterprise products). > > Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3 > nonprofit organization' ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundation Rahul From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 26 13:32:50 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:32:50 +0100 Subject: desktop relevance In-Reply-To: References: <49caa138.c6c1f10a.6e88.7639@mx.google.com> <200903261136.56160.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200903261432.53314.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag 26 M?rz 2009 13:27:04 schrieb Marcus Moeller: > Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3 > nonprofit organization' ? Fedora is driven the Community, enabled by the steering committees and the fedora board. The Fedora Foundation NPO 501(c)3 does not exist right now, as you can read in the wiki - Rahul has sent you the link. There are regional Fedora related NPO's as example Fedora EMEA e.V. with non- profit Status in Germany/Europe, who is working as a ressource bridge to enable us to scale the budget and make it transparent. The work is done by the community and the decissions are made by the community. CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jaa at redhat.com Thu Mar 26 15:44:40 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:44:40 -0400 Subject: in-depth look at F11 features In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49CBA2E8.8030807@redhat.com> Hey Guys, I finished the print part of the KMS feature and I picked up another one, the virt console improvements. Someone should pick up the volume control one, its fairly easy. Anyway want to try? Jack Max Spevack wrote: > Hi list, > > Please take a look at this page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features > > The purpose of this page is to take an in-depth look at particular > features in the Fedora 11 release. The page offers several > suggestions of how that might be done. > > The F11 marketing schedule has us working on these between now and > late-April, in preparation for the F11 Preview Release. > > We're looking for people to take ownership of particular features on > the list, and drive it to completion, working with the Marketing team, > but having a single owner accountable for the end result. > > Please take a look, sign up if you are interested, and start coming to > the weekly Marketing meetings where we will discuss. > > Thanks, > Max > From stickster at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 16:05:57 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:05:57 -0400 Subject: F11 Beta release annoucment for NDN RFC In-Reply-To: <1238008472.9448.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <507b7cf773c1682bb298b909cb2779f0@mail.axianet.ch> <944fe2b0903250740t7fb02c0au7f222633b7cc765a@mail.gmail.com> <1238008472.9448.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090326160557.GK10723@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:14:32PM +0100, Steven Moix wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:57 +0100, Marcus Moeller wrote: > > Good Evening, > > > > >> I just created > > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_beta_release_announcment which is > > > > I am not really sure, but should'nt it be called announcement instead > > of announcment? > > Typo, but the page isn't valid anyways, use the one linked by Paul That page is here, for those who missed it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Beta_Announcement The Docs team worked on this last night, as announced for their meeting, and made many changes. 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Message-ID: <49CC3197.2060703@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://subbisays.blogspot.com/2009/03/ubuntu-904-vs-fedora-11-lot-can-change.html "But considering the differences - Fedora 11 seems to be a full 6 months ahead of Ubuntu. Most of the features included in Fedora 11 now (gnome-media, faster boot, KMS, Plymouth, Firefox 3.1, Thunderbird 3, OpenOffice 3.1, etc) are planned only in Ubuntu 9.10. Ubuntu sure has some catching up to do. When Ubuntu 9.10 releases, I can't even begin to imagine how far ahead Fedora 12 will be!" Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 30 04:59:46 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:29:46 +0530 Subject: Testing Out The Nouveau Driver On Fedora 11 Message-ID: <49D051C2.5000209@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE3OA "With the forthcoming release of Fedora 11, Red Hat has made the bold (but wise) decision of replacing xf86-video-nv as the default open-source NVIDIA driver with the Nouveau driver instead." "Besides a clean, beautiful boot experience with Plymouth when using kernel mode-setting, VT switching is dramatically faster and runs at the same resolution as the running X Server. " "Kudos to all of the Nouveau developers and to Red Hat for taking this stand in enabling it by default. Hopefully we will see other Linux desktop distributions make the switch from xf86-video-nv to Nouveau." Rahul From shakthimaan at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 03:46:24 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:16:24 +0530 Subject: Fedora workshop, GEC, Barton Hill, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala, India Message-ID: Hi, I would like to thank Prof. Ranjith Kumar, Department of Mechanical Engineering, Government Engineering College (GEC), Barton Hill, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala, India for coordinating with me for the past one month for the National Seminar event on Embedded Design with GNU/Linux that was held on Saturday, March 21, 2009: http://fsc.gecbh.ac.in/ I would also like to thank the Directorate of Technical Education, and Kerala State Council for Science, Technology, and Environment for organizing the event. I discussed basic concepts of embedded systems, and gave a demo of gEDA tools suite (gschem, pcb, qucs, iverilog, gtkwave) on Fedora 10. Some photos taken during the visit are available at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album54 Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From hype59 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 07:12:14 2009 From: hype59 at gmail.com (Hlompho Mota) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:12:14 +0200 Subject: Distribution. Message-ID: <7e9ad95b0903310012g77b2c321pfe3b9071ca8eace@mail.gmail.com> Time's are cahnging and the trend in the use of computers is also changing. Though with this in mind, I believe that the project has to ride along the waves of change. The Idea behind this is that I have been an advocate of Fedora Before I even joined the project. Though now I am I hope 2 become a positive flow of energy into the project. I whould like to establish what would be a home for not only Linux, but a home for Fedora in Lesotho. 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If you have a blog, you might want to include it in Planet Fedora and put in your blog as well. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet/Join Rahul From svetoslav.chukov at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 13:12:45 2009 From: svetoslav.chukov at gmail.com (Svetoslav Chukov) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:12:45 +0300 Subject: Public remote desktop server. Message-ID: Hello, I am big fan of Fedora. I tried to help Fedora several times before but my attempts were not very successful. This time, I have an idea how to contribute in a different way. I have prepared a remote desktop server with additional features available for all users interested in try Fedora and GNU/Linux. Also, I wrote a client application capable to connect to this server. Please, have a look at: http://spreadfedora.org/sf/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=59 This is a remote desktop server running Fedora 10 and GNOME. 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See you all there, Jack From rafaelgomes at projetofedora.org Tue Mar 31 15:02:55 2009 From: rafaelgomes at projetofedora.org (Rafael Gomes) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:02:55 -0300 Subject: F11 Announcement Message-ID: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> Hi Guys, I am from Brazil and I am thinking about an improvement to our Announcement of new version. What do all you thing if we separate the new features for groups of interest? Same as the Announcement of Gnome. Take a look: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/index.html.en#rnusers IMO It is better than we have now. PS: Sorry for my bad english, I am learning yet. Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI Embaixador Fedora LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772 Fedora Talk : 5103520 III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da Bahia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This means 2.30AM in India :( Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From steven.moix at axianet.ch Tue Mar 31 16:37:58 2009 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:37:58 +0200 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, Are you aware of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network, which is used for the first time today? Steven On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:02 -0300, Rafael Gomes wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am from Brazil and I am thinking about an improvement to our > Announcement of new version. > > What do all you thing if we separate the new features for groups of > interest? Same as the Announcement of Gnome. Take a look: > > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/index.html.en#rnusers > > IMO It is better than we have now. > > PS: Sorry for my bad english, I am learning yet. > > Rafael Gomes > Consultor em TI > Embaixador Fedora > LPIC-1 > (71) 8146-5772 > Fedora Talk : 5103520 > > III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software > Livre da Bahia > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Tue Mar 31 17:21:48 2009 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:21:48 -0300 Subject: RES: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <000001c9b225$2d79a250$886ce6f0$@com.br> Rafael, This is an official announcement, not a draft, please stick with this text. The distribution should be done by NDN (News Distribution Network), and spread in our local list already set up. Read the link bellow to understand what's going on and to know our list. My 0,02 cents, Rodrigo Menezes -----Mensagem original----- De: fedora-marketing-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-marketing-list-bounces at redhat.com] Em nome de Steven Moix Enviada em: ter?a-feira, 31 de mar?o de 2009 13:38 Para: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Assunto: Re: F11 Announcement Hello, Are you aware of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network, which is used for the first time today? Steven On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:02 -0300, Rafael Gomes wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am from Brazil and I am thinking about an improvement to our > Announcement of new version. > > What do all you thing if we separate the new features for groups of > interest? Same as the Announcement of Gnome. Take a look: > > http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/index.html.en#rnusers > > IMO It is better than we have now. > > PS: Sorry for my bad english, I am learning yet. > > Rafael Gomes > Consultor em TI > Embaixador Fedora > LPIC-1 > (71) 8146-5772 > Fedora Talk : 5103520 > > III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software > Livre da Bahia > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor op??o para voc?! Experimente j? e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 31 17:43:33 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Steven Moix wrote: > Are you aware of > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network, > which is used for the first time today? Have we seen any success stories from this yet? --Max From tiago at tvieira.com Tue Mar 31 17:49:42 2009 From: tiago at tvieira.com (Tiago Vieira) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:49:42 +0100 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090331174942.GC10373@obelix.localdomain> On (31/03/09 19:43), Max Spevack wrote: > > Have we seen any success stories from this yet? > Not yet. I sent to lots of them. 100% of them need an approval before it goes live. I have some contacts with national circulation magazines in Brazil. I hope they will help us as well. :) As soon as I see something from Brazil, I get in touch. But, what about other countries? -- Tiago (r0xc0rp) Vieira tiagovieira at fedoraproject.org tel:+44-7595223968 Fedora Talk: 5125164 / E9CE CC25 0009 A08D F79E B660 08DA EAF5 47EA 1F16 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 31 17:59:44 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:59:44 -0400 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> I have contacted my list of press people. Its very early, I'm sure many of them will have something out today or tomorrow about this. Jack Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Steven Moix wrote: > >> Are you aware of >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network, >> which is used for the first time today? > > Have we seen any success stories from this yet? > > --Max > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 31 18:24:01 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > I have contacted my list of press people. Its very early, I'm sure > many of them will have something out today or tomorrow about this. Better question then: are people actively looking for these sorts of stories, and where will we aggregate them? --Max From jaa at redhat.com Tue Mar 31 19:22:39 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:22:39 -0400 Subject: F11 Announcement In-Reply-To: References: <7256ccd50903310802h14632576yda3ace3f8a3af274@mail.gmail.com> <1238517478.3109.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49D25A10.3050403@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49D26D7F.9070507@redhat.com> I'm following on google news, set up a google alert and following on tweetdeck. Jack Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> I have contacted my list of press people. Its very early, I'm sure >> many of them will have something out today or tomorrow about this. > > Better question then: are people actively looking for these sorts of > stories, and where will we aggregate them? > > --Max > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 31 22:16:28 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:16:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: 2009-03-31 meeting log Message-ID: http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-03-31-marketing.html